ADVC-300

[fatty4ksu]

can it capture HD signals? Or will I have to buy a new capture card?

Thanks!

[guns1inger]

Even if you can feed HD into it, it will only output DV 720 x 480/576

[edDV]

It captures 720x480i/29.97 only.

What is your source for HD?

[fatty4ksu]

Wow. That blows big time. That's a $400 piece of equipment.

I don't have an HD source yet, jjust pre-planning for football season.

[Dragonsf]

You can feed a HD signal into it, but - as said above- the result will be 720*480i568i @29.97/25fps.

[thecoalman]

It's $400 because it has a couple of extra features such as noise filtering. If you have a high quality signal coming into the unit the ADVC 110 will perform just as well at a little more than half the price. Unless you're looking to capture some shitty material you don't need it, having said that I'd look at other alternatives in addition to the 110 even if you were.

[edDV]

Wow. That blows big time. That's a $400 piece of equipment.

I don't have an HD source yet, jjust pre-planning for football season.

The ADVC and similar boxes are designed for capturing quality SD S-Video material. They also work fine capturing the SD down conversion off an HD cable or sat box. There is no equivalent for HD capture.

The only HD solutions are tuners for off air (ATSC) capture. Some also allow capture of non-encrypted local channels off cable (QAM).

Proprietary HD DVR recorders are available from cable and satellite providers.

[fatty4ksu]

So you are saying it's impossible to capture "pure" HD?

[Cornucopia]

What do you mean by capture? (LineIn? TunerIn? Other?) (Digitise AND Compress? or only Digitise?)

What do you mean by PURE HD? (Uncompressed? via HD-SDI? via HDV??)

A downconvert is just that, DOWNCONVERTED to SD (no longer HD). Might look better than something that originated in SD, might not.

There are other features to the ADVC-300 (and above) that appeal to the Pro and SemiPro markets that have less to do with what your needs are (more to do with interoperability with other Pro/SemiPro machines). IOW, this would be overkill for you for SD. And, as has been stated, it doesn't do HD.

What do you want your workflow to be like? What are your needs?...

Scott

edit: It's not impossible--there are devices like the Blackmagic Decklink that uses HD-SDI and there are HDMI ports available--but you have to have a reason and workflow and budget for them...

[edDV]

So you are saying it's impossible to capture "pure" HD?

From what?

You can capture "pure HD" from "over the air" with an HD tuner in your computer and an antenna pointing at your local DTV stations.

[fatty4ksu]

Well, I love the ADVC-300 because it works with all my old tapes.

But now, I'm done with that and with the HD era coming up. I want to be able to save all the KSU football games broadcast in HD and capture them to my computer in the same quality. (similar to what my advc-300 does) Will I need to buy a "hd" capture coard?

"pure" hd was probably a dumb comment. Hopefully you guys still respond.

[edDV]

Well, I love the ADVC-300 because it works with all my old tapes.

But now, I'm done with that and with the HD era coming up. I want to be able to save all the KSU football games broadcast in HD and capture them to my computer in the same quality. (similar to what my advc-300 does) Will I need to buy a "hd" capture coard?

"pure" hd was probably a dumb comment. Hopefully you guys still respond.

I keep my ADVC-100 parked on my cable box S-Video connector for 480i SD recording. Quality is very good SD especially when the source was HD.

For HD locals off cable there is the MPeg2_TS stream off the HD cable box IEEE-1394 port or if I had DTV reception here, I could capture the off air HD signal with a HD tuner card.

Three options to record HD, two save in HD.

[vhelp]

For HDTV capturing.., forget the ADVC. The color space is too far off to even
bother. I have two HDTV Receivers, and can capture with my ADVC-100 from
each of them (downsampled to 480i) and this is aprox equivalent to the satellite
quality recordings or slightly worse. But..

But, even if you *could* find an HDTV external that can output 480i or 480p,
but in the HD color space, the ADVC will not handle this very well, and you will
have a hard time trying to adjust the color levels, afterwards. I know, because
I've done this. I can still do it, but its just not worth it -- the trouble.

My Hisense hdtv receiver allows me to output it in 480i, but in HD color space.
Not in the traditional BT.601 standard. This provide *excellent* quality but at
a cost -- color space levels. They are very well off, unfortunatly.

ATSC all the way, or part-way-- Trust me, its not worth it. Better to go with
an internal (PCI) or external (USB) hd tuner capture card, like the Hauppague
WinTV-HVR-1600 or MyHD cards, etc. These have the ability to capture the
actual HD source in all its glory. The catch, is the location and antenna setup
for your living area. The channel that your sports is one (I think most peoples
say, FOX has all the sports) may not come in. Also, you need a beefy sys
for this type of project.

That's what you want.. an HD tuner capture card. There's also the WinTV-HVR-940,
a USB-2 version. Just some things to consider

-vhelp 4298