Youtube Upload, increase quality/control (HQ hack obsolete)

[frifox]

if thats true, then what you did was exactly what C243 is about... not new

[Surgee]

Hello guys,

(Just to so you know in advance , this is NOT request to tell me your secret.)

I am a machinima movie maker and I post on youtube only my and my own videos , not compilation of someone else work. Recently I've made a huge step forward and made a very advanced machinima "The Demise"(every single object in it except characters in few moments were drawn by me) that won many awards but most importantly, it won "Best Special Effects" award in Worldwide Invitational 2008 in Paris for Blizzard Entertainement (guys from Diablo and WoW if someone don't know). This movie makes only sense if its viewed in high enough resolution as it is a candy for the eye.
For four days, after I went throughout this thread I tried everything to make the movie in atleast 640x480 but I failed with every attempt. Even if I was able to make video HQ it was re-encoded after 2 minutes. This is where my request starts. Could any of you kind souls prepare the file for me and I would just upload a ready one? I dont ask you to tell me your secret, I totally understand the reason you dont wanna share it. If you could just prepare the file this first and last time I would be very greatful ! This movie means really much to me and fans of my works who keep on bugging me for new movies all the time . Ofcourse I will credit you for making it high res (unless you wanna keep low profile )

You can see the movie or download it here http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=81963
Best if you watch from Vimeo link (need to click HD button in corner when the movie will start playing ) . Here
http://www.youtube.com/user/Surgee is my youtube channel with just 2 videos but extremely popular ones (460 subscribers ) and ofcourse both are my work ( the whole animation stuff ).
How you guys come up with that stuff ? You rock !
If someone will be interested in "patching" my movie please PM me or E-MAIL. I'll be waiting whole day .

Cheers!

[cjwcorp]

lmao ok. i thought c243 was using HEX. O_o

[Spritemoney]

"FIG" what the heck is that?
(in russian FIG = "the middle finger", hahaha)

lol really, it's a .bat file program "c243"

[Assault]

Haha. I don't think Frifox would be happy with what FIG standed for if he doesn't already know. =P

[Spartacomp]

Hello guys,

(Just to so you know in advance , this is NOT request to tell me your secret.)

I am a machinima movie maker and I post on youtube only my and my own videos , not compilation of someone else work. Recently I've made a huge step forward and made a very advanced machinima "The Demise"(every single object in it except characters in few moments were drawn by me) that won many awards but most importantly, it won "Best Special Effects" award in Worldwide Invitational 2008 in Paris for Blizzard Entertainement (guys from Diablo and WoW if someone don't know). This movie makes only sense if its viewed in high enough resolution as it is a candy for the eye.
For four days, after I went throughout this thread I tried everything to make the movie in atleast 640x480 but I failed with every attempt. Even if I was able to make video HQ it was re-encoded after 2 minutes. This is where my request starts. Could any of you kind souls prepare the file for me and I would just upload a ready one? I dont ask you to tell me your secret, I totally understand the reason you dont wanna share it. If you could just prepare the file this first and last time I would be very greatful ! This movie means really much to me and fans of my works who keep on bugging me for new movies all the time . Ofcourse I will credit you for making it high res (unless you wanna keep low profile )

You can see the movie or download it here http://www.warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=81963
Best if you watch from Vimeo link (need to click HD button in corner when the movie will start playing ) . Here
http://www.youtube.com/user/Surgee is my youtube channel with just 2 videos but extremely popular ones (460 subscribers ) and ofcourse both are my work ( the whole animation stuff ).
How you guys come up with that stuff ? You rock !
If someone will be interested in "patching" my movie please PM me or E-MAIL. I'll be waiting whole day .

Cheers!

Hi Surgee,

I am going to try to help you out. Please PM me with regards to the details that are important to you.

[Surgee]

I didn't expected that I'll get so great and so fast help!.
"Assault" is already working on remaking the video for me.
Will see how it will work.

Thanks again everyone !

[Spritemoney]

FIG ain't my program, it's standed for, i cannot say it on here.
also FIG + FLV reader works.

