TY media.

[RonBoy]

Is anyone still selling TY media.

All of the Sony and Fujifilm I'm seeing around here are MIT. Anyone finding these brands MIJ.

also-anyone getting RICOHJAPAN and if so what brand?

Ron

[Richard_G]

www.svp.co.uk stock TY media but as you don't bother putting where you are in your profile, where is 'around here'?

[RonBoy]

www.svp.co.uk stock TY media but as you don't bother putting where you are in your profile, where is 'around here'?

When I checked my profile it says USA. Don't know why you didn't see that so I added my state to it. That mat help.

[Laddydaddy]

Supermediastore and Rima.com are both selling TY media.

http://www.supermediastore.com/taiyo-yuden-dvd-r-media.html

http://www.rima.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=R&Category_Code=DMRTY

[piano632]

Maxell's *Plus* and *Broadcast Quality* DVD-R are made in Japan. Not sure if they are made by Maxell or TY, but definitely in Japan. The *Broadcast Quality* discs have a scratch-resistant coating applied which makes them more expensive ($1.85 per disc) than the "Plus" ones ($.43 per disc).

http://www.tapeonline.com/DVD-R/Maxell_DVD-RSS_47GP_8X_Shiny_Silver.aspx
http://www.tapeonline.com/DVD-R/Maxell_DVD-R_47_8X_Broadcast_Quality.aspx

[OneSickPup]

Is anyone still selling TY media.

All of the Sony and Fujifilm I'm seeing around here are MIT. Anyone finding these brands MIJ.

also-anyone getting RICOHJAPAN and if so what brand?

Ron

I'm to your south and have found no Fuji or Sony branded TY in B&M stores for about a year now. The previous poster is correct - online ordering through Rima or Supermediastore is your best choice in this part of the US anyways. Good luck.

[MJA]

Is anyone still selling TY media.

All of the Sony and Fujifilm I'm seeing around here are MIT. Anyone finding these brands MIJ.

also-anyone getting RICOHJAPAN and if so what brand?

Ron

I'm to your south and have found no Fuji or Sony branded TY in B&M stores for about a year now. The previous poster is correct - online ordering through Rima or Supermediastore is your best choice in this part of the US anyways. Good luck.

my 8X Fuji are TY ,but Fuji DL are total crap(I'm stuck with 15 of them)

there is a deal at office depot 100 Maxell 16X $22.99 if some one like to buy and check the code for us

[16/9]

In Canada : www.blankmedia.ca

[hech54]

Just get(original Yaiyo Yuden media) them from www.rima.com and be done with it.

[budz]

there is a deal at office depot 100 Maxell 16X $22.99 if some one like to buy and check the code for us

Maxell 100 pack spindle is not "MADE IN JAPAN", it's RITEK crap media. Maxell has outsourced their dvd media to RITEK for the last 1 1/2 years. Just look at the spindle and you'll see it's "MADE IN TAIWAN".

As others have mentioned just buy TAIYO YUDEN from www.rima.com.

[oldandinthe way]

If you want to buy the DVD media that is offered weekly at the big box stores, it will be necessary to buy a DVDwriter which is more tolerant of variations in media.

The DVD-R and DVD+R consortia certify media as compatible which meet their specifications. Both specifications make requirements of the drives to accommodate the media. These accommodations are known as a "write strategy" and are contained in firmware. Hence the need for firmware updates to accommodate new media.

Neither consortia actually requires testing with all of the media offered, so it is possible for a drive to have inaccurate "write strategies" for some media, and even to be unable to create certain write strategies.

My personal experience and other reports on the net show that many LG DVD-writers report fewer problems with "low-grade" media than other brands. There are other brands and specific models within some brands which also seem to report fewer problems.

With the cost of a new DVDwriter in the same league as a 100 DVD spindle you can make choices as to how you want to shop for media.

When it comes to optical media, no assumption appears to be absolute, including the assumption that TY media will work on every writer. There have been recent posts on this site about inability to burn 16x TYs.

[oldfart13]

The problem with the newer LGs is that they seem to make good writers but poor rippers. I've had nothing but problems backing up discs with any type of surface impediments with my H22L while my old Pioneer 104 and my friend's H10 seem to have few problems at all. I'm getting tired of having to run over to his house to rip discs that came out of my DVD recorders because of some minor surface scratch. Looking at something else in the near future. Also, LG seems to have forgot about us H22L owners as there still isn't any firmware update.

[bbanderic]

If you want to buy the DVD media that is offered weekly at the big box stores, it will be necessary to buy a DVDwriter which is more tolerant of variations in media.

The DVD-R and DVD+R consortia certify media as compatible which meet their specifications. Both specifications make requirements of the drives to accommodate the media. These accommodations are known as a "write strategy" and are contained in firmware. Hence the need for firmware updates to accommodate new media.

