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So what did youtube exaclty block? did they Block hour methods or did they block every possbile way of uploading HQ?
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Originally Posted by frifox
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Originally Posted by venomite
All FLV files get reencoded to horrible quality. [/b] -
i tried uploading an FLV file with FIG, and guess what? it said Failed file to small
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well I worried this would happen, that YT would simply encode all uploads, but at least the ones I've uploaded remain flv HQ. The thing now is to hope they don't re-encode our already uploaded flv's. One thing to do is make sure you don't get copyright infringement warnings. After 3 copyright claims they closed my old account. (just clips from NBC tv)
And padding to 10:59 for &fmt=18 playback still boosts the bit rate playback? -
Originally Posted by mikejf
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=YlUq1NThtxc&fmt=18
OR
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwidrwyX4lg&fmt=18
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video specifications which is seen on youtube
HQ(&fmt=18):
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID : mp42
File size : 21.1 MiB
Duration : 10mn 0s
Overall bit rate : 294 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2008-07-27 17:04:43
Tagged date : UTC 2008-07-27 17:04:43
Video
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Baseline@L2.1
Format settings, CABAC : No
Format settings, ReFrames : 1 frame
Codec ID : avc1
Duration : 9mn 59s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 272 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 5121 Kbps!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YES :P
Width : 480 pixels
Height : 360 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4/3
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.063
Stream size : 19.4 MiB (92%)
Title : (C) 2007 Google Inc. v06.24.2007.
Encoded date : UTC 2008-07-27 17:04:43
Tagged date : UTC 2008-07-27 17:04:44
Audio
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format version : Version 4
Format profile : LC
Format settings, SBR : No
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 10mn 0s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 17.7 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 248 Kbps!!!!!!!!!!!
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : L R
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits
Stream size : 1.27 MiB (6%)
Title : (C) 2007 Google Inc. v06.24.2007.
Encoded date : UTC 2008-07-27 17:04:43
Tagged date : UTC 2008-07-27 17:04:44 -
Originally Posted by falcionxx
thanks, those trailers look very good- what format/specs did you upload them in? -
Originally Posted by mikejf
I upload:
X264
480x360
23,967 FPS
BITRATE FULL VBR (Auto Disortion Quantization)(2-pass) -
I agree with falcion. From my experience, adding black frames to the end of a normally uploaded file will have no effect. I tested two 1:24 clips, one unpadded, one padded to 11:00, both encoded in x264-vfw single pass lossless. Nothing different.
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Originally Posted by TheGoldStar
Sorenson Squeeze 5
Nero Recode 3 -
from my trying, adding black frames stills can improve quality, both in normal quality mode and in &fmt=18 mode.
especially in normal mode, less mosaic than no padding one.
but I have a question, can we use the youtube trick on other website?
I try this on dailymotion, but get re-encoded. -
Isn't dailymotion high def anyways? I don't think you need to add any padding/tricks..
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As many of us have noticed by now, YouTube has been busy tweaking it's compression techniques lately as they roll out "standard" and "high quality" versions of video uploads. As most who follow this thread know, YouTube now recommends uploading files in MP4 format using the larger VGA video size. These "improvements" have made lots of trouble for content producers. Proven tools and tutorials that were "standard operating procedure" for quality results have been rendered obsolete. There is evidence of this in blog posts all over the web.
Over the last few days, I have been trying to find a suitable (but simple) workaround. And I think I've discovered one. Be warned -- this fix may be temporary if YouTube continues to "enhance" its compression techniques. But as of 04-AUG-2008, the process works just fine for me -- and it doesn't require money or much effort.
My commercial software has become virtually useless at the final stage of production just before upload. But I found a freeware tool called WinFF -- see http://www.winff.org -- that does the trick. And it's fairly straightforward to use.
