sorry yet another pio question

[Butters1972]

ok i have been reading the past few days for many hours tried everything ive sen and still stuck in pio. I have tried reinsall of windows (x3),built a new pc,3 differnt brands of dvdrw drives,firmware,uninstalling primary ide channel,reg hack,cables,atapi drivers etc. after the ide channel is reinstalled the 1 drive says ultra dma mode 4 and the other ultra dma mode 2. the 4 is my 16x and the 2 is my 8x. the second i put in a dvd (any dvd) i see the drive working but nothing happens wait about 10 seconds and then look back in the DM and it says PIO. this is driving me nuts. it does it on 3 differnt drives. tested the drives on another computer...work fine. sometimes even my 16x just removes itself from the DM after the 10 seconds. im just about to give up so if im missing something please let me know.

[budz]

If you're using the Nvidia chipset drivers uninstall it then let windows install the microsoft drivers. Usually on the mobo cd you do have a choice of installing Nvidia controller drivers, just don't install it. Make sure you don't have RAID enabled, if you do just disable it in the BIOS. I assume you have all of your dvd burners on the 1 ide port of your mobo. Make sure you have the settings on the dvd burners correctly. What are the brands of your 3 dvd burners?

[Butters1972]

wont uninstalling the chipset drivers affect my gaming performance and disable the ability of using sli?

drive brands are plextor,lite on and hival

only have one ide channel on my mobo

raid is disabled

if i cat get this workin ya think that a sata burner would be just as good? im assuming it doesnt have the dma/pio issues that ide has

[budz]

wont uninstalling the chipset drivers affect my gaming performance and disable the ability of using sli?

drive brands are plextor,lite on and hival

only have one ide channel on my mobo

raid is disabled

if i cat get this workin ya think that a sata burner would be just as good? im assuming it doesnt have the dma/pio issues that ide has

The chipset driver for your ide controller is what controls your ide port. By using the microsoft ide drivers will not affect your gaming performance. There are known issues with using the NVIDIA ide chipset drivers with some dvd burners. If you want the easy way out then buy the SAMSUNG 183L SATA DVD burner and you'll have no problems with ide controllers. I have 2 mobo's that have NVIDIA ide chipset controllers but I didn't install them since there are known issues. I just installed the microsoft ide controllers and no problems with DMA/PIO.

[winifreid]

It sounds more like a cable problem to me.

[jman98]

Butters1972 - There is a known "feature" in XP where an IDE slave burner will time out after a ridiculously short period of time and set itself to PIO mode. I had this happen to me. The only fix that worked for me was to use RegEdit and edit the Windows registry. I have to warn you that if you have never edited the Windows registry before, you may not want to do this. However, if you think this will help you, send me a PM and when I get home I'll send you the instructions.

[Butters1972]

ive already uninstalled my primary ide,secondary ide and standard duel channel pci ide controllers. apon reboot as soon as it finds the dvd drives they are on pio from the start.

only chipset drivers i see are the nvidia nforce 590/570/550 serial ata controllers

am i looking in the right spot?

as for the cables im sure they are fine tested them on another computer (2 different ones)

ill have to pm you tomorrow says I need to wait a day

[budz]

only chipset drivers i see are the nvidia nforce 590/570/550 serial ata controllers

in device manager under IDE ATA/ATAPI CONTROLLERS look for NVIDIA NFORCE IDE CONTROLLERS and uninstall it. under the CONTROL PANEL go to ADD/REMOVE you can see if the NVIDIA NFORCE drivers are installed. If they are then uninstall it and reboot the pc which should then install the MICROSOFT IDE drivers.

by uninstalling the ide primary and so forth will do nothing because the NVIDIA NFORCE drivers are installed on your pc. remove the NVIDIA NFORCE drivers and your dvd burners be in UDMA mode.

[Butters1972]

only drivers i see in the control panel are nvidia drivers (thinking thats my vid card) ntune and nvidia forceware network access manager. under ide ata/atapi controllers i see 3 nvidia nforce 590/570/550 serial ata controllers, 1 primary ide channel,1 secondary channel, and the standard duel channel pci ide controller...thats it.

it says the driver is the microsoft 5.1.2600.2180 for my primary IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers

[Butters1972]

ok reformatted, didnt load the nvidea chipset drivers.....still in PIO, 16x drive is in PIO the 8x drive is in ultra dma 2. minute i put anything in the drive it reverts back to PIO again

[winifreid]

When I said cable, I meant it might not be properly seated on either end. Try pressing it firmly.

[Butters1972]

I know its not the connection.

I just basically gave up. spent way to many hours on this. gonna go get a sata burner. thanks for all the suggestions.

[budz]

you should have just bought a brand new 80 wire ide cable before deciding to buy a sata burner. some sata dvd burners have issues with certain mobo chipsets. i have a SAMSUNG 183L SATA drive that works fine with a INTEL 945 chipset mobo.

[Butters1972]

tried 2 brand new 80 wire and 2 40 wire (1 used 1 new) actually havent bought the new drive yet. gonna do some homework. definately not gonna go ide thats for sure.

the board im using id the bfg nforce 680i sli