Need help with American animation AutoGK conversion -- log posted inside

[bloomcounty]

Hi -- I'm trying to convert my Ben 10 episodes rips to .avi with AutoGK to fit them all on one disc. Normally I've been making 22min. cartoon episodes at about 180mb, but since I'm only putting 13 shows on a disc, I increased the size to 300mb. I used cartoon mode with my first attempt.

With playback on my computer, I notice that any camera pans are stuttery looking, but everything else looked pretty good/clear. But I think there's a better way to do this. Here is the log, and my questions are further below:

[3/9/2007 12:29:54 AM] AutoGK 2.40
[3/9/2007 12:29:54 AM] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[3/9/2007 12:29:54 AM] Job started.
[3/9/2007 12:29:54 AM] Input file: C:\DVD Rips\BEN10_S1_01\VTS_01_0.IFO
[3/9/2007 12:29:54 AM] Output file: C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\BEN10_S1_01.avi
[3/9/2007 12:29:54 AM] Output codec: XviD
[3/9/2007 12:29:54 AM] Audio 1: English AC3 2ch
[3/9/2007 12:29:54 AM] Subtitles: none
[3/9/2007 12:29:54 AM] Format: AVI
[3/9/2007 12:29:54 AM] Target size: 300Mb
[3/9/2007 12:29:54 AM] Audio 1 settings: Auto
[3/9/2007 12:29:54 AM] Standalone support enabled: ESS
[3/9/2007 12:29:54 AM] Started encoding.
[3/9/2007 12:29:54 AM] Demuxing and indexing.
[3/9/2007 12:31:10 AM] Processing file: C:\DVD Rips\BEN10_S1_01\VTS_01_1.VOB
[3/9/2007 12:31:10 AM] Processing file: C:\DVD Rips\BEN10_S1_01\VTS_01_2.VOB
[3/9/2007 12:31:10 AM] Source resolution: 720x480
[3/9/2007 12:31:10 AM] Found NTSC source.
[3/9/2007 12:31:10 AM] Source aspect ratio: 4:3
[3/9/2007 12:31:10 AM] Analyzing source.
[3/9/2007 12:32:14 AM] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 40.98
[3/9/2007 12:32:14 AM] Source has percentage of telecined patterns: 92.23
[3/9/2007 12:32:14 AM] Source has percentage of progressive patterns: 3.11
[3/9/2007 12:32:14 AM] Source has percentage of interlaced patterns: 4.66
[3/9/2007 12:32:14 AM] Source is considered to be hybrid (mostly FILM).
[3/9/2007 12:32:14 AM] Looking for optimal hybrid thresholds.
[3/9/2007 12:32:28 AM] Found threshold of: 1.41
[3/9/2007 12:32:28 AM] Output will contain 32991 frames
[3/9/2007 12:32:28 AM] Decoding audio.
[3/9/2007 12:32:58 AM] Normalizing audio.
[3/9/2007 12:33:34 AM] Encoding audio.
[3/9/2007 12:36:28 AM] Using cartoon mode.
[3/9/2007 12:36:28 AM] Audio1 size: 19,445,760 bytes (18.54 Mb)
[3/9/2007 12:36:28 AM] Overhead: 1,319,680 bytes (1.26 Mb)
[3/9/2007 12:36:28 AM] Video size: 293,807,360 bytes (280.20 Mb)
[3/9/2007 12:36:28 AM] Running compressibility test.
[3/9/2007 12:36:28 AM] Writing the following script to C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\agk_tmp\BEN10_S1_01_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\agk_tmp\BEN10_S1_01.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = (input_par > 1.4) || (input_par < 1.25) ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=3,threshold=1.41)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
SelectRangeEvery(214,15)
===========================================================
[3/9/2007 12:38:49 AM] Duration was: 2 minutes 20 seconds
[3/9/2007 12:38:49 AM] Speed was: 16.38 fps.
[3/9/2007 12:38:49 AM] Compressibility percentage is: 101.98
[3/9/2007 12:38:49 AM] Using sharper matrix
[3/9/2007 12:38:49 AM] Chosen resolution is: 720x544 ( AR: 1.32 )
[3/9/2007 12:38:49 AM] Predicted comptest value is: 72.23%
[3/9/2007 12:38:49 AM] Running first pass.
[3/9/2007 12:38:49 AM] Writing the following script to C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\agk_tmp\BEN10_S1_01_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\agk_tmp\BEN10_S1_01.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = (input_par > 1.4) || (input_par < 1.25) ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 720
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=3,threshold=1.41)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
===========================================================
[3/9/2007 1:02:22 AM] Duration was: 23 minutes 32 seconds
[3/9/2007 1:02:22 AM] Speed was: 23.36 fps.
[3/9/2007 1:02:22 AM] Expected quality of first pass size: 82.70%
[3/9/2007 1:02:22 AM] Running second pass.
[3/9/2007 1:35:38 AM] Duration was: 33 minutes 16 seconds
[3/9/2007 1:35:38 AM] Speed was: 16.53 fps.
[3/9/2007 1:35:38 AM] Job finished. Total time: 1 hour, 5 minutes 44 seconds

