AMD out of business by end of year?

[SCDVD]

I have an indirect reason to hope that AMD pulls thing out and does well again. The reason is competition. If AMD crashes and burns, the price for Intel processors will be much higher. Not only that but the rate of performance improvements will be slower as well because Intel won't have as much motivation to out-spec the competition. Some of the Intel fanboys who view this as if it were a ball game hoping "their team" wins have their head where they ought to be sitting. I prefer and use Intel CPU's but this is no ball game that we are talking about. It's very important that AMD survives and does well.

[lordsmurf]

I'll disagree with this statement. AMD has destroyed ATI and all the loyal ATI users are looking for other options for video capture cards since AMD killed the All-In-Wonder.

Good riddance. The AIW VIVO cards have been rubbish for the past 8 years. Everyone was better off with a dedicated capture card like a Hauppauge unit than dealing with the laughable attempt at driver support those cards had. Those users are better off now. What a wonderful world we live in.

Horsecrap.

Hauppauge PVR-250/PVR-350 cards did MPEG only, and were soft at 352x480. Very soft, on some earlier models, to the point of being almost blurry. It was a great consumer card for television timeshifting, but that's about it. Their PVR-150 card was such a useless piece of crap that it went off the market as fast as it appeared (due to all kinds of flaws and errors in the hardware).

An ATI AIW card in a good system (an Intel-based computer with some decent space and power) was only really topped b a $1,000 NLE card from the likes of Matrox or Canopus.

ATI was already floundering on the AIW thing, too busy appeasing gamers (a huge groups of dorks that will NEVER be satisfied). AMD killed it, thanks to 100% shit support.

There are smaller CPU manufacturers out there. Maybe one of them needs to be the next ig rival for AMD. I'm afraid the AMD days are probably starting to end. It was a fluke anyway, as the CPUs were always inferior to the Intel ones (especially for doing serious video, server or design work). It was a cheaper mom-and-pop / overclocker system, and that's really it. I've got an AMD, and it does decent, but it lacks CPU functions that prevent certain software from working (example: Adobe CS3 suite). My 7-year-old Intel, on the other hand, runs the software without flaw.

[ron spencer]

I never liked AMD....every time I used their processors it caught on fire...go figure

[Noahtuck]

I never liked AMD....every time I used their processors it caught on fire...go figure

Thats why you need to use one of these....



Or These...





I've used many many AMD cpu's exclusively (except the rare occasion when i aquired an intel through an upgrade of someone else's system) since the first year they came out and cranked the hell out of them & the only time i had one fry was when i forgot to plug the power into the heatsink fan
That baby fried quick

[pchan]

I have 1 P4 3ghz, 2 Athlon (3ghz, 2.5ghz) and a Core 2 Duo laptop. I am rooting for AMD to fix its Quad Core speed. In terms of quad architecture, AMD design is superior.

@Noahtuck,
You are right. I fried one too. I didn't sit the heatsink flat. The cpu fried in a second once powered up.

[Rudyard]

all i gotta say is...learn to spell ffs. ty

Why act like a moron? Picking up on obvious little typo's on a message board? See if you can read this: GET A LIFE

[rallynavvie]

as the CPUs were always inferior to the Intel ones (especially for doing serious video, server or design work). It was a cheaper mom-and-pop / overclocker system, and that's really it.

Close but not entirely. The Opterons were very competitive in the server market until the latest batch of 45nm Xeons came out. Also the FX-series chips were going blow-for-blow with the Intel EE-series for a while but that has also cooled off lately with the latest Core architecture. Funny thing is now Intel's are one of the best overclocking candidates so they even trumped them on the enthusiast market. Intel has really taken the gloves off in the past year.

As for the AIWs we used an X800 XT AIW in the DN800 as there was no room for a PCI tuner. Quality was similar to the Hauppauge PVR-250 that was in the 2460. Both only had hardware encoding for MPEG2. With the coaxial input on the AIW card it was only meant for TV tuning, not video capture. I don't think I ever used a coaxial input for any editing/mastering work I have ever done on a PC. That was like Video Toaster days. I still needed my ADVC-100 for composite or s-video capture to proper DV. However if your source was coaxial and it wasn't just simple TV then maybe there was a market.

[jman98]

I never liked AMD....every time I used their processors it caught on fire...go figure

I have a PC I built in September of 2000 that has an AMD 1GHz CPU in it and it's still running (I leave it powered on every day as it's my main connection to the internet) on the original CPU, heatsink and fan. I've had to replace the power supply a few times, but the original CPU is still going strong.

