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    Hey,I'm new to the forums but I have been doing a lot of reading on here.Great site for info!!I recently bought a ATI TV Wonder 650 capture card & am really pleased with it.I am in the process of converting my VHS wrestling stuff to DVD,and am wanting to record in the best possible quality (8000 kbps) and using VBR to convert to DVD (an average of maybe 1 hr 40 minutes per show after editing out commercials).It seem when I capture,the files split after 4 gig.I know that the FAT32 system will cut off at the 4 gig mark,but I am running NTFS file system.Is it the ATI card's software that's cutting off my files (I'm using the softwawre that came with the card) or is there a setting in XP that I have overlooked?Thanks for any info from the experts here!
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    Most likely, it's something in the capture card software. Some software uses 4GB file sizes by default so they don't get complaints from FAT32 users.

    BTW, if you are capping from a VHS source, you probably won't see any difference in quality if you cap at 6000kbps or even lower. I use 1/2 D1 DVD format for VHS and cap at ~3000 - 4000kbps and it about looks the same, I just get a lot more on the DVD. VHS is fairly low quality in the first place, so higher bitrate won't help much.

    You might want to expirement a little with a short representative clip to try some alternate encoder settings.

    And welcome to our forums.
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    By default, most software comes with a 4GB limit. Go change it. If this is ATI MMC, it's under the initialization wizard, the very last step.
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    Originally Posted by lordsmurf
    By default, most software comes with a 4GB limit. Go change it. If this is ATI MMC, it's under the initialization wizard, the very last step.
    Unfortunately,I have ATI Catalyst Media Center and I don't see the option to edit filesize limits
    Is it better to record in lower resolution and higher bitrate
    352 x 480 7000 - 8000 kbps as opposed to 720 x 480 5000 - 6000 kbps?
    I look at the VBR of the Panasonic DMR-ES40V I used to have and the range goes between 3000 all the way up to 8000 kbps.I could fit 2hrs SP on there easy,yet the ATI capture card (recording 'better' quality - 6000 kbps)I struggle to fit 90 minutes on a DVD without re-encoding (which is why I want the best possible bitrate when it re-encodes to DVD files and want to go beyond the 4 GB limit when it captures)
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  5. Originally Posted by Breakpack
    Is it better to record in lower resolution and higher bitrate
    352 x 480 7000 - 8000 kbps as opposed to 720 x 480 5000 - 6000 kbps?
    Generally yes for VHS but it depends on the source,if there's lots of motion and you only want ~1hr of video per DVD then select 7000-8000kbps.
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    Originally Posted by MOVIEGEEK
    Originally Posted by Breakpack
    Is it better to record in lower resolution and higher bitrate
    352 x 480 7000 - 8000 kbps as opposed to 720 x 480 5000 - 6000 kbps?
    Generally yes for VHS but it depends on the source,if there's lots of motion and you only want ~1hr of video per DVD then select 7000-8000kbps.
    Well,it is old wrestling tapes.WWE,WCW,etc. and generally they are 1hr 40 minutes (after editing out commercials),so I was going to capture at 8000 kbps,re-encode with VBR and burn to DVD.Does anyone have a preference as to encoding software for high motion?I like Ulead VideoStudio.TMPGEnc DVD Author gets me mixed results as I see artifacting during fast movements (after 2 pass VBR).Any recommendations?Thanks!
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    By any chance did you convert to NTFS after you installed ATI Catalyst Media Center? If per chance you did, you might try uninstalling and reinstalling your ATI Catalyst Media Center. It could be that it set itself up based on your system configuration at the time you installed it.

    If your system has always been NTFS, you might still try uninstalling and reinstalling it and see if it asks for any configuration options when you install it that might have to do with the 4GB issue.
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    My file system has been NTFS.I have a 250 gig hard drive and I think if windows detects 80 gig or higher hard drive,it'll automatically assigns the NTFS file system.I'll try out uninstalling and reinstalling again.

    Edit: I reinstalled and let it record a 2 and a half hour program.It split up the fies in 4 gig chunks (2) So I get an hour for a 4 gig file (mpeg2 @ 8000 kbps) .I might use it as a workaround and re encode that way using VBR,unless I look into capturing via avi,but again I hope filesize doesn't cutt off at the 4gb mark....hmmmmm
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