Capture DVD to be edited/clean?

[mlong30]

Hi All,

What is the best way to capture a video from 4.5 DVD-R into VirtualDub? I purchase a DVD from my cousins highschool of her state finals, and would like to clean it up in VirtualDub.

Should I capture to Huffy using VirutalDub Capture with my Canopus AVC110 device or can virtualdub read the vob files directly?

Thanks.

Matt

[driguy]

If you already have it as a DVD, why capture it? Extract the video from the DVD, convert it from VOB to mpeg2 and use vdubmod instead. AFAIK, vdub cannot read VOB files directly, you have to convert it into a format it can recognize first. Anyone else care to chime in on this one?

EDIT: Just realized you can open VOBs in virtualdubmpeg2. Try that.

[guns1inger]

vdubmod or virtualdubmpeg2 can read VOBs. or you can use DGIndex to create a .d2v project and load that instead.

What sort of cleaning up do you intend to do ?

[mlong30]

What sort of cleaning up do you intend to do ?

NTSC Interlaced Video.

1. Delete the first 1,580 frames from the video because
its just commericals about High School basketball.

2. I would like to use SoundPro to remove the noise in the audio,
then use SonyVegas to create a .AC3 file.

3. I want to remove some of the noise if this is really noise or just pixelation in the video. I'm still not sure what filter to use because I think NeatVideo 2.0 would just be to strong in this case. Don't want to loose all my detail.

4. I want to adjust the brightness just a little. Its looks like the levels are off.


I'm planning on using the fill filter to cleanup the noise near the bottom. I'm not sure what type of noise or pixelation is caused in the blue/grey shirt, but it drives me crazy when I what it on TV.




I'm not sure how to clean this up since I don't know what it is for sure.





This one show really bad on the screen during playback. Again not sure if this is noise or just pixelation. Need a filter to clean this up if possible, just not sure which one.





Again you can see the noise on the TV screen, but not sure whats best to clean it up a little.




Thanks.

Matt

[mlong30]

vdubmod or virtualdubmpeg2 can read VOBs. or you can use DGIndex to create a .d2v project and load that instead.

Once I have the cleaning done for each VOB file, how do I save each VOB file that was opened in Virutaldub Mod, and then join them together to make one AVI?

Thanks.

Matt

[Bjs]

For multiple vobs , when you run virtualmod , hit Ctrl + E to bring up the script editor .

If vobs are ripped to C:\temp , and are vts_01_00 , vts_01_01 , vts_01_02 , ect , then script is

C:\temp\vts_01_00
C:\temp\vts_01_01
C:\temp\vts_01_02

Save as vts_01.lst into same folder , and open the new .lst file

It loads them in specific order as listed in the script .

Just take your time when going back and forth and virtualmod will behave .

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Q: Once I have the cleaning done for each VOB file, how do I save each VOB file that was opened in Virutaldub Mod, and then join them together to make one AVI?

Answer : As explained above .

Then :

Apply video filters as required .
Select first frame , lock in place , then choose last frame , lock in place .
Choose video compression , select codec , set any parameters required .

Audio needs thinking about .

It is possible to set audio to direct stream copy for ac3 for avi , thats if thats what it uses in the dvd.

Otherwise , set audio1 to full processing , conversion to 44.1kz , stereo , 16bit .
Compression to mpeg layer 3 , 96kbits stereo , 44.1khz

Set audio2 to none .

Save as new avi , wait till done ... thats just the basics .

[mlong30]

For multiple vobs , when you run virtualmod , hit Ctrl + E to bring up the script editor .

If vobs are ripped to C:\temp , and are vts_01_00 , vts_01_01 , vts_01_02 , ect , then script is

C:\temp\vts_01_00
C:\temp\vts_01_01
C:\temp\vts_01_02

Save as vts_01.lst into same folder , and open the new .lst file

It loads them in specific order as listed in the script .

Just take your time when going back and forth and virtualmod will behave .

Great!

When I save it, do I need to compress or uncompress? I want to use CCE to create the MPeg2 file. Also do I use full processing mode?

Thanks.

Matt

[Bjs]

I dont use cce , so I cannot comment on direct usage for virtualmod .

But check out this guide on frameserving from vdub (any incarnation) to bbmpeg ... its how I go to mpeg2 .

https://forum.videohelp.com/topic270071.html

Less of a problem , and no dvd authoring tools choke on the outcome from bbmpeg .

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When it comes to audio in frameserving to bbmpeg , if you intend on mpeg2 outcome , then for audio1 , set compression to none , and conversion should be set to 48kz , 16bit , stereo , or bbmpeg might not take the audio .