Neither consortia actually requires testing with all of the media offered, so it is possible for a drive to have inaccurate "write strategies" for some media, and even to be unable to create certain write strategies.

My personal experience and other reports on the net show that many LG DVD-writers report fewer problems with "low-grade" media than other brands. There are other brands and specific models within some brands which also seem to report fewer problems.

With the cost of a new DVDwriter in the same league as a 100 DVD spindle you can make choices as to how you want to shop for media.

When it comes to optical media, no assumption appears to be absolute, including the assumption that TY media will work on every writer. There have been recent posts on this site about inability to burn 16x TYs.

Nothing's absolute, yes, but I would never buy a burner with supporting low grade media in mind. If someone is dead set on buying media from big box stores than they should go with Verbatim, the odds of finding TY is slim-none these days. Otherwise buy TY from Rima if you care about quality and preserving your memories.

I have an NEC (3520) and Pioneer (111) burner, both considered excellent burners and I've had no trouble ripping the very limited amount of crap media thrown at it.

Using cheap media is just not worth it, unless someone is a newbie and don't know any better, I don't know why anyone would even consider it, especially since Verbatim and TY can be had for just about the same price.

[oldandinthe way]

I experience is only with Renassas chipset LGs (3 different models). They are great writers. I suspected some ripping problems. What I have found is running a cleaning wipe over borrowed disks has improved well over 90% of my problem CDs and DVDs and made them rippable. I also discovered that some of these unrecognized disks on my older 4163 read on my H10N and on my laptop drive (whose model number I have a block on).

Timing is everything about updates. When the drive was made obvously affects what media is supported in the firmware. The H22L is a relatively recent drive and might not have hit critical mass of changes.

Lightscribe capable drives do not seem to be getting the same attention from LG than the same drive without Lightscribe. But I haven't actually seen anyone identify what media they can't write with the H22L in their posts. That is except for Ritek DVD+RDL which most drives can't burn. I have to admit that Lightscribe capability is not high on my want list, and certainly not consistant with a goal of burning the low priced media on special at the big box stores. If I owned an H22L - I'd probably crossflash it with H22N updates and lose the Lightscribe.

When I bought the H10 I considered the H22 models and rejected them because I had had postitive history with the Rennassas chipset and none with the Matsushita.

There's an exception to every rule and it looks like your H22L is one.

[budz]

The H22L drive I owned for about 3weeks. I didn't like the burns so I sold it with a computer I built for someone. It's a known fact that LG burners are not good readers. I have to with bbanderic why would anyone want to buy a dvd burner w/low grade media in mind. Low grade media sure will be inexpensive but when they begin to degrade over a period of time then the disc will no longer be readable. Rule of thumb is to use good quality dvd media like VERBATIM & TY. Nuff said!

[oldandinthe way]

Although lots of effort and history has gone into classifying media into various grades, it may no longer be relevant to anyone other than people owning drives which were developed during an earlier period. Or it may only be relevant to users with aftermarket drives.

DVD media is sold by many companies with long term and serious brand commitments to quality. Some of them even sell so-called "crap" media under their name. All of this media meets appropriate standards.

DVDwriters are standard equipment on almost all major PC makers product lines.

The economics of the computer industry have not changed. Manufacturers of both PCs and media cannot afford tech support calls and warranty claims.

The profit margins on a PC are low enough so that one warranty claim for service can eliminate the profit on several PCs sold.

Retailers do not want returns on low ticket products they sell, so both the PCs and the media have to work together.

Surprisingly enough they do.

Its not that you choose a DVDwriter to be able to buy bigbox store product. Like the PC makers you choose a drive to make you not care about what media you buy.

I get big box store returns. Recently the most common brand has been SONY DVD-R. I have not had a coaster on any of the returned media for many months.

As for arguments about the life of burned media, posters on this forum are willing to make much more definitive judgments that are the industry bodies charged with the task.

[negritude]

Is anyone still selling TY media.

There is only ONE retail place left that has TY media: Sears.

They usually have Sony 8x +R MIJ media in 50-packs, which is always Taiyo Yuden.

Sears also has the only remaining stock of Maxell 8x MIJ media. The store I was in today, where I was cleaning out the TYs, had ten 50-packs of 8x MIJ Maxells.

In either case, you can use the sale prices at other stores to get a 110% price match at Sears.

Outside of that, you'll have to go mailorder and buy from Rima or SuperMediaStore.

[bevills1]

Will Sears price match price for 16x at Office Depot on their the 8x Sony? Also in another forum a post stated some 16x Sony are TY and that the way to know is the Sony's which are TY have an octagonal styrofoam spacer on top and round spacer is not TY. Does anybody know if that's accurate or not?

