adobe premiere rendering issues...

[dazndan04]

So last night I was able to export some videos from my adobe premiere pretty flawlessly. The 15 minute video took about 35 mins to render and came out fine. This morning I was working on another video, the video is from the same quality and video camera as the first, and exported it after I was done. It took about 20 minutes for this 10 minute video, but when I viewed it I notice black bars around all 4 edges so I thought I should change the video output from avi to the quicktime output codec, and that took about 1hr before it ended in an error. I figured out why I had the black bar, I was in widescreen mode instead of the fullscreen, so I restarted Premiere and selected the fullscreen option, reeditted my raw video like i did before and when I tried to export it, it say it would take over 3hrs to finish, the same video that I exported in the wrong format in a mere 20 minutes. So I decided to reinstall premiere because perhaps I may have done something to the settings when I was trying to play around with different codecs in the export settings. I tried it again and same end result. I'm not sure what to do and could use some help. thanks in advance.

[edDV]

So last night I was able to export some videos from my adobe premiere pretty flawlessly. The 15 minute video took about 35 mins to render and came out fine. This morning I was working on another video, the video is from the same quality and video camera as the first, and exported it after I was done. It took about 20 minutes for this 10 minute video, but when I viewed it I notice black bars around all 4 edges so I thought I should change the video output from avi to the quicktime output codec, and that took about 1hr before it ended in an error. I figured out why I had the black bar, I was in widescreen mode instead of the fullscreen, so I restarted Premiere and selected the fullscreen option, reeditted my raw video like i did before and when I tried to export it, it say it would take over 3hrs to finish, the same video that I exported in the wrong format in a mere 20 minutes. So I decided to reinstall premiere because perhaps I may have done something to the settings when I was trying to play around with different codecs in the export settings. I tried it again and same end result. I'm not sure what to do and could use some help. thanks in advance.

This is why you do short test clips. Reinstall Premiere? Not. The issue is settings.

[dazndan04]

yeah, i think it is most likely the settings. i tried to export in widescreen again causing the video to have the black bars around all 4 sides and it rendered in less than 15 mins, but when i tried rendering in full screen to eliminate the black bars, it estimated 2hrs to render. so it is the settings that is causing the long amount of time. what settings do you recommend for premiere then?

[edDV]

First, is the camcorder a MiniDV?

Is your Premiere project setting DV standard?

Are you exporting to default MPeg2 DVD?

I'm guessing all that from the original post. A 35min encode for a 15 min clip is near what you would expect for a 1.8 GHz P4 CPU.

Black borders are added top and bottom if you ask for wide format in project settings. If the camcorder was recording normal 4:3, this would squish the video vertically.

I'm not sure what you did to get side borders. One way is to export 4:3 flagged video to a wide format. If you source is 4:3, stay away from wide settings.

Why did you export to Quicktime? Maybe my guesses that you were trying to make a DVD were all wrong.

Start over and explain what your camcorder is, whether the video was shot normal or wide, what the Premiere project setting was and what you intend to export.

[dazndan04]

Yeah, my camcoder is a miniDV. I'm using a Sony Handycam DCR-DVD505

I imported the files from the dvd into my computer which gives a mpg format, I then converted it to a more Adobe Premiere mpg compatible format with Super or MediaCoder into a more compatible mpg format.

I open a new project under DV - NTSC > Standard 32kHz

Reason I used quicktime was because I was trying to figure out why I had black bars in the first place.

Thanks for the help thus far.

[edDV]

Yeah, my camcoder is a miniDV. I'm using a Sony Handycam DCR-DVD505

I imported the files from the dvd into my computer which gives a mpg format, I then converted it to a more Adobe Premiere mpg compatible format with Super or MediaCoder into a more compatible mpg format.

I open a new project under DV - NTSC > Standard 32kHz

Reason I used quicktime was because I was trying to figure out why I had black bars in the first place.

Thanks for the help thus far.

You have MiniDVD (MPeg2) not MiniDV (DV format). They both have the same frame size 720x480 and 29.97fps.

A DV project format will work but will convert MPeg2 to DV format on the way to re-encoding to MPeg2. You may get better quality using an uncompressed project format. Recent versions of Premiere and Premiere Elements directly import camcorder MPEG2 formats.

[dazndan04]

i tried to import it directly into premiere but premiere wouldnt recognized the sony handycam, is it because its not through firewire perhaps but by usb?

how do i use an uncompress project format?

thanks again.

[edDV]

i tried to import it directly into premiere but premiere wouldnt recognized the sony handycam, is it because its not through firewire perhaps but by usb?

how do i use an uncompress project format?

thanks again.

You can use the Sony software to transfer over USB to a file and then import that into Premiere.

Depending on your Premiere version, uncompressed project settings would be something like

NTSC 720x480 Video for Windows
29.97 fps, upper field first, 16bit, 48KHz audio
Compressor = uncompressed.

MPeg2 playback from the timeline will be sluggish until rendered.

[dazndan04]

the files i got from the sony camera via usb where mpg format that wasnt recognized by premiere, hence the reason i had to use Super to convert it to a compatible mpg format.

[edDV]

the files i got from the sony camera via usb where mpg format that wasnt recognized by premiere, hence the reason i had to use Super to convert it to a compatible mpg format.

I see. A newer Premiere version would support camcorder MPeg2. I think it is a packetized stream.