Video Import Help with VirtualDubMod - Subtitles Workshop!

[rp0094]

To start:
I use VirtualDubMod 1.5.10.2
I use Windows Movie Maker to edit
I use Subtitles Workshop

Alright I'll put it as simply as possible: VirtualDub is not recognizing the AVI files I am importing.

I ripped video from a DVD. It was a raw, uncompressed AVI file.

I imported the AVI file into Windows Movie Maker. Did some editing, and then I saved; IN ALL LARGE FILE SETTINGS. None of these settings seemed to work.

High Quality Video (large)
High Quality Video (small)
DV-AVI (NTSC)
High Quality Video (NTSC)

I don't feel like sacrificing too much quality, as I plan to upload it to YouTube, where it's automatically compressed for streaming.

There were no other options; those save settings were the only ones that kept the file an AVI, with a decent size, and quality.

NOW; Where the main issue arises:

I worked on subtitles for this video for 2 1/2 hours in Subtitle Workshop, and I saved them as a .SSA, which works with VirtualDub as long as you have the plugin.

The only VIDEO FILES that are AVI that import into VirtualDub without error, are the uncompressed AVI files that are created when you rip video segments from a DVD. Something is happening when I save my project in Movie Maker. When I go to <Open video file> in VirtualDub only one of the videos shows up, and I believe it was the DV-AVI, which says clearly in Movie Maker it is Uncompressed. There must be a codec that's being applied to the video file that Virtual Dub isn't recognizing.

I did, however, get an error with this:


"COULDN'T LOCATE DECOMPRESSOR FOR FORMAT 'DVSD' (UNKNOWN)
VIRTUALDUB REQUIRES A VIDEO FOR WINDOWS (VFW) COMPATIBLE CODEC TO DECOMPRESS VIDEO
DIRECTSHOW CODECS, SUCH AS THOSE USED BY WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER , ARE NOT SUITABLE. ONLY 'DIRECT STREAM COPY' IS AVAILABLE FOR THIS VIDEO. "

and...

" AVI: TYPE-1 DV FILE DETECTED -- VIRTUALDUB CANNOT EXTRACT AUDIO FROM THIS TYPE OF INTERLEAVED STREAM. "

I'm getting a bit tired of all these errors occurring. Am I supposed to say "Hey. Your work is in MSWMM(Movie Maker Project) format, and cannot be imported into another free video editing program. You cannot bring the video into VirtualDub to add subtitles!"? =/


I cannot tamper more with this video file, as it's taken over 7 years to complete. I would really prefer to preseve its quality. What can I do to get this video into VirtualDub?

Please, I need some assistance.

[45tripp]

I ripped video from a DVD. It was a raw, uncompressed AVI file.

How? Why?
Ripping dvd video is done with specific software like dvddecrypter , to remove protections.
If you mean you had some other video data stored on a dvd it's not ripping, copying rather.

"[b]COULDN'T LOCATE DECOMPRESSOR FOR FORMAT 'DVSD' (UNKNOWN)
VIRTUALDUB REQUIRES A VIDEO FOR WINDOWS (VFW) COMPATIBLE CODEC

cedocida or panasonic dv codec.

" AVI: TYPE-1 DV FILE DETECTED -- VIRTUALDUB CANNOT EXTRACT AUDIO FROM THIS TYPE OF INTERLEAVED STREAM. "

DVdate can convert type 1 to type 2

I cannot tamper more with this video file, as it's taken over 7 years to complete.

Do we get to see it?

gl

[rp0094]

I ripped video from a DVD. It was a raw, uncompressed AVI file.

How? Why?
Ripping dvd video is done with specific software like dvddecrypter , to remove protections.
If you mean you had some other video data stored on a dvd it's not ripping, copying rather.

used #1 DVD Ripper. It's hard to explain how the program works, but basically you select chapters and titles and rip from there.

"[b]COULDN'T LOCATE DECOMPRESSOR FOR FORMAT 'DVSD' (UNKNOWN)
VIRTUALDUB REQUIRES A VIDEO FOR WINDOWS (VFW) COMPATIBLE CODEC

cedocida or panasonic dv codec.

Thanks so much. I hope this is self-explanatory.