Questions:

1. Will I get a better picture quality by making the final files 300mb instead of 180mb as I did above? Or would it be better quality-wise to actually make them smaller?

1a. If the original resolution is 720x480 and the original aspect ratio is 4:3, then why is the generated aspect ratio 720x544? I'm guessing it has something to do with choosing a target size of 300mb, but why would the 720 be the same, but the 480 be 544? Does this mean the picture is getting cut off in my final file when it's forced to 4:3?

2. Should I continue to use cartoon mode to do this show? It's not as simple as The Simpsons, but it's not as complex as anime. It's kind of like Justice League Unlimited or Batman: The Animated Series as far was complexity of the animation.

3. Should I be using "Force normal IVTC method"? I see that the content is "considered to be hybrid (mostly FILM)" -- and when I did my Animaniacs discs, that was also the case (though not always "FILM"), and it was suggested I use the IVTC thing with that. Or maybe I don't need that here? Does my log tell you if I do?

3a. Would it help with the stuttering on the pans? I think I got that anyways on Animaniacs even using the IVTC thing. The rest of the motion in the animation on the Ben 10 conversion looks pretty good (no stuttering -- just on the pans).

Any help is appreciated -- thanks!

[bloomcounty]

An additional question:

4. Would I be better off choosing "Maximum Width" instead of "Auto Width" if I'm going for higher quality anyways and put 720 in the field there? Or stay with "Auto Width" (but still put 720 in the field)?

Thanks!

[RabidDog]

The smaller the filesize the smaller the quality.
Why not test it out for yo'self? use your eyes & your friends eyes as the judge.
Set up 10 or 20 encodes with varying (output) filesizes and change one other option only (autowidth,fixedwith, 720,640,480)
Then come back and report your findings, you may learn "the secret"

[bloomcounty]

The smaller the filesize the smaller the quality.
Why not test it out for yo'self? use your eyes & your friends eyes as the judge.
Set up 10 or 20 encodes with varying (output) filesizes and change one other option only (autowidth,fixedwith, 720,640,480)
Then come back and report your findings, you may learn "the secret"

Because the smarter thing seems to be to post and see if someone has had the same experience and can offer helpful advice. But if no one can do that, then I guess the only other option is to try it all out. But why not eliminate options to start with, if possible, eh? Seems only logical.

So if the show is 22 minutes long, how can I convert just like 10 seconds of it?

Thanks for the post.

[t0nee1]

" So if the show is 22 minutes long, how can I convert just like 10 seconds of it?"

I doubt you'll be able to convert and have a working /visual 10 sec. clip...
But open source DVD in shrink re-author mode, backup a few min. of a title using the start/end frame feature, save and convert to avi as you would normally.
Or you can use VirtualDub load your avi, and use the start and end frame feature and save again.
play using MPC to test.....
Diff. ways of doing it .. see how to and tools section to your left....good luck!!!!

[manono]

Hi-

1. Yes, with a DVD source, the larger file size and resulting resolution will give you better quality. There's not much point in going over 640x480, in my opinion, but both would be better than, say, 512x384, which you might get with a 180MB file size.

1a. DVDs are (usually) resized for AVI based on whether they're 4:3 or 16:9. Almost all retail NTSC DVDs are 720x480 (1.5:1), but your DVD has a DAR (Display Aspect Ratio) of 4:3, and gets resized to a 1.33:1 ratio (ignoring widescreen 4:3 DVDs). 720/544=1.32:1.

2. As I think I said in another thread of yours, I have never used Cartoon Mode. Up to you. Do one using it and another without it and see if one looks better to you.

3. I don't know if you should Force IVTC, although I think you probably should. I (we) would need a short sample of both the source and the finished AVI at a place that shows the problems of which you're speaking. 10 seconds or so should be plenty.

3a. Pans often show up any problems with the encode. Again, though, samples would be nice. A picture is worth a thousand words.

4. With this one, 720 is what you're going to get in any event. It compresses very well.

So if the show is 22 minutes long, how can I convert just like 10 seconds of it?