As YouTube now suggests, you want to convert your high quality video to MP4. And this is where WinFF shines. First, open your source video in WinFF and select 'Options' to adjust the conversion settings as follows:
Convert to: MP4 > H.264 in MP4(4:3)
Video Bitrate: 2000
Frame Rate: 30
Video Size: 640x480
Aspect Ratio: 4:3
Audio Bitrate: 128
Sample Rate: 44100
AC: 1
2 Pass: selected
Deinterlace: selected
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SIDE NOTE: If you create videos often, you may take the OPTIONAL step to make a "Preset" in WinFF. If you only occasionally create YouTube videos, there is no need. The XML params you would use for a "YouTube preset" are-r 30.00 -vcodec libx264 -s 640x480 -aspect 4:3 -b 2000k -acodec libfaac -ab 128k -ar 44100 -ac 1 -deinterlace -- and yes, you will still want to check the 2 pass option before conversion.
ALSO NOTE: Audio enthusiasts are sure to point out that YouTube recommends MP3 as the preferred audio encoding method for video uploads. But it seems that using MP3 audio in an MP4 video returns a runtime error in Quicktime. And I just don't feel like installing yet ANOTHER media player. So the audio encoding method I use is AAC, which is the default for this conversion process and seems to work just fine. So no codec adjustments are necessary.
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Now with these settings, convert the file. The resulting MP4 file will be just under 300 Kb for every second in length. If your video exceeds 5 minutes in length, the output will be larger than YouTube's 100 MB file size limit. Don't panic. There's now an easy way around this. Just use the YouTube multifile upload tool at http://www.youtube.com/my_videos_multiupload to lift the cap to 1 GB per file.
If you pass your source videos through WinFF with these settings, the MP4 file that is produced will look great in YouTube's "high quality" mode, and still very good in "standard" mode.
Hope this helps,
Bill M
http://www.sunfitters.com -
ty for this, i gotta try this one day
Originally Posted by billmi -
Originally Posted by billmi
Also, setting the framerate at 30 and deinterlacing is only called for if, 1) the source framerate is 30fps and, 2) it's interlaced and requires deinterlacing. If neither of those 2 preconditions are met, you're only degrading your video by using those settings. In my own case, with 140 videos uploaded none were 30fps and none required deinterlacing. Maybe you're talking about home movies or something similar. -
Originally Posted by manono
"We specifically recommend the MPEG4 (Divx, Xvid) format at 640x480 resolution with MP3 audio. Resizing your video to these specifications before uploading will help your clips look better on YouTube."
Originally Posted by manono -
We specifically recommend the MPEG4 (Divx, Xvid) format at 640x480 resolution with MP3 audio. Resizing your video to these specifications before uploading will help your clips look better on YouTube."
I just tested a video upload at 24 fps. Once YouTube was done with its compression, the only viewing option provided was "Standard Quality."
YouTube automatically generates two videos
So what worked for 140 uploads in the past may no longer produce optimum results. -
Why do you button with a choice of high quality can not simply insert a film by adding an empty cage and typing in the URL bar &fmt=18 each film on youtube has its equivalent of stereo Now, each video is put to 2 times that of the X264 in just 2-pass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb22sOt4E_g&fmt=18
input video (UPLOADED TO YOUTUBE):
(MeGUI)
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom
File size : 29.3 MiB
Duration : 10mn 55s
Overall bit rate : 375 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2008-08-03 19:18:36
Tagged date : UTC 2008-08-03 19:18:36
Video
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L2.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Duration : 10mn 54s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 366 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 4965 Kbps
Width : 480 pixels
Height : 360 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4/3
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.088
Stream size : 28.5 MiB (97%)
Writing library : x264 core 60 r928M 4816918
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=1 / deblock=1:-2:-1 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=5 / psy_rd=0.000000 / brdo=0 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=8 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=1 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=16 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / bime=0 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / rc=2pass / bitrate=366 / ratetol=1.0 / rceq='blurCplx^(1-qComp)' / qcomp=1.00 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=2:1.00
Encoded date : UTC 2008-08-03 19:15:04
Tagged date : UTC 2008-08-03 19:18:37
Audio
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format version : Version 4
Format profile : LC
Format settings, SBR : Yes
Format settings, PS : Yes
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 10mn 55s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 7976 bps
Maximum bit rate : 29.0 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits
Stream size : 638 KiB (2%)
Encoded date : UTC 2008-08-03 19:18:37
Tagged date : UTC 2008-08-03 19:18:37
Youtube HQ Reencode (&fmt=18) :
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID : mp42
File size : 24.0 MiB
Duration : 10mn 55s
Overall bit rate : 307 Kbps
Encoded date : UTC 2008-08-04 06:33:18
Tagged date : UTC 2008-08-04 06:33:18
Video
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Baseline@L2.1
Format settings, CABAC : No
Format settings, ReFrames : 1 frame
Codec ID : avc1
Duration : 10mn 54s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 273 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 4187 Kbps
Width : 480 pixels
Height : 360 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4/3
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.066
Stream size : 21.3 MiB (89%)
Title : (C) 2007 Google Inc. v06.24.2007.