" AVI: TYPE-1 DV FILE DETECTED -- VIRTUALDUB CANNOT EXTRACT AUDIO FROM THIS TYPE OF INTERLEAVED STREAM. "

DVdate can convert type 1 to type 2

Thanks again.

This doesn't effect quality, does it?

I cannot tamper more with this video file, as it's taken over 7 years to complete.

Do we get to see it?

gl[/quote]

Sure, if I get it finished.

[45tripp]

type 1 to type 2?
no

[rp0094]

Hey. Hang on a sec, I just downloaded the newest version of VirtualDub and it loaded the video file just fine. Surprisingly, though, I can't figure out how to compress the video properly. I thought there were usually some advanced options, like set maximum MB size and whatnot. Unfortunately the projected file size is around 14,000 MB, which is just insane, even though VirtualDub says it's 'compressing'.

What am I doing wrong?

[45tripp]

use gspot or mediainfo to get info on your original files.

What do you want to convert to?

Vdub defaults to convert to rgb uncompressed.
when you select "save as.."
bottom right is a 'change' button, click it to get compression options (also available under 'video'->'compression").
You can select any of the vfw codecs on your system, configure and then compress with vdub.

[rp0094]

Yeah. That option at the Save As screen isn't there anymore, with the newer version of VirtualDub, apparently. But I went to Video -> Compression and I don't see anything that allows me to set a MB limit, or alter any compression settings.

[manono]

First you choose the codec in Video->Compression. Then you set it up in Configure, or whatever it says for whatever codec you choose.

[rp0094]

Do you know of free compression software other than Virtualdub? I'm looking at 125MB, and I need it to be 100 or less, and I'd like to do so by not losing any quality.

Unfortunately, VirtualDub doesn't seem to have the options it used to. When I go into configure there is nothing I can see that has any options that have anything to do with MB limits.

[manono]

Well, what codec did you choose? Popular AVI ones like XviD or DivX allow you to set the bitrate (which directly correlates to size) or the size itself. If you leave it at default, you'll get whatever the default setting is.

You could always read a guide about how to set up and encode your AVI. They're right on the left, under HOW TO. Since you're having trouble, you might try an all-in-one app, like AutoGK. It accepts DV AVI sources, and you can choose the final size in MB. If I'm not mistaken, for DV, you should go into the Hidden Options of AutoGK (CTRL-F9) and "Override Input AR", and set it for 4:3:

http://www.autogk.me.uk/modules.php?name=TutorialEN#6

Isn't DV 4:3? Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Most AVI sources (XviD, DivX) are 1:1.

[rp0094]

Thanks for the help.

I followed AutoGk's tutorial a little, but the program saves the file into segments, which are a minute long each.

[manono]

I don't understand what's so hard about shrinking 125MB to 100 without losing quality..

You're going to lose quality in any event. Just the act of reencoding into a lossy format causes quality loss. You may or may not be able to see the difference though.

"Debugger detected - please close down and restart!"

Read this:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=83955

What in the world did I do wrong?!

Maybe nothing. Did the video turn out OK? Only the audio is the problem? What kind of audio was in the source video? If you don't know, open it in GSpot and find out. And what kind of audio is in the finished AVI that AutoGK gave you? Again, if you don't know, open it in GSpot. I suspect the output audio is MP3, which is easy to encode, so perhaps there's a problem with the source audio. Do you have the AutoGK log for the encode? You might identify the source of the debugger, turn it off, and try again.

I did find out that AutoGK only supports Type 2 DV, so if you didn't take 45tripp's advice and convert it, that could possibly be the reason for your problems.

[rp0094]

Okay. Everything's fixed. Thanks for all your guys' help.

[wguru]

Likely two years after, the 'seven years' movie is water under the bridge, but couldn't help but notice the string's comments (and had to post w/respect to one comment).

Not sure what extent of editing is/was needed here, nor am I certain if this could have or can help, but contrary to this string's post which I believe might either incorrectly imply and/or somewhat inaccurately state that 'a MSWMM file...cannot be imported into another free video editing program', elsewhere I read that a MSWMM file can be imported into DVDFlick (and I believe DVDFlick can perform rudimentary editing and if I understand it correctly, DVDFlick affords variable compressions via it's project settings custom size feature). No?