Not using AutoGK you can't. Not easily anyway. It's a simple matter if you know how to use an AviSynth script file directly in VDubMod. But since it only takes you an hour for a whole episode, and maybe 35 minutes if you were to do a quick 1-pass Target Quality encode, it's not as if you'll be waiting all that long for results.

[bloomcounty]

1. Yes, with a DVD source, the larger file size and resulting resolution will give you better quality. There's not much point in going over 640x480, in my opinion, but both would be better than, say, 512x384, which you might get with a 180MB file size.

1-1. Why not go over 640x480? I'm just curious for the reasoning. Will I just not see any difference visually?

1-2. So should I just figure out what the final file size would be to get 640x480 and use that as my Target Size? (It's not too difficult to figure it out -- a bit of math and a test run or two...)

1a. DVDs are (usually) resized for AVI based on whether they're 4:3 or 16:9. Almost all retail NTSC DVDs are 720x480 (1.5:1), but your DVD has a DAR (Display Aspect Ratio) of 4:3, and gets resized to a 1.33:1 ratio (ignoring widescreen 4:3 DVDs). 720/544=1.32:1.

1a-1. I'm a little confused by this. So, *technically*, when it gets resized to the 1.33:1 (well, really, the 1.32:1, right?), and even when it just displays it when watching the original DVD at 4:3, is part of the picture getting cut off? Or is the 1.5:1 original image slightly "stretched" vertically to start with, so the displayed DAR of 4:3 shows the correct image (and no cropping)? If it's the first case, I'd rather have a little bit of letterboxing than lose part of the image. If it's the second, then, obviously I'd just want it as it shows it, in 4:3. Do you know what I mean?

4. With this one, 720 is what you're going to get in any event. It compresses very well.

4-1. Do you mean that because the compression is good (i.e. "high percentage", right?), at my target file size, it will be 720 because it's high enough to retain the original AR?

Thanks!

[manono]

Hi-

1-1. a 4:3 720x480 DVD gets resized to 640x480 (480 x (4/3) = 640). The original pixels are non-square. You have a height of 480 rows of pixels. By converting that to 544 you're interpolating. You're not creating any new detail. Will you see any difference visially at 720x544? I don't think so. And because of the interpolation - because of the resizing in 2 directions instead of one had it been made into 640x480 - it may actually look worse. But the chances are 720x544 will look much like 640x480.

1-2. You could just force a 640 width in the Advanced Settings section. Or, again, you could make a couple of AVIs at the 2 different resolutions and compare. These are minute differences we're talking about. The chances are good that you won't be able to tell them apart.

1a-1. No, nothing gets cut off. Well, to keep the AR a few pixels may get cut off. Or maybe there was some black on the sides that was cropped off. But what really happens is that it gets resized. If you were to look at the raw 720x480 vobs, unresized, as they'll look in DGIndex or VDubMod, then for an NTSC 4:3 DVD, everything is slightly squashed or flattened (compressed vertically). People look a little shorter and fatter. Balls and suns are slight ovals. When resized to 640x480 or 720x544, people look "normal" again and round things are round again.

Although this is mostly about 16:9 DVDs, it may help you get a handle on DAR:

http://www.doom9.org/aspectratios.htm

4-1. It has a 720 width because that's as high as AutoGK goes unless you force a higher width. Your requested file size was high enough for that particular source that it chose a 720 width. High percentage, yes. But it's going to retain the original AR in any event. That's 1.33:1. So whether it decides on 512x384, 576x432, 640x480, or 720x544, to give a few examples of 1.33:1 ratios, it always keeps the AR.

[bloomcounty]

Hey, this all makes sense! Thanks!

So forcing a 640 will give me the same exact results as if I figured out the target size that would give me a 640 on its own?

[manono]

Like I said, you can choose a 640 width in the Advanced Settings. You don't have to figure anything. There's at least a fair chance, though, that it won't reach a 300 MB final size. Or do a 1-pass Target Quality encode, with a chosen width of 640. You'll get your results much more quickly.

[bloomcounty]

Okay, so I did three different conversions and I'm back to being slightly confused.

