SVCD Capacity per 800 meg cdr

[spidey]

Hey Guys,

Using TMPG to encode to SVCD ntsc from a rip, I had a few questions.

How much time of video can you get per disc using the TMPG template for ntsc SVCD ?
- I was planning to set it at the default maximum with an 1150 minimum rate

What type of Variable Bitrate setting is best ?

As far as Audio, which is better for encoding, TMPG or using an external such as tooLame ?

Thank you very much guys. I've tried the bitrate calculators, but also wanted to see if I caould get anyone's general guidelines too. Thank you and have a great weekend !!

[poopyhead]

hey,

i don't use the default templates settings, but i can tell you the relavent specs i use. CQ_VBR CQ=70, max=2520 min=0. the max i was able to fit on a CD was arount 44 min. obviously lower bitrate means u can fit longer on each disc, but lower quality

2-pass VBR is best, but it nearly doubles your encoding time compared to CQ_VBR.

external audio encoder is always better, but to some people like me, i can't notice the difference between tmpgenc's own audio and external audio

[spidey]

Thanks Bud,

I appreciate the info very much !!!! Have a great weekend !!!!

[hobojester]

Can en1 tell me the EXACT settings they use in TMPGEnc (Templates and settings) to get a good quality output? I've just been trying tons of things and I get anything from really crappy picture with no jumpy scenes, to ok picture to pretty jumpy on the TV. Any help or input would be appreciated! Thx

[poopyhead]

if you only notice jumpiness on your TV, as opposed to the computer monitor, it is most likely because you choose the wrong field order.

as for the critical settings (based on my experience):

use dvd2avi to determine what type of source video you have. either FILM (23.976 ftps progressive) or NTSC (29.97 fps interlaced) or a percentage of both.

1) during the majority of the film, if the source video (as indicated by dvd2avi) is significantly FILM (prolly no less than around 95% FILM), then you should use FORCED FILM in dvd2avi and used the NTSC FILM template in tmpgenc (non-interlaced source, 3:2 pulldown)

2) if the majority of the film is NTSC, or close to it, you need to turn off FORCED FILM in dvd2avi and used the regular NTSC template in tmpgenc (interlaced output and input video, and no 3:2 pulldown)

more often than not, some movies start off in high percentage of NTSC. normally, you would need to method 2 described above. however, if the video source quickly becomes majority FILM. (i.e. starts off as 70% NTSC but quickly becomes 99% FILM and stays that way)...then you can treat it as FILM and use method 1.

however, just cause the video is majority FILM, progressive doesn't mean there won't be any lines. i've had some 98% FILM where there were some interlaced lines. in these cases, you should use the de-interlace filter, either blend (adaptive) or double (adaptive) depending on which tmpgenc version you have.

[hobojester]

poopyhead -=-

Thx for all the help man. I just got back from a movie (Count of Monte Cristo, thought it was pretty cool) so I'll give all that a try in the morning. I really appreciate all your help....

Didn't you say that you prefer SVCD's instead of VCD's 'cause you want the quality? How good of quality would you say you get w/your SVCD's? Thx again!

-=- HoboJeSTeR

[poopyhead]

well...comparing just pure VCD and SVCDs...(XVCDs have some from both)......SVCDs have higher resolution, i believe i higher audio bitrate as well, higher video bitrate, VBR as opposed to CBR of VCDs...and mpeg 2 compression is generally better than mpeg 1.