Bitrate too high.

[juneau]

I've just recieved a live music bootleg dvd from a friend and on three seperate sections the video becomes choppy and garbled. After a few checks i noticed that the bitrate was peaking at 13000kbps for the first two instances and 30000kbps for the last. How would i go about re-encoding this so the max is below 10000kbps? The audio is 5.1 and i'm not too sure how to keep it that way if i need to demux the audio, re-encode the video and remux.

I've tried sending it through dvd rebuilder but to no avail as the dvd is below the size of a dvd-5 already so it skips the encoding section. Then i tried sending it through dvd shrink with a 20% decrease in quality and it did nothing to drop the problem bitrate below the dvd standard bitrate.

Please help, i'm completely lost.

[bendixG15]

Bootleg stuff doesn't fly here....

[lordsmurf]

Re-encode the video, quit using transcoders.

[redwudz]

juneau, please PM me to explain 'bootleg' and if this is not in violation of our rules, I will unlock your post.

Moderator redwudz

EDIT: Post unlocked. OP has shown me this is not a copyrighted video and not a rules infraction.

[redwudz]

As mentioned, you need to re-encode the video to a more compliant bitrate. A bitrate calculator from our 'Tools' section will show you the bitrate needed for your video playing time and your desired file size.

The good news is a high bitrate video should encode to a lower bitrate with a minimal loss of quality. For encoders, you can try the freeware QuEnc or HC, or invest a few dollars for a payware MPEG encoder. They both give similar results, but the payware encoders are usually a little easier to learn to use.

Then once you have encoded to DVD compliant MPEG-2, you need to author and burn to DVD. There are also freeware authoring and burning programs. GUI for dvdauthor and DVDAuthorgui are a couple of authoring programs. ImgBurn is one of the better burning programs.

There's a lot more to all this, and a lot of ways to do it. Good luck,

[AlanHK]

Fastest and simplest probably ReJig.

You can use it to "recompress" to any percentage or fixed size.

The authoring mode lets you make a new VOB fileset to burn.

[juneau]

Thanks for re-opening the thread Redwudz. I'll try it with rejig first then if that fails i'll try reencoding with QuEnc or HC. I'll let you know how this progresses.

[dphirschler]

BTW, if you demux the audio, re-encode the video, the 5.1 audio remains unchanged and should still sync up perfectly. However, my experience with audience-shot videos is that the audio is always a bit off-sync. That's because the sound took longer to reach the mics than the image. But it's easy to correct just by modifying a delay parameter upon reauthoring.


Darryl

[juneau]

BTW, if you demux the audio, re-encode the video, the 5.1 audio remains unchanged and should still sync up perfectly. However, my experience with audience-shot videos is that the audio is always a bit off-sync. That's because the sound took longer to reach the mics than the image. But it's easy to correct just by modifying a delay parameter upon reauthoring.


Darryl

I have seen that quite often. Thankfully this time it was shot very close to the stage so the audio delay is minimal. ReJig did the trick. I have however lost the menu. Is there a way of reinserting the menu vob/ifo/bup? and realigning the chapters? Or should i just start a new one from scratch.

I had to use file mode in ReJig as when i tried using IFO mode, which would have been my preference, it displayed "could not parse ifo"

edit:

It will load from the VTS_01_0.ifo but not the Video_TS.ifo

Ahh i see that mode is for main movie only. Trying the dvd backup mode now.

[bendixG15]

Okay ..... learn us.

Just what is the meaning of "bootleg" as used in the OP ??

[juneau]

a few quotes.

A bootleg recording (or simply bootleg or boot) is an audio and/or video recording of a performance that was not officially released by the artist, or under other legal authority. A great many such recordings are simply copied and traded among fans of the artist without financial exchange, but some bootleggers are able to sell these rarities for profit, sometimes by adding professional-quality sound engineering and packaging to the raw material.

Bootlegging is often incorrectly referred to as piracy but there are important differences between the two terms. Bootlegging is trafficking in recordings that the record companies have not commercially released, whereas piracy is the illegal copying/sale of recordings that are (or have been) available commercially or are planned/scheduled for commercial release.

[redwudz]

Unfortunately, 'bootleg' is sometimes a misused term. Our glossary links it to an illegal act. But in this case, it appears legitimate. Some music groups release or approve what is called a 'bootleg' for their fans. In their case, they are referring to a non-commercial recording that is done with their permission.

Probably better just not to use the term.

[bendixG15]

Well, here's what Wikipedia says about Bootleg

Bootlegging is an informal term for smuggling, sale or transport of illicit goods. While it originally described the illegal transport and sale of alcoholic beverages on which excise taxes had not been paid (derived from a method of hiding alcohol in flasks in the shanks of a boot), it now refers more broadly to the transportation or sale of many types of pirated, counterfeit, black market, grey market or parallel import goods.

Look up bootleg in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.Bootleg may refer to:

Bootlegging, the smuggling or sale of illicit items
Bootlegging or rum-running, the sale or transport of liquor without regard to legal regulations and taxes
Bootleg liquor or moonshine, illegally produced alcoholic beverages
Bootleg recording, an otherwise unavailable audio or video recording distributed without the artist's consent

(I'm going to bed .... end of story)

[juneau]

Well, here's what Wikipedia says about Bootleg

Bootlegging is an informal term for smuggling, sale or transport of illicit goods. While it originally described the illegal transport and sale of alcoholic beverages on which excise taxes had not been paid (derived from a method of hiding alcohol in flasks in the shanks of a boot), it now refers more broadly to the transportation or sale of many types of pirated, counterfeit, black market, grey market or parallel import goods.

Look up bootleg in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.Bootleg may refer to:

Bootlegging, the smuggling or sale of illicit items
Bootlegging or rum-running, the sale or transport of liquor without regard to legal regulations and taxes
Bootleg liquor or moonshine, illegally produced alcoholic beverages
Bootleg recording, an otherwise unavailable audio or video recording distributed without the artist's consent

(I'm going to bed .... end of story)

Something makes me think that you are trying your best to prove it is illegal.

[dphirschler]

I don't know how to save the menu, other than to re-create it. But that is just my inexperience in that area showing through. Which tool are you planning on using for re-authoring?


Darryl

[bendixG15]

Well, here's what Wikipedia says about Bootleg

Bootlegging is an informal term for smuggling, sale or transport of illicit goods. While it originally described the illegal transport and sale of alcoholic beverages on which excise taxes had not been paid (derived from a method of hiding alcohol in flasks in the shanks of a boot), it now refers more broadly to the transportation or sale of many types of pirated, counterfeit, black market, grey market or parallel import goods.

Look up bootleg in Wiktionary, the free dictionary.Bootleg may refer to:

Bootlegging, the smuggling or sale of illicit items
Bootlegging or rum-running, the sale or transport of liquor without regard to legal regulations and taxes
Bootleg liquor or moonshine, illegally produced alcoholic beverages
Bootleg recording, an otherwise unavailable audio or video recording distributed without the artist's consent

(I'm going to bed .... end of story)

Something makes me think that you are trying your best to prove it is illegal.

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All I"m trying to show is that on my side of the pond, a bootleg DVD is taken as an illegal DVD by most people.
On your side of the pond, it has a diferent meaning.

I just want you to understand why I called it as an illegal DVD.
That is all, nothing personal in this.
So we all learned a little.
Its done and over.

[juneau]

I get you now. No hard feelings i hope.

I'll probably use TDA to author as it's the only authoring software i know how to use.

Thanks for all the help. It's worked out a treat.