The three I did (with some results from the log with each) are:

Custom Size 300mb - Fixed width 640 FINAL SIZE: 286.594MB

• Video size: 293,807,360 bytes (280.20 Mb)
  Compressibility percentage is: 101.98
  Predicted comptest value is: 92.09%
  Expected quality of first pass size: 96.73%

Custom Size 250mb - Fixed width 640 FINAL SIZE: 256.054MB

• Video size: 241,378,560 bytes (230.20 Mb)
  Compressibility percentage is: 83.78
  Predicted comptest value is: 75.66%
  Expected quality of first pass size: 79.47%

Custom Size 220mb - Auto width FINAL SIZE: 225,342
(w/640 still in the window; this is the one I figured out what size would generate 640 on its own)

• Video size: 209,921,280 bytes (200.20 Mb)
  Compressibility percentage is: 72.86
  Predicted comptest value is: 72.86%
  Expected quality of first pass size: 69.11%

So what is the difference between the three of these, result-wise? And which is "better". Yes, I know it's subjective to a degree and you like to see samples (which I don't have the means to do), so can you tell me what the difference is "on paper" and which would be the best quality file "on paper" based on the log info? (I need to pick one of these so I can then do the visual tests for the one I choose to determine if I'll use cartoon mode or force normal IVTC method, etc. Trying to do that for each of these options is just too much...)

Plus, I want to understand what the difference is and why here, you know? Thanks very much! I appreciate it!

Full logs are below:

Custom Size 300mb - Fixed width 640

[3/9/2007 10:49:16 PM] AutoGK 2.40
[3/9/2007 10:49:16 PM] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[3/9/2007 10:49:16 PM] Job started.
[3/9/2007 10:49:16 PM] Input file: C:\DVD Rips\BEN10_S1_01\VTS_01_0.IFO
[3/9/2007 10:49:16 PM] Output file: C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\640_c_ni(300).avi
[3/9/2007 10:49:16 PM] Output codec: XviD
[3/9/2007 10:49:16 PM] Audio 1: English AC3 2ch
[3/9/2007 10:49:16 PM] Subtitles: none
[3/9/2007 10:49:16 PM] Format: AVI
[3/9/2007 10:49:16 PM] Target size: 300Mb
[3/9/2007 10:49:16 PM] Custom resolution settings: fixed width of 640 pixels
[3/9/2007 10:49:16 PM] Audio 1 settings: Auto
[3/9/2007 10:49:16 PM] Standalone support enabled: ESS
[3/9/2007 10:49:16 PM] Started encoding.
[3/9/2007 10:49:16 PM] Demuxing and indexing.
[3/9/2007 10:50:08 PM] Processing file: C:\DVD Rips\BEN10_S1_01\VTS_01_1.VOB
[3/9/2007 10:50:08 PM] Processing file: C:\DVD Rips\BEN10_S1_01\VTS_01_2.VOB
[3/9/2007 10:50:08 PM] Source resolution: 720x480
[3/9/2007 10:50:08 PM] Found NTSC source.
[3/9/2007 10:50:08 PM] Source aspect ratio: 4:3
[3/9/2007 10:50:08 PM] Analyzing source.
[3/9/2007 10:51:09 PM] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 40.98
[3/9/2007 10:51:09 PM] Source has percentage of telecined patterns: 92.23
[3/9/2007 10:51:09 PM] Source has percentage of progressive patterns: 3.11
[3/9/2007 10:51:09 PM] Source has percentage of interlaced patterns: 4.66
[3/9/2007 10:51:09 PM] Source is considered to be hybrid (mostly FILM).
[3/9/2007 10:51:09 PM] Looking for optimal hybrid thresholds.
[3/9/2007 10:51:20 PM] Found threshold of: 1.41
[3/9/2007 10:51:20 PM] Output will contain 32991 frames
[3/9/2007 10:51:20 PM] Decoding audio.
[3/9/2007 10:51:51 PM] Normalizing audio.
[3/9/2007 10:52:09 PM] Encoding audio.
[3/9/2007 10:55:02 PM] Using cartoon mode.
[3/9/2007 10:55:02 PM] Audio1 size: 19,445,760 bytes (18.54 Mb)
[3/9/2007 10:55:02 PM] Overhead: 1,319,680 bytes (1.26 Mb)
[3/9/2007 10:55:02 PM] Video size: 293,807,360 bytes (280.20 Mb)
[3/9/2007 10:55:02 PM] Running compressibility test.
[3/9/2007 10:55:02 PM] Writing the following script to C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\agk_tmp\640_c_ni(300)_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\agk_tmp\640_c_ni(300).d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = (input_par > 1.4) || (input_par < 1.25) ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=3,threshold=1.41)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
SelectRangeEvery(214,15)
===========================================================
[3/9/2007 10:57:22 PM] Duration was: 2 minutes 19 seconds
[3/9/2007 10:57:22 PM] Speed was: 16.58 fps.
[3/9/2007 10:57:22 PM] Compressibility percentage is: 101.98
[3/9/2007 10:57:22 PM] Using sharper matrix
[3/9/2007 10:57:22 PM] Chosen resolution is: 640x480 ( AR: 1.33 )
[3/9/2007 10:57:22 PM] Predicted comptest value is: 92.09%
[3/9/2007 10:57:22 PM] Running first pass.
[3/9/2007 10:57:22 PM] Writing the following script to C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\agk_tmp\640_c_ni(300)_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\agk_tmp\640_c_ni(300).d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = (input_par > 1.4) || (input_par < 1.25) ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=3,threshold=1.41)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
===========================================================
[3/9/2007 11:14:43 PM] Duration was: 17 minutes 20 seconds
[3/9/2007 11:14:43 PM] Speed was: 31.70 fps.
[3/9/2007 11:14:43 PM] Expected quality of first pass size: 96.73%
[3/9/2007 11:14:43 PM] Running second pass.
[3/9/2007 11:39:03 PM] Duration was: 24 minutes 19 seconds
[3/9/2007 11:39:03 PM] Speed was: 22.60 fps.
[3/9/2007 11:39:03 PM] Job finished. Total time: 49 minutes 46 seconds

