Could anyone walk me through MPEG to (S)VCD with TEMPGEnc?

[68269]

Hello
I am new to this game but have allready made my first VCD.However the quality was not what I had expected. Sound was good, but picture quality was bad. Stuttering and blured was the final result.
My settings for the VCD was:
VideoCD(pal). High Quality(slow), interlaced, 4:3 625 line, Full screen(keep aspect ratio)

My movie was edition in Studio DV and rendered as MPEG. I then used TMPGEnc 2,02 edition to encode with the settings above.

This did not give me the quality I aim for. How should I go about?Should I go for SVCD instead of VCD?Please advice.
Any Help is Higly appreciated.

[jan_hut]

tmpgenc 2.5 should give you better results

[68269]

But why? TEMPGEnc 2.02 should be one of the newest. And where can I find 2.5 edition?
Thank You

[Igot2blues]

Your problem is that you use the Mpeg output from studio as input to TMPGENC. To benefit of the encoding quality of Tmpgenc you must render to AVI in studio then encode in Mpeg1 or Mpeg2 in Tmpgenc.
To get the last version change .com by .net in your URL

[68269]

Thank You for your answer.

Should the settings be the same though?

[Igot2blues]

With TMPGenc 2.02 use the standard SVCD template, it is set at CQ 65 i think, increase the quality to 100 if you want. You can do further tweaking later

[68269]

Well now I am getting frustrated. I rendered my movie as AVi in Studio DV, and then I encoded it using TEMPGEnc 2.5. It took nearly 24 hours and when I wanted to burn it as a Video CD on WinOn, I was told it couldn`t be done. What now?
Could anyone tell me what is wrong?

[Hollywood004738]

what is the resolution on the avi file
(TMPGenc will set your output to the rez of the original)

What size is your output mpg
(Your filesize may be to big to fit on 1 cd)
In which case...Use TMPGenc to split the file

Try using Nero Burning Rom to create your disc.

[68269]

When You talk about resolution I am not completely sure what You mean.(I am totally new to this) However when rendering AVI in Studio DV i believe it have been 720x576, 25 frames/sec. Was it this You ment?

As for the MPEG rendered movie, the total was no more than 21 min, which I believe should be covered by one CD.

Thank You so much for helping me!

[Igot2blues]

Well, your first try was with an VCD encode, now you try an SVCD type encoding.
Check that your burning program knows about SVCD. Nero 5 support SVCD.
Now 24 hours is very slow??? on a pIII 500 i expect 3 hours for 20 minutes (at least 3 frames/s) in cq mode and 6 hours in 2 pass vbr!
Make your first shot on a shorter selected clip!

[68269]

I have tried to encode to SVCD with TEMPGEnc 2.5 and it took 24 hours. I do not know whether this is a result of a slow computer or.... I have a Compaq 7474, with loads of disc space and just upgraded to 256 RAM.
If anyone could tell me from beginning to end how to make a good quality (better than VHS) video cd I would be very grateful. I edit my movies using Studio DV, and need to know everything from there.

One thing I else i wonder about is that when rendering in StudioDV my AVi project is 720x576, but TEMPGEnc have 704x576 (PAL) do this mean anything?

[Hollywood004738]

In TMPGenc make sure your output frame size is:
352x240 = ntsc
352x288 = pal

This is compliant VCD fram size.

SVD is
480x480 = ntsc
480x576 = Pal


Make sure your output settings for VCD(Pal) are

352x288 framsize (Resolution)
CBR (Constant Bitrate) = 1150 kbps
Audio Bitrate = 224 kbps
Framerate= 25 fps

[Igot2blues]

The previous post give you the VCD and SVCD standard.
Your input material is mini DV standard and has a definition of 720X576.
The 704X576 definition is the DVD D1 PAL standard.
To encode a CD media (for television) the best and simple way is to use the SVCD standard (SVHS standard), this preserve (480X576 interlaced) the input quality for a 30 to 35 minutes film and could be read by many standalone DVD.
To encode use the standard template constant quality with quality=100.
Do not use any filter or special setting.
Import the mpg2 file in your Svcd burning package.