Ripping forums at Digital Video Forums shut down

[edDV]

Hatch turned the IP subcommittee over to Arlen Spector in 2006 and Patrick Leahy has led the Judiciary Committee since January.

http://judiciary.senate.gov/members.cfm

Hatch and Leahy have introduced all bills as cosigners in almost all cases. One looks in the mirror and sees the other. What is your point?

If you want to go back to 2005 here is what the Washington Post had to say.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A44361-2005Mar17.html

Nothing has changed with Leahy.

[BJ_M]

edDV - Dems have been in the majority since mid-January 2007. That's all it took?

no politics please -- you know the rules

[Soopafresh]

Sorry, I'll stop now.

[BJ_M]

the discussion of dvd ripping is on all major video sites - including sony's and avids ...

a lot of people have to rip content (legally) from a disk to use for something or another ...

in fact there is a LOT of info on this very subject on sony's forums ..

which makes it even weirder to shut down such info sites as mentioned by OP

[bbanderic]

Sony and other similar company's are pro-copy protection but yet they produce and sell CD/DVD burners, talk about hipocracy.

[painkiller]

You know, Soopafresh's 20:33 message is probably right on the mark.

Timing is everything, and I believe he's made an excellent point.

Meaning, of course, the disappearance of these sites are occuring since the publication of HD & BD cracks.

Could be the machines are coming for everything they see as a threat to their castles.

[stiltman]

the discussion of dvd ripping is on all major video sites - including sony's and avids ...

You ever try to rip a DVD and import it into Avid (Newscutter)?


DVDFab
VirtualdubMOD to AVI
Import

[ozymango]

the discussion of dvd ripping is on all major video sites - including sony's and avids ...

This may sound like quibbling to some, but I think they're making a major difference between ripping and decryption.

Note in the original commentary that started this particular thread, the person at dvd-digest noted "discussions of ripping/decryption" -- and it's not to split hairs to state that the "ripping" part is completely okay, it's the decryption that's the issue.

I certainly have no great fear that the movie studios are gonna collapse based on a bunch of people in forums backing up encrypted discs, but I do agree that it's a bit disingenuous to lump ripping and decryption as identical. That is, I can see why hardware/software companies can be perfectly fine with people ripping and burning their own DVDs, but it's not to take the studios' side to say that a person's personal, home-made video on DVD doesn't give the viewer automatic rights to decrypt an encrypted DVD.

Beyond that, it's all politics and personal opinion -- the technical ability to do something is not the same as the legal right to do so. If one disagrees with that viewpoint, that's cool, but that's beyond the discussion on a non-political level.

[jman98]

Because of the way that DVD was designed, ripping without encryption is useless except in those rare cases that involve non-encrypted DVDs. Presumably those would be non-commercial DVDs that someone produced in his home by various possible methods. Similarly, being able to rip an encrypted DVD but not decrypt it is completely useless. That's why they are joined, because in the vast majority of cases people want to do both.

[ozymango]

Similarly, being able to rip an encrypted DVD but not decrypt it is completely useless. That's why they are joined, because in the vast majority of cases people want to do both.

I understand that. But that doesn't give a person a legal right to decrypt an encrypted DVD. That's my exact point. And I can certainly understand those who don't think it's cool to decrypt an encrypted DVD, even if it's for personal use.

[Seeker47]

Digital Digest has been de-balled and made to wear a dress. What further reason do they have to continue "publishing" ? They might as well just pack it in now. (The DD Admin as much as admitted that their members will be leaving in droves.)

Sites that are willing to say "Up Yours" to these folks, and fight the power, need to be based in places where this oppressive cabal cannot reach them.