Custom Size 250mb - Fixed width 640

[3/9/2007 9:30:53 PM] AutoGK 2.40
[3/9/2007 9:30:53 PM] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[3/9/2007 9:30:53 PM] Job started.
[3/9/2007 9:30:53 PM] Input file: C:\DVD Rips\BEN10_S1_01\VTS_01_0.IFO
[3/9/2007 9:30:53 PM] Output file: C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\640_c_ni.avi
[3/9/2007 9:30:53 PM] Output codec: XviD
[3/9/2007 9:30:53 PM] Audio 1: English AC3 2ch
[3/9/2007 9:30:53 PM] Subtitles: none
[3/9/2007 9:30:53 PM] Format: AVI
[3/9/2007 9:30:53 PM] Target size: 250Mb
[3/9/2007 9:30:53 PM] Custom resolution settings: fixed width of 640 pixels
[3/9/2007 9:30:53 PM] Audio 1 settings: Auto
[3/9/2007 9:30:53 PM] Standalone support enabled: ESS
[3/9/2007 9:30:53 PM] Started encoding.
[3/9/2007 9:30:53 PM] Demuxing and indexing.
[3/9/2007 9:31:43 PM] Processing file: C:\DVD Rips\BEN10_S1_01\VTS_01_1.VOB
[3/9/2007 9:31:43 PM] Processing file: C:\DVD Rips\BEN10_S1_01\VTS_01_2.VOB
[3/9/2007 9:31:43 PM] Source resolution: 720x480
[3/9/2007 9:31:43 PM] Found NTSC source.
[3/9/2007 9:31:43 PM] Source aspect ratio: 4:3
[3/9/2007 9:31:43 PM] Analyzing source.
[3/9/2007 9:32:40 PM] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 40.98
[3/9/2007 9:32:40 PM] Source has percentage of telecined patterns: 92.23
[3/9/2007 9:32:40 PM] Source has percentage of progressive patterns: 3.11
[3/9/2007 9:32:40 PM] Source has percentage of interlaced patterns: 4.66
[3/9/2007 9:32:40 PM] Source is considered to be hybrid (mostly FILM).
[3/9/2007 9:32:40 PM] Looking for optimal hybrid thresholds.
[3/9/2007 9:32:55 PM] Found threshold of: 1.41
[3/9/2007 9:32:55 PM] Output will contain 32991 frames
[3/9/2007 9:32:55 PM] Decoding audio.
[3/9/2007 9:33:28 PM] Normalizing audio.
[3/9/2007 9:33:49 PM] Encoding audio.
[3/9/2007 9:36:33 PM] Using cartoon mode.
[3/9/2007 9:36:33 PM] Audio1 size: 19,445,760 bytes (18.54 Mb)
[3/9/2007 9:36:33 PM] Overhead: 1,319,680 bytes (1.26 Mb)
[3/9/2007 9:36:33 PM] Video size: 241,378,560 bytes (230.20 Mb)
[3/9/2007 9:36:33 PM] Running compressibility test.
[3/9/2007 9:36:33 PM] Writing the following script to C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\agk_tmp\640_c_ni_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\agk_tmp\640_c_ni.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = (input_par > 1.4) || (input_par < 1.25) ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=3,threshold=1.41)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
SelectRangeEvery(214,15)
===========================================================
[3/9/2007 9:38:44 PM] Duration was: 2 minutes 10 seconds
[3/9/2007 9:38:44 PM] Speed was: 17.70 fps.
[3/9/2007 9:38:44 PM] Compressibility percentage is: 83.78
[3/9/2007 9:38:44 PM] Using sharper matrix
[3/9/2007 9:38:44 PM] Chosen resolution is: 640x480 ( AR: 1.33 )
[3/9/2007 9:38:44 PM] Predicted comptest value is: 75.66%
[3/9/2007 9:38:44 PM] Running first pass.
[3/9/2007 9:38:44 PM] Writing the following script to C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\agk_tmp\640_c_ni_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\agk_tmp\640_c_ni.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = (input_par > 1.4) || (input_par < 1.25) ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=3,threshold=1.41)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
===========================================================
[3/9/2007 9:54:51 PM] Duration was: 16 minutes 6 seconds
[3/9/2007 9:54:51 PM] Speed was: 34.13 fps.
[3/9/2007 9:54:51 PM] Expected quality of first pass size: 79.47%
[3/9/2007 9:54:51 PM] Running second pass.
[3/9/2007 10:17:21 PM] Duration was: 22 minutes 30 seconds
[3/9/2007 10:17:21 PM] Speed was: 24.44 fps.
[3/9/2007 10:17:21 PM] Job finished. Total time: 46 minutes 27 seconds

