Youtube Upload, increase quality/control (HQ hack obsolete)

[dzvero007]

What would you like me to explain more about ?

[zappa_engine]

Your version of the trailer looks very nice. Good job You have nice retouching skills.

[zappa_engine]

About FLV Reader.exe:
You could explain what errors you're getting, or your method in using the tool. What process did you take?

About comparing two video upload methods:
Sorry, I'm not trying to compare quality of each one. I'm only trying to provide an option for alternative. Were you able to upload my screen caps in high quality before?

[dzvero007]

Well, the trailer was to test I what quality could be obtained with some re-touching. I don't waste my time for uploading trailers.
The only video that I want to be in highest quality is this one:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=opkXHeue5oY&fmt=6 - I'm sure that you cannot obtain better quality by tricking/hacking.

It has the same re-touching, but the trailer looks better. That makes me very nervous


That's the following error I get:

[zappa_engine]

I'm sure I can't obtain better quality. I'm not an experience video user. But if I were, I'm sure I would obtain the same quality through initial processing, considering the videos uploaded aren't processed anymore. Okay, I really don't want to hear that one method creates better quality than another. It's the pre-processing that determines that.

There are advantages and disadvantages to both methods.

[zappa_engine]

Okay thanks for the information. I did a quick google search on that error and found this link:
http://www.developerfusion.co.uk/forums/p/31924/142806/

This problem occurs if the .NET framework isn't installed. I may have forgot to mention that .NET framework would be required and incorrectly assumed everyone would have it installed. If you would like, you can try installing the framework.

The redistributable package for .NET 2.0 is 22960 KB: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=0856EACB-4362-4B0D-8EDD-AAB15...displaylang=en

I hope that will help.

[acid_burn]

Hi everyone.

The videos which I have uploaded recently are quite high quality:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dWBf39MSIU8
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-UeWUd6ldBo

But for some reason my latest video is not high quality:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=lZ9ZZbEttyU

Why is this? I used exactly the same settings for all the video lately... youtube does NOT give that video the option to play in 'high quality' where as the rest do.
I also know it takes some time for the videos to get the 'watch in high quality' option, however it seems as if my latest video will never this option. It has been over 5 hours now.

[FreeOurTube]

VP6 demos ready, after days of slow manual work. I hope YT leaves them alone and untouched, now and in the future.

Gotta grab some sleep now. Bye.

[zappa_engine]

I'm not 100% certain on this and I'm just quoting what I've read from another source but are you certain your video meets these 3 specs to qualify for the "Watch in High Quality" option? Also, you may want to give it more time. YouTube can take quite some time sometimes. Okay, the 3 specs were:

1) Certain codecs: XviD, DivX, WMV, H.264, HuffYUV, more?
2) Greater than 600kbps bitrate video?
3) Greater than 480x360 resolution?

[dzvero007]

acid_burn you should wait for YouTube to convert the video and give the option "watch in high quality". Sometimes, it could be longer than 8 hours, as it happend for some of my vids.

EDIT: zippa_engine, do not be fooled, even if you spend a lot of time trying to get better quality and then bypass the system, you'll never obtain higher results than the last video I posted.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=opkXHeue5oY&fmt=6

[zappa_engine]

VP6 demos ready, after days of slow manual work. I hope YT leaves them alone and untouched, now and in the future.

Gotta grab some sleep now. Bye.

Nice work. I think you are the pioneer for uploading VP6 flash files to YouTube. I will be studying your videos!

[FoxLocked]

zappa it doesn't work...
I open the FLV Reader.exe and it open's and closes and i don't see a video_only.flv

[acid_burn]

Thanks for the responses. All my videos have been encoded exactly the same way. I guess I will jut have to wait longer, thanks.

[zappa_engine]

acid_burn you should wait for YouTube to convert the video and give the option "watch in high quality". Sometimes, it could be longer than 8 hours, as it happend for some of my vids.

EDIT: zippa_engine, do not be fooled, even if you spend a lot of time trying to get better quality and then bypass the system, you'll never obtain higher results than the last video I posted.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=opkXHeue5oY&fmt=6

Are you always looking for a fight? Give me a few minutes as I download this video and re-upload it, same quality. The only thing that will change will be the padding duration. The quality will be the same. The thumbnail might be different because I have not tested satisfactory on that yet. In the mean time, you haven't uploaded my screen cap video as it is with full quality, have you?

And please spell my alias correctly.

[dzvero007]

No, I'm not looking for fights relax...
As I already sait, "I want to proof that tricking the system is unnecessary, while you can obtain comparable (and why not better) quality by the easiest way."
Btw, I'll be happy if you beat that quality . Note that I'm not saying nothing bad for your "method", you just take it as a fight .

And also, you're compelled to delete this video after the results, unless you have my autorization to keep it .

[zappa_engine]

zappa it doesn't work...
I open the FLV Reader.exe and it open's and closes and i don't see a video_only.flv

Can you try running the program from a console window? It will display messages which could give useful information as to why it's not working.

But if I were to guess the issue, I would guess it's not finding a proper input file. Do you have a file in the same directory called video.flv ? Since you're running from a windows directory without the benefit of a prompt window, there's not an easy way to enter parameters into the program such as the input file, so it will default to trying to use video.flv and if it doesn't find it, you may not get a video_only.flv because it can't read in anything.