[SingSing]

AMD fortune has changed from "very bad" to "bad".

[DarrellS]

With the coaxial input on the AIW card it was only meant for TV tuning, not video capture. I don't think I ever used a coaxial input for any editing/mastering work I have ever done on a PC. That was like Video Toaster days. I still needed my ADVC-100 for composite or s-video capture to proper DV. However if your source was coaxial and it wasn't just simple TV then maybe there was a market.

All ATI AIW cards have video in dongles for recording from different sources and video out dongles. The coaxial input is only for the TV tuner (and FM tuner if card supports it). I believe the newer AIW cards have video in and video out on the same dongle.

[Rudyard]

Is AMD well advertised in the US?

Here in Australia, I have never seen an ad for AMD and I reckon of my extended family About 90% would have never heard of them (basic computer users) and a couple who know a little about computers know of them.

On the flip side, Id say 100% would know at least of intel and 90% know they are processors. They are on TV all the time with that little tag sound (i cant type it but it goes) 'don din don ding'

That sort of marketing is impossible to beat with the general computer user....they will not buy something they dont know of.

Maybe AMD needs a massive ad campaign similar to those mac ads that have irritated people for over a year. Sure they are misleading and to me extremely annoying after the first few times, but mac's are now booming with stores stocking them and the masses switching over.

[lordsmurf]

"with stores stocking them and the masses switching over"

Must be an Oz thing. People here don't give a crap. Just another dumb commercial that is very obviously lying to us. There has been no mass switchover, and the only major store now stocking Mac (that did not before) is Best Buy. Though I have yet to see one in stores on display. I only see them in ads, and for order online or by phone.

[bourboner]

I agree, I don't see "masses switching over" to Mac. Those ads were just damn annoying, fullstop.

I doubt if Macs will ever catch up to PCs. They could've once, back in the early-mid '90s, but they lost the opportunity. I can only blame Apple for that, to be honest.

Apple Mac? Get a life ha ha...

[Rudyard]

To Loardsmurf and bourboner,

Large Aussie chains that never carried them before (myer/jb hifi/domanye etc) all have mac sections now, their brochures now have pages dedicated to them and there was an article in the paper about some new large city store opening in Sydney.

I think the run away success of the ipod and the marketing that apple is a 'cool' brand is really working.

10 years ago I couldnt name 1 person with a mac, now nearly everyone I know has a mac laptop and at university everyone has them (not literally but there are tonnes of them).

In my experince above I am talking about laptops, I know of only 1 person who has a desktop.

What about AMD in the US, do they advertise much there?

[rallynavvie]

Advertising works, whether we like those commercials or not. Intel's trademark jingle is pretty well-known and their marketing campaign helps get that brand name into peoples' heads when they go out shopping for a PC. Perhaps it doesn't affect the enthusiast crowd as much but that's maybe 10% of the demographic?

AMD did lose out when they didn't bid to do processors for the Mac. Mac is not going anywhere anytime soon despite all the people trashing on them. Especially with the Intel chip ones being able to boot Windows then you can get the best of both worlds from one machine. I very nearly bought a 17" MacBook Pro instead of the supercomputer I'm building in another thread here. The build quality on them is magnificent and it gets great battery life despite it being a "portable desktop". But I didn't need another laptop since my Vaio is still running well. There are still companies that use Mac OS for design departments. School still tend to teach on Macs which just means the trend isn't going to go away soon. And I regularly see Macs at the Best Buy and Fry's I go to and they are available in-store. That's where I almost got the MacBook in fact.

[lordsmurf]

Especially with the Intel chip ones being able to boot Windows then you can get the best of both worlds from one machine.

Ever done it? Lots of problems exist with Bootcamp. More success is had from Parallels, but you don't always have access to 100% of the hardware, due to emulation layer.

[Des]

My wife has Parallels running on her iMac with a Wxp install (used to be w2k) for when she needs access to Windows only software, etc. It works mostly well. Biggest issue is it constantly drops the printer and scanner. It is an act of voodoo to get it to recognise them again. She's running the latest version of Parallels with all the updates,etc. Seems to freeze up often too.

I am think of installing Virtual Box on her machine and see if it works better, but since it's her computer I'm debating if I need the extra grief Iget enough grief when her programs stop, if one I put in stops all hell will break loose.

My Timex Sinclair never chrashed

--dES

[DereX888]

so, just to revive this old thread:
whats the latest 'newz' on AMD going out of business?

the end is nigh!