Youtube Upload, increase quality/control (HQ hack obsolete)

[bayme]

That's right, YT seems to be implementing a more strict FLV file check.
However, I've uploaded a < 350Kbps stereo FLV file and it worked.

Yes, but was it originally higher than 350 kbit/s? THAT's what is important here.

[reez]

Thanks reez

just passing on the knowledge i've learned here

to avoid any confusions as i remember videohelp had a "report piracy" section...the iron man.avi in the screenshot is the iron man tv spot .... just in case someone reports this....

hey ric are you still able to do the high quality hack?

[ricardouk]

yes, its still working, the last one i uploaded with a bitrate of 346k took about 30 seconds to appear online:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ev0HXPok8g

well if you're asking if i hexefy my uploads i don't, i dont do any "hacks", i just follow the bitrate limit, but ill try one later today

[duro]

I just uploaded a video and it got re-encoded. I used the 11 min hex hack and the file ended up 340 kbps, the file is 26.8 mb in size. I wonder if they've just blocked the 11 min limit?

I've been using mencoder for about 12 months and mainly just creating stereo music videos with just normal video quality in flv format. I hope these new hacks and the new HQ tutorials video on youtube haven't jeopardized the old stereo hack as well. It seems not with ricardouk newly uploaded video though, I'll try some tests later on.

45tripp, that tennis video I linked somehow has changed to standard quality. When I posted, that channels latest two videos were hi res quality and definitely 480x360 but now they're definitely not high quality and its the same url. It sounds odd or impossible but they were high quality for a few days, anyway no worries.

[mmmarie]

its nice to see that ricardouk still managed to do the HQ trick. btw, can i ask something on how to edit the program with 480x360? cuz i tried the 320x240 but it looked crappy. the video im trying to upload has a run lenght of 3:17. so how do you do some editing for higher resolution with under 350 kbps still????

[ricardouk]

mmmarie can you post a link to your source? or host it at rapidshare or similar?


Like i said before i dont hexefy the videos i upload, fortunally they look good, but they all have 320x240 resolution with the bitrate under 345k.

avisynth, automen and a good source video is all i use, after the conversion i use mediainfo to check if the bitrate is under 345k, some of the videos look bad because i didnt knew of the trick (350+flv), others i didnt have a good source to begin with.

i dont do anything else to the video, just uploaded another one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED-MYGiSdY8

[cinetech]

i dont do anything else to the video, just uploaded another one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED-MYGiSdY8

looks great.
btw, may i ask why you changed the aspect ratio?
it seems the original is 1.85:1.

[ricardouk]

just checked the original source and the aspect ratio is 2:35

[cinetech]

just checked the original source and the aspect ratio is 2:35

i guess you meant 2.35:1 which is for 35mm anamorphic
then again, will u encode the file using that ratio?
i love to see it.

[reez]

hey ric thanks for the avstodvd tutorial but i have a problem. i downloaded a file from stage6 and it's a divx file...not avi. when i browse for source file(using avstodvd) it doesnt show up as if it's not supported. but winff does that type of file with nor problem, is there a way around this?

[mmmarie]

hello ricardouk. here is the video i wanted to put on youtube in HQ

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=199XAOU3

[ricardouk]

Reez rename the file to avi, for example movie1.divx becomes movie1.avi, divx files are avi files, the divx extension is used for chapters, menus and subs because avi doesnt do it, renaming it works.

Cinetech i see what you mean, the scripts i make i use avstodvd and it makes them taking in consideration the final resolution is 720x576 .

i changed the resolution in the script to 320x240 so im guessing the AddBorders value should change aswell like from 44 in the example to something lower, but i dont know how to do it, what values i should add, ive been looking in PDA's conversion forums for the answer but i havent found it.

its not perfect my solution but at least i now have the 16:9 look on the videos i wasnt getting before

Maybe 45stripp could help us out

[ricardouk]

mmmarie im on a 512 net connection, its going to take a while to download it but ill see what i can do tonight

[ricardouk]

Here´s your video, 320x240 resolution and 338k bitrate:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=gwb5hve1Gvw

[kodaismahhussy]

So yeah, we have a problem. The duration length hack doesn't work anymore. Any other ideas? xD

[ricardouk]

yes, i can only remember one site that has no limits on video types and size uploading without reconverting them

http://blip.tv/

you can use heyspread.com to move your youtube HD(if they havent been converted by now) videos to blip.tv, its not free but its cheap, a few cents by each upload

http://heyspread.com/

dont know any other service that does it for free

[superzombie23]

stage6 is a good video site... pretty high quality.

