HDV to standaard dvd

[PeterK]

Hi,
can I use this program for converting hdv to standaard dvd?
What is the video quality off this progam?

[ChrissyBoy]

It depends on what format the hdv is. What codec is it?

[PeterK]

Hi,
I am thinking off buying the sony HDR HC7.
Now I have only standaard dvd player for Tv.
So I have to convert to normal dvd-r.
Is this possible, do I have quality loss?

Peter, Belgium, sorry for lang.

[ChrissyBoy]

As the HDV format is just a mpeg2 transport stream - yes it should be fine with SVCD2DVD. As for quality. You will be going from 25 Mbit/s at 1080i to 9 Mbit/s at 576i to make the DVD spec... Expect the output quality of any program doing this conversion to be less than the source. But as you are going from HD to SD this is a given. The DVD you will end up with will be excellent in standard definition terms but excellent SD is not HD!

[PeterK]

As the HDV format is just a mpeg2 transport stream - yes it should be fine with SVCD2DVD. As for quality. You will be going from 25 Mbit/s at 1080i to 9 Mbit/s at 576i to make the DVD spec... Expect the output quality of any program doing this conversion to be less than the source. But as you are going from HD to SD this is a given. The DVD you will end up with will be excellent in standard definition terms but excellent SD is not HD!

Hi,
just downloaded HDTV2DVD, how to set dimension to pal 720:576 (europe), aspect 4:3 or 16:9 and frame rate to 25. fps.
Can I set this setting only in the registered version SVCD2DVD.

Peter.

[ChrissyBoy]

All that will be deduced from the source. i.e if your source is PAL 16:9 then your dvd will be 720x576, 16:9 @ 25 fps.

[PeterK]

All that will be deduced from the source. i.e if your source is PAL 16:9 then your dvd will be 720x576, 16:9 @ 25 fps.

hi,
I am now registered for SVCD2DVD.

I have capered my hdv files to .m2t files with something from sony: "picture browser".
These files have a resolution 1440:1080, I can load these files after a quickscan with videoredo and saved like .ts files.
After loading .ts files in SVCD2DVD and make a test dvd output, the vob files have the same resolution 1440:1080.

How can I make this resolution 720:576 pal, ratio 16:9.

Thanks,
Peter.

[ChrissyBoy]

Can i see the log for this please Peter? (Help->Open logs...)

[PeterK]

Can i see the log for this please Peter? (Help->Open logs...)

Hi,

thanks for support.

svcd2dvdlog-20070815172615.txt

[ChrissyBoy]

link doesn't work.... want to zip it and email it to me?

[PeterK]

link doesn't work.... want to zip it and email it to me?

Hi,


svcd2dvdlog-20070815172615.zip

[ChrissyBoy]

if you change the extension to .ts does it work ok?

[Jikchung]

I believe this is happening because your source file is a .mpg, not a transport stream.

[Edit] - never mind, ChrisyBoy is one step ahead of me again...

[PeterK]

if you change the extension to .ts does it work ok?

Hi,
I have made a copy from a .m2t file and changed the extension to .ts
And ........yes its working now.

Thanks for helping.


Peter.

[edDV]

Are you aware the HC7 is capable of hardware downconversion to 720x576i in the camcorder for DV format export? If so I'm curious how the realtime HC7 downconversion compares to the programs you are using.

[ChrissyBoy]

Interesting.... Me too.

[PeterK]

Interesting.... Me too.

Hi,

I have already used the HC7 downconversion tool.
Why use the downconversion if the output is dvd!
I have several experiment with dowconversion in the camera, editing and exporting to dvd.
When capturing on pc in the sony to .m2t file format, editing and exporting to dvd the quality is far beter.
Normal I think, because the source is HDV.

Peter.

[edDV]

HDV is 1440x1080i
DV and DVD are 720x576i

There are two ways to make the conversion if DVD is the goal. The hardware chip in the camcorder does real time conversion to DV format. Software conversion takes longer but may produce better quality. Try both ways and decide.

[slacker]

I purchased the HC7 two weeks ago and I have mixed feelings about it. I do a lot of sports, i.e. high school football and basketball. After taping three or four football games in both early afternoon and evening settings, here iw what I've found. HDV for sports sucks, period. (We all knew that anyway.) Way, way, way too many motion artifacts. It's a joke. With that basic fact out of the way...

Here is what I've found focusing in on the initial capture format (HDV or DV), the transfer format (HDV or in-camera DV down conversion) and the encoding method (MPEG2) exclusively.

DV to DV (no down conversion during PC transfer) to MPEG2 is better than...
HDV to DV (down conversion during PC transfer) to MPEG2 is better than...
HDV to HDV to MPEG2 (using Vegas 6.0d)

This surprises me because I have been reading all the great reviews about HDV being so much better than AVCHD. If that is true, I don't know why anyone would buy an AVCHD camcorder. Those camcorders must be totally frustrating and yield completely unusable video to anyone who has taken a ton of video, a knowledgeable prosumer.

This year, for sports, I will be shooting exclusively in DV.

I guess I need to wait for full 1920x1080 60p HD at a prosumer price.
I'll be dead by that time.

[edDV]

or 1280x720/60p as used by ABC/ESPN/FOX.

[slacker]

Is that what they use at the baseball games edDV? I go to the Giants games here and sit fairly close to one of the camcorder setups, and I drool.

[edDV]

1920x1080p at 60p is out of reach for the broadcasters. 24p is supported in theory for ATSC but that is not yet used and only applies for 24p movies. 1280x720p is the current sports format.

DV records a frame per frame at 720x480i 29.97. HDV uses motion compression over 15 frame GOPs at the same bit rate as DV format (25Mb/s for video).

You can deinterlace HDV to 29.97 with OK results. Sport usually values motion precision over resolution. Try comparing DV origiation with HDV and see whch wins in your eyes.

[slacker]

At least for this Sony hc7, the best looking mid-afternoon football footage is taken directly in DV mode with AE SHIFT adjusted down -1 and Color adjusted down -1. Unlike the Canons, the Sony is naturally over-saturated and over-exposed.

I see so many motion artificacts using HDV with this camcorder that I'll take DV over HDV every time when shooting fast motion sports. I wonder if this is true for all HDV or just for this particular camcorder. I wonder how the Canon HV20 compares?

[edDV]

Probably similar. I need to shoot some sport with the HV20 and compare.