How can I remove the adverts at the end of encore western channel recording

[jay garrick]

Hello,
I record a lot of westens from encore western channel and hate the way they shrink up the credits at the end of their movies to let you know what is coming next. Is there any software I might try that will remove this irratation? I know it isn't a big deal but I hate it when they do this. I think they do this to all encore stations.

[guns1inger]

To cut it off, or to crop and resize the credits ?

[redwudz]

If the size and position of them doesn't change, you could use a cropping filter like VirtualDub Mod has and crop out everything but the credits. Then resize the credits that are left back to the original frame size. This will have some quality loss from the resizing and re-encoding, but should not be as noticeable in the credits.

In VDM, pick the 'Resize' filter and what resize settings you want, then 'OK', then the cropping feature will become available. Save out with full processing to the same AVI format as the original.

This would work much better if your video was in a AVI type format, as VDM only outputs AVI, and you would have to re-encode it once again if you wanted MPEG. If it's MPEG, someone else may have some ideas.

And welcome to our forums.

[jay garrick]

Hello,
The way they do this is the credits start out at normal size then shrink through the middle two-thirds of them and then regain their correct size again right at the end of the movie. I have tried virtual dub with minimal success on this problem. I think virtual dub would be the correct solution if the problem wasn't animated.

[jay garrick]

Hello,
Thanks for welcoming me to your forum. I hope I may be able to help someone else when I am here. Dose anyone have any more sugestions for my problem?
Sincerely,
Jay Garrick

[DarrellS]

From the title of your post, it sounds like you want to cut the credits completely out.

You don't say what format these movies are captured in.

You can cut the credits off at the end of the movie and use the brightness filter with a blend in Virtualdub 1.7.2 and use the curve editor to fade to black. Using full processing mode with smart render will direct stream copy an AVI while recoding the fade to black at the end.

If it's mpeg then you can frameserve to TMPGEnc and get the same effect or you could cut the file into parts, fade to black where you want with an advanced video editor and then join the parts back together. This way you only recode the transition.

You can open the audio in an audio editor and fade out the end to match the fade to black if you'd like.

[jay garrick]

Hello,
I am sorry about not giving the imformation that was needed. I can capture in MPEG or AVI whichever is the better format. I am going to try your sugestion and thank you for it. My problem has been on credits with a background behind them espeacily the tv programs that encore shows and I record. They start about a quarter of the way into them shrinking them for their coming next blurb and then stretch them out again at the end. I think I need a program that will allow frame by frame cropping then resizing. Dose sush a program exsist?
I know thats asking a lot so it may not. Thanks for your sugestion.
Sincerely,
Jay Garrick

[redwudz]

There are programs that allow tracking of a moving image, but you would still have the problem resizing at each change. It would be a lot of time and work involved and likely some expense to purchase a high end program if you wanted to automate the tracking and cropping. And I don't know which program would do the tracking part, offhand.

But you could experiment with VirtualDub Mod and see what would be involved. DV format would give you every frame as a keyframe and allow frame by frame editing. I add the Panasonic DV codec for that.

[kimco52]

You can try what everyone suggests.
They are doing what is called a squeeze. They do it through a DVE generator. Basically, it takes the main video and places it over another video. Then they squeeze the on top video to any position/size/shape they want and then they have their "next" or whatever on the background video and it does whatever they want it to do.
You see this used a lot on all networks, news, etc.
Since you would be doing the above on video, you will lose resolution when you expand it back to normal size after cropping it.

I wish they would not do it because you can't read any of the credits but everyone does it and there is really nothing that you can do about it.
Same thing where they insert their watermarks/bugs in the (usually) bottom right corner.

[DarrellS]

I'm with kimco on this. The network has already destroyed the credits and any attempt to try and fix them will leave you with an undesirable finished product. IMO, a fadeout at the end would be the best and most simple option.

If you still want to try it then I would use Virtualdub 1.7.1 or 1.7.2 and use the smart render option. The newest version of VirtualdubMod is two years old and will not get any more updates whereas Virtualdub is getting better and better with every build.

I would cut the movie in three parts.

Using smart render with fast recompress on the first part ( the movie and the credits that are full size ) will direct stream copy everything except for where the keyframe is missing and encode just that small section.

I would use the null transform filter to crop the second part ( the credits that need to be cropped and resized ). Use the resize filter ( the new versions will keep the aspect ratio so you'll need to keep cropping until you get the aspect ratio right ) to get the cropped section the same size as the rest of the movie. This part you will need to use full processing mode and encode the whole section that needs to be resized.

Use the same options as you used in part one to ensure that only the section without keyframes get encoded and the rest is direct stream copied.

After all three sections have been made then you can append them together and direct stream copy to get your finished file.