WinDV Capturing Problem

[ViperUKR]

When capturing from my camera using WinDV, it doesn't capture the sound in some parts. Usually, it captures perfectly, until it gets to 2 scenes, that were recorded a long time within each other (One scene was recorded, and then another was recorded the next day). The first scene captures perfectly, but the second one is without sound, and so are the scenes after that. I'm not really sure what specifications I need to list to be more helpful, my computer info is in my profile. What my question is, is the problem with the winDV program itself or the settings that I might be using with it. The settings are exactly from the guide that I found on this website (How to capture DV Video from your camera and convert it to DVD - Which is what I am trying to do). I've tried Sony Vegas 7.0, but it seemed too complicated. I'm not looking for anything top of the line, just something to transfer to my computer, so I can burn it to a DVD. I've also tried Scenalyzer, but I didn't like how it split every seen apart (this was trial version). I like winDV and don't really wanna switch to some high end program when winDV does exactly what I need...it just doesn't do it correctly.

Can anyone offer some insight to this problem. I know the information I wrote is a bit messy and all over the place, but I hope it's understandable. Will elaberate further if needed.

[gadgetguy]

Make sure you aren't using device control (Uncheck that box between Config and Capture). Then manually start and stop playback. Also try both Type1 and Type2 and see if you get the same results for each.

[ViperUKR]

Alrite, I'll try without the device control. What's the difference between type 1 & 2, since I didn't really see a difference.

[gadgetguy]

There is no difference in the video. The difference is how the audio is handled. Type1 has the audio interleaved with the video. Type2 has an additional audio track along side the video. Some editing programs will only work with Type2, others with Type1, and some will work with either.

[ViperUKR]

Yea, I was using type 2, as was written in the guide. I switched over to type 1 and as far as I can see, the whole thing has sound now. Gonna test out on a few more tapes, to see if it really is what I need now. Thanks for the input, lots of help from this site. Couldn't have done anything without it.

[redwudz]

I recall that issue has come up before. But I don't know the cause. If you need type 2, you can always convert it after it's transferred. There are a couple of programs for that in our 'Tools' section: https://www.videohelp.com/tools/sections/dv

[ViperUKR]

Well, tried messing around with it, and all did seem to be fine, but as soon as I convert it to mpeg, or burn as a dvd, the parts where it USED to cut the sound off completely, now it sounds like all the people inhaled a bunch of helium (pretty funny to listen to actually). Voices are all squeeky. Currently going to try some different capture programs from that link redwudz posted, and hope for the best. If these other capture programs don't work, I'll guess I'll try the conversion from type 1 to 2 once it's been captured.

[Jim44]

I don't think the capture program is your problem, in this latest attempt. You made a big jump from DV-AVI to a DVD - the audio problem could have introduced during the encoding process.

You said "all seem to be fine" - by that do you mean the AVIs transferred from the camera are "fine"? If so, then the issue is not the capture program. What did you use to create the mpegs? Knowing that, we might be able to help locate where/what the problem is.

My 2 cents,
Jim

[ViperUKR]

I was using winDV to capture video from my camera as Type 2. It's fine (Video + Sound) until it hits a certain part in the tape where time in between recording was long (24 hours for example). It then cuts off the sound. When I captured it as a Type 1 file, the whole video seemed to be as it should be, no cutting off, no squeeky voices. I used TMPGEnc to convert it to mpeg. Once it was converted, the squeekyness appeared. I also tried to burn straight from the type 1 avi to DVD using TMPGEncDVDAuthor3. After it made it into a dvd file, I burnt it on a dvd-rw and tested i on my computer and DVD player. On both, the audio went squeeky at the same point.

I'm going to try Converting type 1 to type 2 after i have captured it in the next couple days, maybe that'll help.
I was using this guide: https://www.videohelp.com/guides/how-to-capture-dv-video-from-your-camera-and-convert-i...-dvd-id566#566

[Jim44]

I was using this guide: https://www.videohelp.com/guides/how-to-capture-dv-video-from-your-camera-and-convert-i...-dvd-id566#566

OK, this is going to sound like a silly question, but in "Step 4" for TMPGEnc, are you following the guide exactly and selecting "PAL" (same for Step 5)? If so, that may be the issue. You're in Canada, right? AFAIK, Canada uses NTSC. Make the correct selections and you should be fine.

If you are already selecting "NTSC", then I'm not sure what's going on. I've never had this issue with any of the DV-AVI I've made DVDs of (and I've started with both Type-I and Type-II in WinDV).

Jim

[ViperUKR]

Yea, I realized that he was doing the guide for PAL. I'm encoding it for a widescreen NTSC. When I start the program and the wizard starts up, I'm using NTSC 16:9 with linear PCM audio. Trying the Mpeg-1 Layer II audio or w/e it's called now. Will see if it makes a difference.

[CogoSWSDS]

I've seen the audio pitch change before. While filming some vacation video, I inadvertently changed the video sampling rate from 48KHz to 32KHz. Like you, When I captured it I used WinDV. The avi's with 48KHz sounded fine but when the files with 32KHz audio were added to the project, they sounded like the chipmunks. I ran the pieces that were 32KHz through an AVISynth script and resampled the audio from 32KHz to 48KHz using the resampleaudio() function of AVISynth. This way they all had the same audio sampling rate. Voila, problem fixed.

CogoSWSDS

[ViperUKR]

Alrite, I'll try avisynth tommorow and see if it makes a difference. I'm not adding clips to my project (sorry I didn't state all the info right away). It's just a single DV tape (1 hour - 1 1/2 hour) with no breaks in between (well, besides pressing stop and record, but that's normal). But maybe...I'll try anything right now, just trying to get some progress.