Few People Copy DVDs

[MOVIEGEEK]

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[ejai]

CDs ... DVDs ... it's all ones and zeros. We're doing digital extraction here. There's nothing "poor" about a direct audio extraction of PCM audio from CD-DA to PCM/WAV. It's completely digital, there was no analog or other half-assed copy method in use (like the DVD player to VHS method). You're really in left field on this one. Next thing will be the old "vinyl is better than CD" or "VHS is better than DVD" crap.

I must admit being a musican myself, yes vinyl sounds better than CD. Most musicans have come to that conclusion. I'm not saying that CD isn't better in terms of handling and storage, but when it comes to true sound it does a half-ass job.

As for copying DVDs it's something I use to do, I no longer have the time.

[olyteddy]

Personally I'm embarking on a project to copy my DVDs to 35mm film. I hope that will restore all the subtle nuance that was lost in the digitizing process. So far I've had great success using the 'Vinyl' ( http://www.winamp.com/plugins/details/39214 ) plug-in for WinAmp on the audio and I've been studying old Doris Day movies for tips on how to use Vaseline for the 'soft focus' look.

[GKar]

LOL

[MOVIEGEEK]

I've been studying old Doris Day movies for tips on how to use Vaseline for the 'soft focus' look.

Just smear it on the DVD. :P

[Nilfennasion]

With my hearing being what it is, the analogue noise floor of vinyl often drowns out some of the instruments. Go figure.

I am guessing this survey was done in America, where everything other than healthcare is dirt cheap. In Australia, a lot of retailers would have to slash the prices of products by as much as ninety percent in order to make purchase of a factory DVD cheaper than the cost of rental, copy, U-card printing, case replacement, and so on. Back in the good old days when Australia paid the highest comparative price in the world for prerecorded music, three tapes were made for every CD bought.

It does not help matters when the legitimate product in a given market is garbage. Independent distributors such as Anchor Bay at least take some pride in the workmanship of their transfers. In Australia, distributors like Anchor Bay drive money either overseas or into the hands of pirates. Or into the hands of DVD+R manufacturers. Usually combinations of options one and three.

But then, some people actually have eyes, and know that near enough is not necessarily good enough.

[raffie]

CDs ... DVDs ... it's all ones and zeros. We're doing digital extraction here. There's nothing "poor" about a direct audio extraction of PCM audio from CD-DA to PCM/WAV. It's completely digital, there was no analog or other half-assed copy method in use (like the DVD player to VHS method). You're really in left field on this one. Next thing will be the old "vinyl is better than CD" or "VHS is better than DVD" crap.

I must admit being a musican myself, yes vinyl sounds better than CD. Most musicans have come to that conclusion. I'm not saying that CD isn't better in terms of handling and storage, but when it comes to true sound it does a half-ass job.

As for copying DVDs it's something I use to do, I no longer have the time.

Its not because a vinyl sounds more soothing to you then a CD that it reproduces audio better. It doesnt. Get over it. Get an equalizer.

[sammie]

I think the suvey is reasonably accurate (albeit probably somewhat under reported). There are three key things that lead to the difference.

1) Everybody wants to pull two songs off an album to: put on their MP3 player, make a mix CD or share with their friends. No one wants 15 minutes of a DVD (ok, with the exception of a few of the pornophiles on the site).

2) You can rent a far larger variety of DVDs than you can purchase, conveniently and for a fairly low price. There are almost no souces to rent a CD.

3) People listen to songs over and over again and therefore want to keep them. Most folks rarely want to watch a movie more than once or twice.

[lordsmurf]

take some pride in the workmanship of their transfers. In Australia, distributors

Madman Entertainment does a good job of transfers. I've imported a number of their television and cartoon box sets. It gets to be pricey, shipping can cost almost as much as the discs, but worth it. Releases are not available anywhere else in the world, for the ones I bought.

[ejai]

Its not because a vinyl sounds more soothing to you then a CD that it reproduces audio better. It doesnt. Get over it. Get an equalizer.

Digital music has a more sharp rhapsy sound, it doesnot do well when it comes to creating analog sounds. You can play almost any record on any system todate and it will sound good. You cannot do the same with the music that is created using only digital devices, the sound will be extremely distorted. Just because it's digital doesn't mean it's the best choice, for now it's the only choice. You must not be into music production, so enjoy the great sound coming from your ipod.

This is not just my conclusion but many others in the industry who have written about it. I read about it long before I came to that conclusion. I have CDs that were digitized that sound worst than the original vinyl.

This is not just an opinion, it's a fact.

[GKar]

Kind of reminds of my old garage band days when the argument was over transistorized amps vs tube amps. Tube amps sounded more colorful was the verdict.

[Nilfennasion]

Madman have their fair share of absolutely gash discs, too, but there are still distributors here who think anything other than the original aspect ratio or a director-approved aspect ratio are acceptable. Not saying American transfers are flawless, but the amount of shovelware you see on the shelves of what would otherwise be respectable retailers...

[raffie]

I have CDs that were digitized that sound worst than the original vinyl.
This is not just an opinion, it's a fact.

That is because of bad production, doesn't have anything to do with the carrier and it could just as easily been the other way around.
I'm not saying CD doesnt have its limitations, and really, the recording profile of a CD (16bit/44KHz) is long overdue, but vinyl certainly doesnt have the capacity of reproducing audio better than an audio CD.
Some ppl may think vinyl sounds smoother to their ears than digital, but thats because of the inherit limitations of vinyl and can easely be emulated playing a CD and using an equalizer.