[mlong30]

I dont use cce , so I cannot comment on direct usage for virtualmod .

But check out this guide on frameserving from vdub (any incarnation) to bbmpeg ... its how I go to mpeg2 .

https://forum.videohelp.com/topic270071.html

Less of a problem , and no dvd authoring tools choke on the outcome from bbmpeg .

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When it comes to audio in frameserving to bbmpeg , if you intend on mpeg2 outcome , then for audio1 , set compression to none , and conversion should be set to 48kz , 16bit , stereo , or bbmpeg might not take the audio .

I just noticed that the file size in filters list are now 704X480. Is this normal when using VOB files? If so do I need to resize the video to 720X480?

I checked Gspot, and it has the Pic set to 704X480, and the SeqExt: 720x480.

Thanks.

Matt

[edDV]

I have to question the overall project design. Is there any way you can get access to the original camcorder tapes? This DVD has many problems most related to original capture and MPeg2 encoding.

The chroma and noise issues indicate the master was VHS or SVHS but captured as NTSC not S-Video. It shows evidence of YIQ to to RGB24 conversion which pulled resolution out of luminance and filled the image with cross color artifacts and noise. The still also shows deinterlace artifacts that may have been introduced with your still capture. Since you circled these deinterlace artifacts, I'd have to assume the video was deinterlaced before encoding to MPeg2. The levels are contrast stretched to 0-255 (-9 to 109 analog IRE) which will appear as crushed black and over hot white on a TV adjusted for normal broadcast.

Other than levels most of these problems can't be fixed, they can only be hidden. The tape needs to be recaptured and processed correctly.

[mlong30]

I have to question the overall project design. Is there any way you can get access to the original camcorder tapes? This DVD has many problems most related to original capture and MPeg2 encoding.

The chroma and noise issues indicate the master was VHS or SVHS but captured as NTSC not S-Video. It shows evidence of YIQ to to RGB24 conversion which pulled resolution out of luminance and filled the image with cross color artifacts and noise. The still also shows deinterlace artifacts that may have been introduced with your still capture. Since you circled these deinterlace artifacts, I'd have to assume the video was deinterlaced before encoding to MPeg2. The levels are contrast stretched to 0-255 (-9 to 109 analog IRE) which will appear as crushed black and over hot white on a TV adjusted for normal broadcast.

Other than levels most of these problems can't be fixed, they can only be hidden. The tape needs to be recaptured and processed correctly.

I knew the levels were off so, I was going to fix that issue. Unfortuately I can't get the masters, because I purchase this dvd from a local high school of my cousins basketball game, and they charged $40.00! I couldn't believe they charge 40.00 for this type of quality! The DVD Menu looks like it came from a DVDRecorder, just a plain blue screen with the word play on it.

So I guess I'm screwed, other than fixing the levels?

During playback on a TV the noise just stands out to much. Thats why I circled the interlaced lines, I believe the noise is located on the outer edges of each frame, just like the color artifacts and noise you mention.

Thanks.

Matt

[guns1inger]

The DVD Menu looks like it came from a DVDRecorder, just a plain blue screen with the word play on it.

Because it most likely did. It looks like it was shot on 8mm, or perhaps on DV but transferred to the DVDR via composite cables.

Either way, you are certainly right to affronted by the cost and quality.

[mlong30]

For multiple vobs , when you run virtualmod , hit Ctrl + E to bring up the script editor .

If vobs are ripped to C:\temp , and are vts_01_00 , vts_01_01 , vts_01_02 , ect , then script is

C:\temp\vts_01_00
C:\temp\vts_01_01
C:\temp\vts_01_02

Save as vts_01.lst into same folder , and open the new .lst file

It loads them in specific order as listed in the script .

Just take your time when going back and forth and virtualmod will behave .

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When I created the script file, I get an error message saying "Cannot detect file type of "C:\BrebeufVideoRepairs\vts_01.lst"

I don't see this as a file type in VirtualDubMod 1.5.10.2 either. Any suggestions?

Thanks.

Matt

[lordsmurf]

Start complaining to the school principals, the school board, and the coaches and senior faculty about the poor quality you're getting for a $40 fee. I bet the disc is a cheap penny-quality disc too, isn't it? Some Memorex piece of crap?

Video quality is VHS, dumped to a shoddy DVD recorder (Panasonic, no doubt, given your description of a plain blue screen), with audio and video quality issues.

You're getting financially raped. Even a studio movie in a store never exceeds $25.

Complain, bitch, nag, go hoarse. Eventually somebody will hear you, in that environment, and take action.