Is somebody a NeroVision Express expert?

[jeanpave]

Hi.

If somebody knows everything there is about NVE, perhaps he can help me, please!

I am using NeroVision Express - version 3 - to edit .VOB files (cut out commercials, join, and so on). Nero's program is very good for editing out frames and very precise.

The problem is a very minor one, but it is annoying and it does stand out to a trained eye.
The resulting file, the file NVE creates, also a .VOB file just like the imported file, has a small glitch when you try to play it. About 5-7 seconds in, after 'Play' is pressed, the image has a slight trembling movement, a sort of a shudder, which lasts about half a second but which is very visible, and after which everything goes back to normal and plays fine until the end.
(This glitch is definitely created by the NeroVision Express encoding process.)

If one is trying to make his recordings as perfect as possible, editing out all commercials and unwanted parts, this is a really big annoyance because it definitely makes it clear that the result of all this work cannot be perfect.

Has anyone noticed this when using NeroVision Express? Does anybody know how to fix it?

[guns1inger]

I don't use NVE, but you might wish to try VideoRedo or Womble Mpeg Wizard, just by way of comparison.

[jeanpave]

I might give them a try, if you say they are very good authoring/editing programs. (They can output .VOBs, right?)
Which one of the two would you say I should try?

[mats.hogberg]

VOBs are part of what an authoring app outputs. That is a final stage, where no further fiddling should be neither needed nor done. In to a DVD authoring app you feed m2v video + some DVD compliant audio, possibly already multiplexed into an mpg file. An application that outputs VOB as just a file (without creating a full Video DVD structure), is just silly.

/Mats

[jeanpave]

Cool, thanks for clearing that issue for me.
I was afraid that maybe it would just work with .mpg/.mpeg/.avi, or something.
But if everything mentioned here is able to create DVD structures, just like NeroVision can, than I'll try them.

I guess I expressed myself that way because NeroVision is the primary tool for editing for me. Afterwards, I feed the .VOB file(s) containing the film into a more competent DVD authoring tool.

P.S. I've done some research, and I noticed that apparently Womble MPEG Wizard outputs only MPEG-1, MPEG-2, AC-3 Encode, AVI and MP4. (This is according to their website.) So it is not a true DVD authoring tool.

[mats.hogberg]

No, they are not authoring tools. But as you say you already have a tool for authoring, what you seem to need is a better editor than NV, and they are.

/Mats

[MysticE]

Cool, thanks for clearing that issue for me.
I was afraid that maybe it would just work with .mpg/.mpeg/.avi, or something.
But if everything mentioned here is able to create DVD structures, just like NeroVision can, than I'll try them.

I guess I expressed myself that way because NeroVision is the primary tool for editing for me. Afterwards, I feed the .VOB file(s) containing the film into a more competent DVD authoring tool.

P.S. I've done some research, and I noticed that apparently Womble MPEG Wizard outputs only MPEG-1, MPEG-2, AC-3 Encode, AVI and MP4. (This is according to their website.) So it is not a true DVD authoring tool.

Look at Womble MPEG Video Wizard DVD.

http://www.womble.com/products/dvd.html

[jeanpave]

Can you give me examples of better editors, Mats? (I'm sure there are a few.)

MysticE, the Womble MPEG Video Wizard DVD seems to be a great find. I'll definitely ask them for a trial version.
Thank you very much for the awesome suggestion!
(I'm very glad that it can encode in AC3, because my authoring program needs .VOBs encoded with AC3 sound only - I know it's very demanding, but it does excellent menus. )
I only wonder if it can edit AVIs and other formats... Oh, well, I'll find out soon.

[mats.hogberg]

(Some of the) Best mpg editors seems to be VideoReDo and the Womble lineup.
Different video formats take different editors - And in all honesty, not all video formats lend themselves to edits at all; Highly compressed AVI (DivX & cetera), wmv and such are best left alone.
For a complete list, take a look under Tools:

Video Editors (Advanced) (39)
Video Editors (Basic) (27)
Video Editors (MPG/DVD) (12)
Video Editors (WMV/AVI) (13

/Mats

[tinker]

Mpeg Video Wizard DVD is an excellent software, but it will take Mpeg file only. It re encodes only what is necessary. You can also make basic menus and produce DVD.
If you need to edit Avi, look at TMPGEnc 4 XPress, but this is not DVD authoring software. It will produce, beside other, DVD compliant file.

[MysticE]

Mpeg Video Wizard DVD is an excellent software, but it will take Mpeg file only. It re encodes only what is necessary. You can also make basic menus and produce DVD...

That's not true. From the Help file:

Video clips include MPEG and AVI video files. The following are some of the most frequently used video file name extensions: "mpg", "mpv", "dat", "vob", "vro", "mp2", "m2t", "ts", "avi", "rec", "asf", "rmvb", "wmv", "mp4", and "mov".

It's strength is editing DVD compliant MPEG files though.

[tinker]

You are right, my mistake.

[jeanpave]

Thanks for presenting all these details, guys.

I have to confess, I had been a little surprised at first when I read that so many programs supposedly only edit MPEG/MPG files. The very first one I tried, which is NVE, accepts WMV, AVI, and others, quite easily. What were the chances of finding the best editor and being disappointed by it, I thought.

NVE's strength is that it can edit many files. The downside is that it can only output VOBs properly. (And, on some computers, like mine, it causes annoying errors, too. But I'm still keeping it. 8) )