How better copy DVD to blank DVD ?

[siluet]

Need professional advice how better copy DVD to blank DVD - without any loss of quality, to make 1:1 copy. I plan use CloneDVD program. Is the DVD 4Gb enough for complete copy, or 8Gb required?

[ricoman]

We need more info. It depends on the size of the movie and if you want all the extras or just the movie. Try CloneDVD, if it says 100% then it is 1:1. Anything less is compressed. Most people can't tell the difference above 70%.

[babeflover]

Most movies, even main movie only, are more than 4.36 GB which is what you can have in a D5 disc without compression. so you have two option.

1- use D9 blanks so there will be no compression need it. or
2- if you are going to use D5 then, compress with the following free(or you can pay for the pro version) softwares; dvd Rebuilder/ with HC encoder. do the mail movie only, you should have the best quality possible even when compressing and it is free.

[siluet]

Any compression or editing(encoding-decoding) probably worsens video quality, so I will not use it. Editing movie means its saving on a hard drive. This takes away many disc space also.
Can I record content directly to DVD blank without having to first store it on a hard drive? Discs are copy protected. Or a better idea is to record to the hard drive first, then make copy onto the DVD drive? Can CloneDVD burn copy protected movie?

There are two CloneDVD programs:
CloneDVD 4.1 from DVD X Studios's http://www.clonedvd.net/index.html
and
elby CloneDVD 2 (Version 2.9.0.9) from Elaborate Bytes http://www.elby.ch/products/clone_dvd/index.html
which is the 'right' one?

[colossian]

Need professional advice how better copy DVD to blank DVD - without any loss of quality, to make 1:1 copy. I plan use CloneDVD program. Is the DVD 4Gb enough for complete copy, or 8Gb required?

No loss of quality with 4.7GB? Are you serious? Some of old classic movies are possible.

[ricoman]

The Elby CloneDVD2 is the correct one, the other is a blatant rip-off. You can also get it at Slysoft.com and package it with AnyDVD at a discount. CloneDVD2 will not rip copy protected DVDs, that is what AnyDVD is for. Lifetime updates at Slysoft and they udpdate protection constantly. It is better to rip to the HD so you can make another copy if the media is bad, then it will only take 5 min. to burn the 2nd copy. CloneDVD will let you burn to DL discs or to 2 DVD5 discs without any compression. But really, a little compression is OK. I have a 50" HDTV and an OPPO upconverting dvd player and up to about 70% compression looks great, certainly 80% I can't tell the difference. You can always go to DVDRebuilder with HCenc if you want to maximize quality of compressed video. I do when CloneDVD show less then 70%.

[siluet]

so what is steps: first run AnyDVD and copy DVD to hard drive, then use CloneDVD to burn file to DVD blank?

[Dreadnaught]

I would say you can

1) Run AnyDVD or use DVDFab HD Decrypter to copy to hard drive
2) Using Elby's CloneDVD2 you can review the 'contents' of the DVD and decide what you want to keep, e.g. do you want all of the languages, trailers, splash screens, etc. By excluding some content you will 'reduce' the starting size of the DVD and in turn require less compression.
3) Burn the data to a blank DVD.

Note: If the blank DVD is a Dual Layer no or very little compression may be required. With a DL disc it may even be possible for you to back up the full contents of the DVD uncompressed without excluding any of the content.

[siluet]

AnyDVD run in background? is it a driver?
What is better to use, AnyDVD or DVDFab HD Decrypter 3.1.4.0?
How much time required to copy DVD to hard drive?

[Seeker47]

AnyDVD run in background? is it a driver?

Yes, according to what I've read here.

What is better to use, AnyDVD or DVDFab HD Decrypter 3.1.4.0?

AnyDVD is a payware program, FAB Decrypter is free. AnyDVD may clash with certain other running programs (not too sure about this), whereas Fab Decrypter is run standalone, first, as the ripper. If you should decide to use VOBblanker for something, you'll find that it has now been hobbled (probably under pressure from the same folks who killed off RipIt4Me, FixVTS, and MenuShrink). I wouldn't place any bets as to when the other shoe may drop, and they do the same thing to PGCedit . . .

How much time required to copy DVD to hard drive?

You probably won't save a whole lot of time here, using THIS one vs. THAT one. DVD Decrypter seems to take between 9 - 15 minutes to rip a DVD-9 on my system. (Faster hardware might make some difference there.) I use DVDFab Decrypter to effect those rips that DVDD can no longer do, because of enhanced copy protections. It seems to be slightly faster than DVDD. Let 'er Rip, and go get yourself a cup of coffee.