[oldandinthe way]

Nobody price matches other store's private label with name-branded product.

And no one is likely to advertise 8x product. Clearance areas are the only places to find 8x media in retail stores today.

Go on a hunt, pay the price marked or order online while you still can.

All of my 16x Sony are made in Taiwan - they ain't TY. They have a round spacer

[OneSickPup]

Nobody price matches other store's private label with name-branded product.

I agree but I don't think that is what bevills1 meant by his post. I'm guessing here but I think he meant the Office Depot offer of $12.99 per 50 on Sony 16x and whether he could go to Sears and price match to some of their 8x Sony MIJ media they are purported to have. First of all I know little about price-matching as I have never done it. Secondly - good luck on finding a Sears that has Sony MIJ anything. None in my area do.

[oldandinthe way]

That wouldn't happen either. Stores insist on the identical product for price matching,and do not match rebates. They also may have other restrictions like only matching "bricks and mortar" retailers in a particular geographic area.

A well managed retail store would have liquidated its 8x inventory at the point when it could not reorder because the channel had switched to 16x. Many Sears stores are well-managed.

[bevills1]

The Office Depot offer of $12.99 per 50 on Sony 16x is what I meant, and that's out the door without any rebate. I purchased 1 pack of the OD Sony, and receipt shows only Sony 50 pack DVD without showing the 16x. Do you think I could use the receipt to price match at Sears, i.e. if Sears has any 8x left or any 16x with the octagonal spacer?

[oldandinthe way]

The office depot receipt usually shows a UPC or SKU. Normally a match is needed with the product. If they would take the receipt.

In my experiences, stores require the printed ad (not even a printout from the website). The picture shows the product is 16x. Usually stores will not match price if the packaging differs.

I take advantage of prices matches with some frequency. The standards are much higher than they were some years ago, because people have gone out of their way to try to scam the retailers.

You can decide for yourself whether what you are trying to do is within the intentions of their price match policy. If it isn't you can expect resistance to accomodating you.

[bevills1]

As it turns out these 16x Sony discs (media code SONYD21) are a solution I'd been seeking, i.e. Mintek MDP 1010 portable player will not play recordings on Verbatim -R 8x or Playo +R 16x at all and plays Ridata +R 8x but with stop and skip during play. All other players play same media recordings without problems, but these Sony discs are only ones found to play perfectly on the Mintek player. They may not be TYs, but they'll do nicely. I'll buy more especially since Office Depot is only 5 miles compared to 25 miles to Sears even if Sears would price match.

[negritude]

Will Sears price match price for 16x at Office Depot on their the 8x Sony? Also in another forum a post stated some 16x Sony are TY and that the way to know is the Sony's which are TY have an octagonal styrofoam spacer on top and round spacer is not TY. Does anybody know if that's accurate or not?

Yes, Sears will price match, but it's always easier if you can find an ad that does not mention the speed of the disks, since some of the reps are anally retentive, and try to reject price matches based on inconsequential minutiae.

The fact of the matter is, the UPC for the Sony 8x and 16x disks is the same, so for all intent and purposes, they are the same product in the computer system.

Also, if you have a receipt from another store, you can use that to price match as well. Lots of places will accept a receipt as proof of a price. I did that at Sears just recently.

Yes, if you find an octagonal foam spacer on Sony media, that is a definite indicator of TY media, no matter what the speed, but most of the 16x TY media has disappeared from stores, so it will be almost impossible to find. The only real chance you have right now is to look for older 8x media at Sears. That's the only place that has any TY left.

[lordsmurf]

The problem with the newer LGs is that they seem to make good writers but poor rippers. .

The LG in my laptop is like this. It reads very slowly, and it's rejected some of my CD-R for no reason. It's not just my drive, I've been able to reproduce the problem on a number of LG laptop burners in the past few months.

[budz]

It's been a well known fact that LG are poor at ripping.

[OneSickPup]

The LG in my laptop is like this. It reads very slowly, and it's rejected some of my CD-R for no reason. It's not just my drive, I've been able to reproduce the problem on a number of LG laptop burners in the past few months.

I have a GWA 4082N in a Gateway Laptop that fits this description. It's the pickiest drive I've ever owned as far as reading. It just flat refuses to read DVD-RW of any kind. Pretty decent burn quality though. All the other LG's (full-size) I've used like the 4167B, H10N, H12N and H22N have been decent readers, just slower than most drives. You definitely might want to avoid if ripping is a big issue as every one I've had has been riplocked.

[BJ_M]

i have a MATSHITA_DVD-RAM_UJ-851S in my laptop ---- it also super super slow at ripping ..... love to speed that sucker up

[hech54]

Are there ANY good laptop drives?