Custom Size 220mb - Auto width

[3/9/2007 11:44:01 PM] AutoGK 2.40
[3/9/2007 11:44:01 PM] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[3/9/2007 11:44:01 PM] Job started.
[3/9/2007 11:44:01 PM] Input file: C:\DVD Rips\BEN10_S1_01\VTS_01_0.IFO
[3/9/2007 11:44:01 PM] Output file: C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\640_c_ni(220).avi
[3/9/2007 11:44:01 PM] Output codec: XviD
[3/9/2007 11:44:01 PM] Audio 1: English AC3 2ch
[3/9/2007 11:44:01 PM] Subtitles: none
[3/9/2007 11:44:01 PM] Format: AVI
[3/9/2007 11:44:01 PM] Target size: 220Mb
[3/9/2007 11:44:01 PM] Audio 1 settings: Auto
[3/9/2007 11:44:01 PM] Standalone support enabled: ESS
[3/9/2007 11:44:01 PM] Started encoding.
[3/9/2007 11:44:01 PM] Demuxing and indexing.
[3/9/2007 11:44:55 PM] Processing file: C:\DVD Rips\BEN10_S1_01\VTS_01_1.VOB
[3/9/2007 11:44:55 PM] Processing file: C:\DVD Rips\BEN10_S1_01\VTS_01_2.VOB
[3/9/2007 11:44:55 PM] Source resolution: 720x480
[3/9/2007 11:44:55 PM] Found NTSC source.
[3/9/2007 11:44:55 PM] Source aspect ratio: 4:3
[3/9/2007 11:44:55 PM] Analyzing source.
[3/9/2007 11:45:51 PM] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 40.98
[3/9/2007 11:45:51 PM] Source has percentage of telecined patterns: 92.23
[3/9/2007 11:45:51 PM] Source has percentage of progressive patterns: 3.11
[3/9/2007 11:45:51 PM] Source has percentage of interlaced patterns: 4.66
[3/9/2007 11:45:51 PM] Source is considered to be hybrid (mostly FILM).
[3/9/2007 11:45:51 PM] Looking for optimal hybrid thresholds.
[3/9/2007 11:46:01 PM] Found threshold of: 1.41
[3/9/2007 11:46:01 PM] Output will contain 32991 frames
[3/9/2007 11:46:01 PM] Decoding audio.
[3/9/2007 11:46:30 PM] Normalizing audio.
[3/9/2007 11:46:45 PM] Encoding audio.
[3/9/2007 11:49:28 PM] Using cartoon mode.
[3/9/2007 11:49:28 PM] Audio1 size: 19,445,760 bytes (18.54 Mb)
[3/9/2007 11:49:28 PM] Overhead: 1,319,680 bytes (1.26 Mb)
[3/9/2007 11:49:28 PM] Video size: 209,921,280 bytes (200.20 Mb)
[3/9/2007 11:49:28 PM] Running compressibility test.
[3/9/2007 11:49:28 PM] Writing the following script to C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\agk_tmp\640_c_ni(220)_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\agk_tmp\640_c_ni(220).d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = (input_par > 1.4) || (input_par < 1.25) ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=3,threshold=1.41)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
SelectRangeEvery(214,15)
===========================================================
[3/9/2007 11:51:38 PM] Duration was: 2 minutes 9 seconds
[3/9/2007 11:51:38 PM] Speed was: 17.79 fps.
[3/9/2007 11:51:38 PM] Compressibility percentage is: 72.86
[3/9/2007 11:51:38 PM] Chosen resolution is: 640x480 ( AR: 1.33 )
[3/9/2007 11:51:38 PM] Predicted comptest value is: 72.86%
[3/9/2007 11:51:38 PM] Running first pass.
[3/9/2007 11:51:38 PM] Writing the following script to C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\agk_tmp\640_c_ni(220)_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\agk_tmp\640_c_ni(220).d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = (input_par > 1.4) || (input_par < 1.25) ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=3,threshold=1.41)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
===========================================================
[3/10/2007 12:07:48 AM] Duration was: 16 minutes 9 seconds
[3/10/2007 12:07:50 AM] Speed was: 34.01 fps.
[3/10/2007 12:07:53 AM] Expected quality of first pass size: 69.11%
[3/10/2007 12:07:53 AM] Running second pass.
[3/10/2007 12:30:25 AM] Duration was: 22 minutes 29 seconds
[3/10/2007 12:30:25 AM] Speed was: 24.44 fps.
[3/10/2007 12:30:25 AM] Job finished. Total time: 46 minutes 24 seconds