[Dreadnaught]

AnyDVD works in the background to automatically remove the copy protection of a DVD movie as soon as it's inserted into the drive, allowing you then to backup the movie using a DVD backup tool such as CloneDVD2. Costs about USD$50.00

DVDFab HD Decrypter or even DVD Decrypter are both freeware and will allow you to copy the DVD files to your HD automatically remove the copy protection.

The time required will of course vary with the amount of data on the DVD and the specs of the PC, I have backed up 4GB in about 5 minutes on a machine with a 3GHz processor and 1GB of RAM. I have also backed up 5-8 GB in 15-20 minutes on a 1GHz 378MB RAM machine.

Carry out a few tests your self download DVDFab HD Decrypter and backup a DVD to your Hard Drive, pick a DVD that is almost full to capacity so that you get an idea of maximum length of time.

[siluet]

To copy image to hard drive: do this with DVDFab HD Decrypter (or AnyDVD) running in background, and use CloneDVD to write image to hard drive?

This programs will not interfere with Nero 6?

[ricoman]

Slysoft will give you a 21 free trial of the full version software to try (AnyDVD & CloneDVD2). Experiment for 3 weeks and decide. AnyDVD runs in the background, set it up once and never touch it again, just access CloneDVD and in 10-20 min. you have a backup and a copy on your HD. One step, walk away and come back in a few minutes. I have used most of the backup software out there and like it the best. DVDFabdecryptor (free) works well too, but then you have to use Shrink and Imgburn to process and burn so it takes a bit longer. Same with Ripit4me (may it rest in peace).

[siluet]

I have Nero 6 installed, so it possible use DVD Shrink in conjunction with Nero? The DVD Shrink output can be saved as files on hard drive, which can be then burned with Nero.
The thing is to review the 'contents' of the DVD file before burning, to decide what can be removed. DVD Shrink can do this editing?

[ricoman]

I have Nero 6 installed, so it possible use DVD Shrink in conjunction with Nero? The DVD Shrink output can be saved as files on hard drive, which can be then burned with Nero.
The thing is to review the 'contents' of the DVD file before burning, to decide what can be removed. DVD Shrink can do this editing?

I'm not a fan of Nero but it should work. I suggest using Imgburn (free) for burning, it is very good, it is the burning engine from DVDDecryptor. But, you should be able to process with Shrink and burn with Nero if that is your preference.

[Dreadnaught]

Either of DVD Shrink or CloneDVD2 will allow you to review the 'contents' of the DVD file before burning, to decide what can be removed and compress into smaller files.

DVD Shrink can compress to a greater degree while CloneDVD2 will compress much faster, they each also give you the option to write the output to Hard Drive or with an extra step or two write to a DVD.

Experiment a bit and see what is best for you.

[ricoman]

No extra steps for CloneDVD2, just set it an forget it. You can also use Ripit4me, it uses DVDDecryptor, Shrink and FixVTS. You can set it up as a one-click also, but it might take a try or two to get the hang of it.

[siluet]

so, one of approved combination is DVD Shrink(for decrypting) + CloneDVD2 for burning.

[ricoman]

so, one of approved combination is DVD Shrink(for decrypting) + CloneDVD2 for burning.

No, neither will rip protection (decrypt), they both compress and reauthor (remove unwanted extras etc.), but Shrink will not burn, CloneDVD2 will. You will need a ripping program like AnyDVD, DVDFabDecryptor or Ripit4me etc.

[spanky123]

DVD Shrink and Nero (automatically burns if you have Nero installed). Use Analysis pass if you want better quality.

If you're gonna compress a lot (more than about 70% but this depends on type of movie), then go for DVD Rebuilder and the best encoder available. It takes a lot longer though.

[siluet]

compression is not an issue if use dual layer DVD, its a little more difficult to pick up the good decrypting utility.

[ricoman]

Just a word about DL media, Verbatim is the ONLY reliable DL media and ALL DL media included Verbs are less reliable than good (TY or Verb) DVD-5 media. Just do a Nero CD/DVD Speed scan and see for youself. There are no good studies yet as to the longevity of DL media. If very good quality and no compression is mandatory, consider splitting to 2 DVD-5 discs.

[siluet]

Which program do splitting?

[ricoman]

Which program do splitting?

CloneDVD2 or Shrink.