Encoded date : UTC 2008-08-04 06:33:18
Tagged date : UTC 2008-08-04 06:33:19
Audio
Format : AAC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec
Format version : Version 4
Format profile : LC
Format settings, SBR : No
Codec ID : 40
Duration : 10mn 55s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 30.0 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 206 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : L R
Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
Resolution : 16 bits
Stream size : 2.34 MiB (10%)
Title : (C) 2007 Google Inc. v06.24.2007.
Encoded date : UTC 2008-08-04 06:33:18
Tagged date : UTC 2008-08-04 06:33:19
So either youtube directs the average quality of the entire movie or the size of the output -
Originally Posted by manono
http://www.tech-faq.com/mp4.shtml
"MP4 is short for Moving Picture Expert Group-4. First published in 1998, MPEG-4 or MP4 was designed..."
You say that your videos are the &fmt=6 and &fmt=18 quality. Can you upload the video once and toggle between quality settings via the link at the bottom of the video?
Let me be clear. I'm not saying there aren't other workarounds. I'm only reporting what worked for me. -
Originally Posted by falcionxx
Also, I looked at MeGUI, and it doesn't meet my standards of "simplicity" for the masses. Who wants a process that requires multiple tools and an inch thick manual to make work? Like a car, I don't need to know how the engine works in order to drive. I just want to slide in a key and turn the thing on.
For me, WinFF takes far fewer steps, saves production time and gets the job done. -
Originally Posted by billmi
Let me be clear. I agree that other formats are accepted and can be converted. I'm only saying that nothing has changed as far as YouTube recommendations for the source video format (except the recommended resolution, because of the higher quality videos being offered now). I couldn't care less what you send them, or in what format. And maybe they do a decent job with them. I'm just saying that H.264/AAC MP4s are not what they recommend. And I also object to a couple of your recommended settings, where 30fps deinterlaced video will be completely wrong settings for the vast majority of videos. These bloggers you mentioned, I think either you misunderstood them or they're just wrong. Any links for one of these guys you care to share?
About the only thing that I've seen change is the horrible audio settings they've begun using which causes certain kinds of audio to give out with blasts of overly loud and distorted sound from time to time. If you upload music, perhaps you've heard for yourself the mess they're making of the audio these days. But there are workarounds for that now.
Can you upload the video once and toggle between quality settings via the link at the bottom of the video?
You say that your videos are the &fmt=6 and &fmt=18 quality.
Oh, and you exceeded YouTube's 10 minute limit... which is now being imposed on all new YouTubers (Director or not).
Who wants a process that requires multiple tools and an inch thick manual to make work? -
Originally Posted by manono
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Originally Posted by billmi
I don't know if you want to create XviD AVIs or MP4 videos, but you can easily create either. Open a file and set the output Format first, run down that main screen enabling what you want. If you want to specify 640x480, go into Video->Resolution/Aspect and set the resolution. Just look around and you'll figure it out, I think.
Baldrick wrote a guide (if you can call it that) for its use:
https://forum.videohelp.com/topic352374.html -
Originally Posted by manono
nah, i havent used Xvid4PSP mostly because MeGUI provided me with more than satisfactory results... i dont know whats under the hood so i cant really compare it to other encoders.
PS: for filtering i prefer VirtualDUB, frameserved by AviSynth
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