[manono]

The only difference between the 3 is the file size, and the somewhat lesser, but still excellent, quality you got as the sizes got smaller. None of this has anything to do with determining if you should Force IVTC or not, or if you should use Cartoon Mode or not.

[bloomcounty]

The only difference between the 3 is the file size, and the somewhat lesser, but still excellent, quality you got as the sizes got smaller. None of this has anything to do with determining if you should Force IVTC or not, or if you should use Cartoon Mode or not.

Gotcha. So if I'm only fitting 13 shows (+ a couple smaller extras) on one dvd, I might as well make them the larger size, right? The fact that the 300mb one starts off at 101% compressibility is okay, right? It being *over* 100% and having to be reduced doesn't do something "bad"?

What does that mean that it's over 100%?

Thanks!

[manono]

Hi-

What does that mean that it's over 100%?

It means it can't hit the desired file size with the settings it uses to run the compress test. So, it adjusts some things before running the "real" passes.

To get it done more quickly, you may as well encode using 1-pass Target Quality. I don't think you're in any danger of running oversized.

[bloomcounty]

Hi-

What does that mean that it's over 100%?

It means it can't hit the desired file size with the settings it uses to run the compress test. So, it adjusts some things before running the "real" passes.

To get it done more quickly, you may as well encode using 1-pass Target Quality. I don't think you're in any danger of running oversized.

How do I do the 1-pass Target Quality? Do I just put 100% into that option (Target Quality = xxx%) instead of picking a target size, and still choose 640 in the forced width advance setting? Or is there a different percentage I should use?

What do you mean by the danger of running oversized?

I first went with 290mb target size and did conversions of the first four episodes, with a forced width of 640. Episodes 2-4 did not have the same compression test results for some reason. Here's a summary of the results:

Episode 1
Compressibility percentage is: 98.34
Predicted comptest value is: 88.80%
Expected quality of first pass size: 93.28%
Final size: 284,686kb

Episode 2
Compressibility percentage is: 64.99
Predicted comptest value is: 64.99%
Expected quality of first pass size: 60.70%
Final size: 296,866kb

Episode 3
Compressibility percentage is: 74.37
Predicted comptest value is: 74.37%
Expected quality of first pass size: 75.22%
Final size: 297,022kb

Episode 4
Compressibility percentage is: 82.52
Predicted comptest value is: 74.51%
Expected quality of first pass size: 78.43%
Final size: 297,006kb

So why are the results so different if the settings were the same?

Seeing these varying results, do you think it's still best to do the 1-pass Target thing for all of them?

Thanks!

