HELP! capture DV to DVD! After compression only get 1 hour on a dvd

[frankguru2]

Problem! DV capture file using Roxio 8, Ahead Nero 7ultra or Windows Media Center max compression is for file size is 4.5gb and that is only 1 hour on the DVD. If I reduce the image quality it gets very pixeled.

I need to know if there is way to get more hours on a single layer DVD without degrading the vid quality. Is there GUIDE that explains the step from Cature to encoding to burning? If so please point me in the right direction if possible.

current set on windows media center (XP version)
NTCS best quality, full Display

When I capture to less quality, even a minor drop, the video quality goes to hell in a hand basket.

How in the world does the media industry get a 3 hour movie on a DVD?


Thanks very much.
I have spent over $300 in software, I hope I have the right ones in Roxio 8 & Nero7 Ultra with all the Pluggins.

[MJA]

frankguru2 said "How in the world does the media industry get a 3 hour movie on a DVD? "

the media they use is DVD-RAM I think .it's capacity like DL

[BobK]

How in the world does the media industry get a 3 hour movie on a DVD?

I have spent over $300 in software, I hope I have the right ones in Roxio 8 & Nero7 Ultra with all the Pluggins.

The media industry generally spends significantly more than $300 on software. That helps them get a 3 hour movie on DVD.

I hope I have the right ones in Roxio 8 & Nero7 Ultra with all the Pluggins.

Everyone would have their own opinion on that. I'm not crazy about Nero, but it has its supporters. I don't know many people that are crazy about Roxio.

[mats.hogberg]

I don't get it: DV is like 13 GB/hour, not 4.5 What exactly are you doing? What are you capturing? Using what hardware?

/Mats

[frankguru2]

Sorry Mat


Hardware PC with XP Pro 32 bit w/ SP2. Windows Media Center already captures in .WMV file compressed from 12gb to like 4.4 to 4.6gb. I am wondering about burning to a single layer DVD. What is the max video I am gonna get on the DVD? It is about 1 hour being captured NTCS format that I used in Windows Media Center. According to other folks.

When I choose lower frame rates then the pictures are not acceptable to me. And I am not interested D2 for this project.

I have had a few emailed responses. And people are telling me I can encode at a lower bit rate to get more hours on the DVD, but that will degrade the vid quality that I need.

If anyone has any other thought I would be very thankfull.

THis Forum rules.

[guns1inger]

Filesize = Running Time X Bitrate

This is a universal constant. You want more on, use a lower bitrate (and eventually compromise quality to some degree to get it).

Do not fall for the trap of comparing apples with oranges when it comes to codecs. Mpeg4 based codecs (of which WMV is one) use around one third to one half of that bitrate mpeg2 requires to maintain only a slightly inferior (in most cases) image quality.

Altering framerates to reduce size is a false economy, as you have found.

The best option, when going from DV to DVD, is to transfer as DV at 13GB/hour, then edit and encode to DVD compliant mpeg-2 using the correct bitrate. If this is done properly, you should be able to get good quality up to around the 80 - 90 minute mark if you have normal DV footage, perhaps more if it is well lit and films with a tripod.

If you want longer, use DL discs.

[jagabo]

Note also that movie studios don't start with noisy wibbly wobbly VHS tapes or noisy shakey handheld camcorder footage. Noise and excessive motion are killers for MPEG encoding because it relies in large part on only encoding the differences between frames.