[FreeOurTube]

kaourantin.net[/url]]# AAC SBR offers demonstrable advantages over plain MP3, think 5.1 channel surround sound f.ex. While the Flash Player does only support 2 channels output at this time, there is opportunity to go beyond that.

You have to wait until Flash Player 10 at least.

that article is from last year....

The Adobe developer blog entry above discusses Flash Player 9 Update 3 (version 9.0.115.0, codenamed Moviestar) in its close-to-final beta stage, which is identical to the latest final build (9.0.124.0), apart from security update in April 2008.

Adobe® Flash® technologies support the next-generation AAC audio codecs defined by the ISO/IEC 14496-3 (MPEG-4 part 3) standard, including Advanced Audio Coding (AAC) Main, AAC Low Complexity (LC), and High Efficiency AAC v2 Profile (HE-AAC v2, also known as HE-AAC+, eAAC, and aacPlus v2).

AAC Main adds perceptual noise shaping to the MPEG-2 version of AAC, improving quality at lower bitrates. AAC Main can handle up to five channels plus one subwoofer channel (5.1) in a single audio object. AAC LC is slightly less efficient than AAC Main and requires less CPU power to encode and decode. AAC LC is optimized for low-bitrate applications such as streaming. HE-AAC v2 is a superset of the AAC core codec that couples spectral band replication (SBR) and parametric stereo (PS) techniques to enhance frequency domain coding efficiency and improve the efficiency of low-bitrate stereo signals. HE-AAC v2 supports up to 48 audio channels and enables 5.1 and 7.1 surround sound experiences.

Source: Adobe

8)

Unfortunately, no matter how many channels AAC standards themselves support, Flash Player will downmix multichannel audio to stereo at its decoder.

Another Adobe developer (adobe.com, 28 January 2008):

What's the one thing you'd love to see in Adobe technologies in the future?
(...)
Additionally, the Flash Player's sound engine could also use an upgrade, as it has been several years since it was developed. For instance, having multichannel sound support would be great.

Content provider's post at adobe.com (18 May 2008)

[inohaw2speal]

i need a method >.<

[FoxLocked]

i need a method >.<

Then make one

[frifox]

ok everyone, here's a lil glitch i ran into.... i do H264/AAC FLV and then replace timestamp of the last tag to the desired time (to allow for bitrates higher than 350Kbps). (PS: 11:00 = "0A 10 00")

now, youtube's player sometimes shows the actual duration and sometimes shows the fake duration... this seem to happen quite unpredictably. i made many test vids, all using same technique. some showed real duration and some showed fake duration


EX: Shows Real Duration:
480x270 H264@600Kbps, 5:17 -> 11:00:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42qMZ53xyIQ

EX: Shows Fake Duration:
1024x576 H264@600Kbps, 5:23min -> 11:00:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3TMouePCf8


did anybody else ran into this while hexing timestamps to fake durations?

[FreeOurTube]

Few days back during uploading my latest and probably last HQ demos, I noticed a fast forward capability offered by audio tag forging. And it seems I'm not the only one: Spartacomp's uploads.

So what do you think zappa and frifox, is this pretty enough solution for you perfectionists (not that I'm short of one) regarding H.264/VP6?

[rajman]

Here's an example with a higher quality source video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74Mrz-eZIRY

What the...... Now thats impressive! How the hell did you do that?

Whats weird when I click on your Youtube page the video reads 10:59 but when I click on it, it reads 2:56?

Yes Frifox Ive seen it too, a few pages back I posted the above comment...because I was like when I first saw it, the video shows 10:59 but when played it shows the real duration! Kinda cool

[Mih]

Can somebody explain me how can i do this "C243" method? please?

[frifox]

ok everyone, here's a lil glitch i ran into.... i do H264/AAC FLV and then replace timestamp of the last tag to the desired time (to allow for bitrates higher than 350Kbps). (PS: 11:00 = "0A 10 00")

now, youtube's player sometimes shows the actual duration and sometimes shows the fake duration... this seem to happen quite unpredictably. i made many test vids, all using same technique. some showed real duration and some showed fake duration


EX: Shows Real Duration:
480x270 H264@600Kbps, 5:17 -> 11:00:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42qMZ53xyIQ

EX: Shows Fake Duration:
1024x576 H264@600Kbps, 5:23min -> 11:00:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3TMouePCf8


did anybody else ran into this while hexing timestamps to fake durations?

eek... ignore that. i should have researched before blabbering.

apparently youtube's player shows duration based on the last audio/video tag. by simply faking timestamp of the second-to-last audio tag will fake the duration BUT display proper duration when played in youtube's player

[Spritemoney]

Can somebody explain me how can i do this "C243" method? please?

sorry we can't.