PS: You could create a batch file to set up parameters.

[zappa_engine]

No, I'm not looking for fights relax...
As I already sait, "I want to proof that tricking the system is unnecessary, while you can obtain comparable (and why not better) quality by the easiest way."
Btw, I'll be happy if you beat that quality . Note that I'm not saying nothing bad for your "method", you just take it as a fight .

Right, it seems you keep insisting you can provide more quality when the truth is, the quality obtainable is the same. It's the source video that determines the quality, not methods.

There's a reason I try to solve this issue. There are quality videos that aren't over 600kbps. Those won't get tagged as high quality by YouTube.

[dzvero007]

zappa_engine, you engage me to compare your trailer with mine
then you will see that the quality obtainable is not the same

[virtualgamesco]

Hey zappa_engine, do you need to pad the .flv file before using your tool?

[zappa_engine]

zappa_engine, you engage me to compare your trailer with mine
then you will see that the quality obtainable is not the same

Video link will be removed once dzvero007 confirms quality is same, or 24 hours passes, whichever comes first.
Here's your cloned video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXDWErO-qqo
The thumbnail even works!

[zappa_engine]

Hey zappa_engine, do you need to pad the .flv file before using your tool?

No, the tool decides if it needs to pad, and if it does, it auto-pads it.

[virtualgamesco]

Hey zappa_engine, do you need to pad the .flv file before using your tool?

No, the tool decides if it needs to pad, and if it does, it auto-pads it.

Great! Thanks.

[zappa_engine]

No problem. I hope it works for you :P No one's come out and said it works yet but I've heard of two problems ( I'm concerned!

[virtualgamesco]

No problem. I hope it works for you :P No one's come out and said it works yet but I've heard of two problems ( I'm concerned!

Well, as you've stated, this is pretty much build 0.2, right? Also, another question: I'm going to sound like a complete video n00b here, but can you use VMuTube to encode a .flv with 720p resolution, and upload it to YouTube with loseless quality?

[dark_guard]

Okay, for you dark_guard, and everyone else, I'll release my current works so far. It's a mess I'll say, but I'm not calling it final. Use at your own risk. Source code and binary.

http://www.zshare.net/download/1471870141e53cea/ (EDITTED: The .NET 2.0 Framework is required to run this)

"FLV Reader.exe" -i yourvideo.flv <-- this will produce video_only.flv to upload to YouTube
"FLV Reader.exe" -i yourvideo.flv -info > flvinfo.txt <-- same AND output extra flv tag info (megabyte text file)

It's going to be very verbose. If you have ffmpeg.exe in the same directory, it will make use of it to create a final frame for your video if it needs to do padding. Otherwise, I haven't tested it if it doesn't find ffmpeg. If the video is under 350kbps I haven't tested it. If after auto-padding the file, the duration is longer than 11 minutes, then it probably won't get through YouTube uploads. I haven't tested it. The final frame doesn't show sometimes. All in all, this is really just an alpha product. A tool customized to *MY* needs at the moment.

Sample videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxGtl9I1EHM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyIg4vzV-kw

Thanks Zappa, that was certainly a better response than I was expecting!

The tool works, but it's got some kinks. I uploaded a vid to youtube and the quality was downgraded, but the file size was the same. Also, the sound disappears from youtube after a while.

[zappa_engine]

It should work unless it needs padding that causes the file duration to go over 11 minutes due to that padding. At the moment I am using a very conservative pad that makes videos 335kbps, and not 350kbps so it is padding a little bit longer than needed.

By the way, in my opinion, the best FLV to use with this tool is an unmodified original one There will be no wasted bytes.

[zappa_engine]

The tool works, but it's got some kinks. I uploaded a vid to youtube and the quality was downgraded, but the file size was the same. Also, the sound disappears from youtube after a while.

I'm interested. Would you mind PM'ing me the link to the video in private so I can investigate?

EDITED: Okay the issue was actually what I mentioned in the post above this one. The program is padding files to 335kbps and it was causing the timestamp to a little bit more. Well he had a large file and that little bit more actually caused it to extend past 11 minutes, which YouTube will reject. Next release should raise the bitrate limit to 349kbps and fix this issue. In the meantime, if anyone has a compiler, they can open up the source and do a search for "335" and then change that to "349". I forgot the variable name. It's called max_bit_rate, or bitrate_limit, or something like that.

[Assault]

dzvero, the quality of the source is what matters. If you both have the same source you aren't going to be able to get better quality, only equal. Stop arguing that your quality is better, because #1, it isn't, and #2, it's making you look bad.

Zappa, that tool works great, thanks for the link and I'm looking forward to a full version in the future =p

[zappa_engine]

Zappa, that tool works great, thanks for the link and I'm looking forward to a full version in the future =p

Awesome, a success story! Now I can go take a break...

[dzvero007]

zappa_engine, the quality is exactly the same as if the video watched in high quality.
You just downloaded high quality version and uploaded it to YouTube. It do not get converted to LQ because of your method, but it is still the same quality. That's not fine for me.
Anyways, your method still good.