[cinetech]

Cinetech i see what you mean, the scripts i make i use avstodvd and it makes them taking in consideration the final resolution is 720x576 .

I was thinking more on cropping the source to that aspect ratio 2.35:1,
and then try to letterbox to a 4:3, 320x240.
If you achieve that, it'll be easier to compress since it'll be more black,
from the bars.

Hopefully you can do it.

[mmmarie]

Here´s your video, 320x240 resolution and 338k bitrate:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=gwb5hve1Gvw

oh thank you. so you just used the same format you demostrated before right? thankies

[frifox]

if anybody wants to experiment... try playing around with OTHER filetypes and try to figure out if youtube reads duration/bitrate/etc metadata from the file's header (or from footer/middle or wherever it reads it from lol).

this way we might discover another hole that will allow us to fake the meta data (aka duration)

[hypnoticpimp]

Someone make a new tutorial on how to get high quality video to upload on youtube , without it re encoding again, looks like youtube fixed it

[hypnoticpimp]

ricardo. i opened up automen, but where do i load up the avs file at, can u show intstructions on how to load up your avs file to work with automen? so it can start converting

[ricardouk]

just "drag and drop" the file on Automen

[45tripp]

all good things come to an end.

i'll update the guide to indicate the hq hack no longer works.
uploading flv's is still useful as ricardo shows,
but eye popping quality has gone.

i changed the resolution in the script to 320x240 so im guessing the AddBorders value should change aswell like from 44 in the example to something lower,

strangely 44 is close, for the 2.35:1, but the method is all wrong.

for 4:3 just resize:
lanczos4resize(320,240)

for 16:9:
lanczos4resize(320,180).addborders(0,30,0,30)

for 2.35:1:
lanczos4resize(320,144).addborders(0, 48, 0, 48 )

45tripp, that tennis video I linked somehow has changed to standard quality.

sabotage!

gl,
tripp

[ricardouk]

Thanks 45stripp, just tried your values on differente sources ans playing it back on MPC
works, the aspect ratio is showed correctly.

Thanks

[ricardouk]

I was thinking more on cropping the source to that aspect ratio 2.35:1,
and then try to letterbox to a 4:3, 320x240.
If you achieve that, it'll be easier to compress since it'll be more black,
from the bars.

got it working now:

avs script for imitating 2.35.1 aspect ration on a 4:3 video:

DirectShowSource("C:\test\2_35_1_source.avi")
Lanczos4Resize(320,144)
AddBorders(0,48,0,48)

video on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f_uyXs1X30



avs script for imitating 1.78.1 aspect ration on a 4:3 video:

DirectShowSource("C:\test\1_78_1_source.avi")
Lanczos4Resize(320,180)
AddBorders(0,30,0,30)

video on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bNoIA4b8pU

[cinetech]

go it working now:
avs script for imitating 2.35.1 aspect ration on a 4:3 video:

DirectShowSource("C:\test\2_35_1_source.avi")
Lanczos4Resize(320,144)
AddBorders(0,48,0,48)

video on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5f_uyXs1X30

looking good!
although i don't get why you're using 25fps?
if your source is pal, you should use 12fps.
it'll still play well and smooth, while you gain
more kbps for encoding.

for my 30 fps source videos, i use 15fps for FLV <350kbps

[ricardouk]

yes, im trying to do this in "steps", first i want to get the aspect ratio problem sorted and then optimize the videos by changing the framerate.

doing it in small steps instead of doing it all at once

Thanks

Edit: Automen doesnt have a fps conversion option, ive asked Buzzqw if he could implement the feature in Automen, he listens the users of his programs, hopefully he will implement it, fingers crossed :

[45tripp]

yeah
it's a mystery to me how you managed the previous one.
288x130?
of course it would have been fine if you had added vertical padding to 216.

Edit: Automen doesnt have a fps conversion option,

you don't need it too.
add to the end of your avisynth script:
changefps(12.5)

[ricardouk]

Eheheheheh

when selecting the resolution in Automen instead of selecting keep original resolution acidentaly i choose 288 lol


I thought the fps conversion had to be done by mencoder when converting to flv....