[frifox]

Can somebody explain me how can i do this "C243" method? please?

sorry we can't.

no, we should, and we did... just read the last 10 pages or so of this topic

[zappa_engine]

I knew about the real duration timestamp modification as soon as Sparta released his first demo of it because 20 minutes after analyzing his files, I posted and noticed the odd thing was the last audio tag was 11 minutes, masked by a couple video tags.

That's when I knew I had to generated code to generate custom audio frames. Until then, my code only generated custom video frames. When that was done, I did a series of tests to experiment where placing the padded audio tag in relation to the thumbnail, rejector, main video would affect the duration. I'm currently under the conclusion that the flash player's duration is based on the last flv tag's duration, regardless of whether it's audio or video. (oh hmm I never tested a metadata tag!, anyways...)

The other bit is YouTube bitrate calculation is based on the last "legit" audio tag's timestamp it can read. Note: this means AAC audio tags aren't "legit" to YouTube. So creating a file to append an audio tag of padded timestamp followed by a video tag with true video duration is my current method of padding.

Anyhow I thought this was known since I posted the analysis soon after that post. It should be clearer now

[frifox]

The other bit is YouTube bitrate calculation is based on the last "legit" audio tag's timestamp it can read. Note: this means AAC audio tags aren't "legit" to YouTube.

AAC audio tag is legit... thats what i hex-timestamped here:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=yuJ5WT2gviI

i think youtube calculates bitrate by scanning all timestamps (repeat, ALL) and taking the biggest one as Duration. then simple math: "FileSizeInKB * 8 / DurationInSeconds"

[zappa_engine]

Actually yeah, that's pretty probable I don't know what I was thinking when I said that because that was my starter method with audio tags. Thumb/Rejector/Aspect/AudioPadded/Main

[Spritemoney]

Can somebody explain me how can i do this "C243" method? please?

sorry we can't.

no, we should, and we did... just read the last 10 pages or so of this topic

oh ok, we are allowed, i thought we were not, cuz we don't want the method to go away like vmutube

[rajman]

Has anyone got H264 working yet? I managed to upload one video a few days ago but the method used on that stopped working =( Ive seen a few users on Youtube using H264 and none are willing to help out

[inohaw2speal]

can someone teach me the High Quality method at all like in any way? i only know how to get the watch in high quality button pm me here or you can find the same username on youtube. i will be checking this thread daily.

[LiveInTrance]

I came across an artical that said you can generate an flv file easily to upload to youtube in HQ, the article is from this year.

http://cacan.blog385.com/index.php/2008/05/09/youtube-high-quality-hacks/

What is the "C243" method? please reply.

[inohaw2speal]

im trying to use zappa's flv reader but when i turn it on , it just dissppears , i upload the video, it aint HD!

[Mih]

i read the latest 10 pages and i am still with out a answer, but anyways thanx for the amazings jobs =), maybe i will still using w16 or Flv reader =).

[zappa_engine]

I'm having some trouble with H264 videos. In the past, I could download an untouched video I see, and re-upload it and it would produce the same results. Now my re-uploads are getting encoded. Anyone have some information on this?

[cjwcorp]

To get a video with 1024 x 576 duration, what must you do?
I've been using VMUTUBE to generate my FLV and combined it with the default file from C243.

I've been saving the video as 480x360. 20FPS. 1.0 Square.

Can someone give me the 1024x576 settings please?

[virtualgamesco]

^ You have to HEX edit the video/audio packet's duration, so you can upload a video over 350 kbps.

On the same note (and please pardon my asking this, I know it's extremely noobish), where can you find a video file's duration when HEX-altering it? I'd like to know for WMV, as well as FLV files.