Full logs are below:

Episode 1:

[3/11/2007 12:46:04 PM] AutoGK 2.40
[3/11/2007 12:46:04 PM] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[3/11/2007 12:46:04 PM] Job started.
[3/11/2007 12:46:04 PM] Input file: C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\BEN10_S1_01\VTS_01_0.IFO
[3/11/2007 12:46:04 PM] Output file: C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\tests\y-c_n-iv(290).avi
[3/11/2007 12:46:04 PM] Output codec: XviD
[3/11/2007 12:46:04 PM] Audio 1: English AC3 2ch
[3/11/2007 12:46:04 PM] Subtitles: none
[3/11/2007 12:46:04 PM] Format: AVI
[3/11/2007 12:46:04 PM] Target size: 290Mb
[3/11/2007 12:46:04 PM] Custom resolution settings: fixed width of 640 pixels
[3/11/2007 12:46:04 PM] Audio 1 settings: Auto
[3/11/2007 12:46:04 PM] Standalone support enabled: ESS
[3/11/2007 12:46:04 PM] Started encoding.
[3/11/2007 12:46:04 PM] Demuxing and indexing.
[3/11/2007 12:46:47 PM] Processing file: C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\BEN10_S1_01\VTS_01_1.VOB
[3/11/2007 12:46:47 PM] Processing file: C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\BEN10_S1_01\VTS_01_2.VOB
[3/11/2007 12:46:47 PM] Source resolution: 720x480
[3/11/2007 12:46:47 PM] Found NTSC source.
[3/11/2007 12:46:47 PM] Source aspect ratio: 4:3
[3/11/2007 12:46:47 PM] Analyzing source.
[3/11/2007 12:47:43 PM] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 40.98
[3/11/2007 12:47:43 PM] Source has percentage of telecined patterns: 92.23
[3/11/2007 12:47:43 PM] Source has percentage of progressive patterns: 3.11
[3/11/2007 12:47:43 PM] Source has percentage of interlaced patterns: 4.66
[3/11/2007 12:47:43 PM] Source is considered to be hybrid (mostly FILM).
[3/11/2007 12:47:43 PM] Looking for optimal hybrid thresholds.
[3/11/2007 12:47:55 PM] Found threshold of: 1.41
[3/11/2007 12:47:55 PM] Output will contain 32991 frames
[3/11/2007 12:47:55 PM] Decoding audio.
[3/11/2007 12:48:23 PM] Normalizing audio.
[3/11/2007 12:48:55 PM] Encoding audio.
[3/11/2007 12:51:39 PM] Using cartoon mode.
[3/11/2007 12:51:39 PM] Audio1 size: 19,445,760 bytes (18.54 Mb)
[3/11/2007 12:51:39 PM] Overhead: 1,319,680 bytes (1.26 Mb)
[3/11/2007 12:51:39 PM] Video size: 283,321,600 bytes (270.20 Mb)
[3/11/2007 12:51:39 PM] Running compressibility test.
[3/11/2007 12:51:39 PM] Writing the following script to C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\tests\agk_tmp\y-c_n-iv(290)_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\tests\agk_tmp\y-c_n-iv(290).d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = (input_par > 1.4) || (input_par < 1.25) ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=3,threshold=1.41)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
SelectRangeEvery(214,15)
===========================================================
[3/11/2007 12:53:49 PM] Duration was: 2 minutes 9 seconds
[3/11/2007 12:53:49 PM] Speed was: 17.85 fps.
[3/11/2007 12:53:49 PM] Compressibility percentage is: 98.34
[3/11/2007 12:53:49 PM] Using sharper matrix
[3/11/2007 12:53:49 PM] Chosen resolution is: 640x480 ( AR: 1.33 )
[3/11/2007 12:53:49 PM] Predicted comptest value is: 88.80%
[3/11/2007 12:53:49 PM] Running first pass.
[3/11/2007 12:53:49 PM] Writing the following script to C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\tests\agk_tmp\y-c_n-iv(290)_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\tests\agk_tmp\y-c_n-iv(290).d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = (input_par > 1.4) || (input_par < 1.25) ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=3,threshold=1.41)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
===========================================================
[3/11/2007 1:09:54 PM] Duration was: 16 minutes 5 seconds
[3/11/2007 1:09:54 PM] Speed was: 34.18 fps.
[3/11/2007 1:09:54 PM] Expected quality of first pass size: 93.28%
[3/11/2007 1:09:54 PM] Running second pass.
[3/11/2007 1:32:20 PM] Duration was: 22 minutes 25 seconds
[3/11/2007 1:32:20 PM] Speed was: 24.51 fps.
[3/11/2007 1:32:20 PM] Job finished. Total time: 46 minutes 16 seconds

Episode 2

[3/11/2007 4:02:50 PM] AutoGK 2.40
[3/11/2007 4:02:50 PM] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[3/11/2007 4:02:50 PM] Job started.
[3/11/2007 4:02:50 PM] Input file: C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\BEN10_S1_02\VTS_01_0.IFO
[3/11/2007 4:02:50 PM] Output file: C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\Ben 10 (Season 1) Final\Ben10_02.avi
[3/11/2007 4:02:50 PM] Output codec: XviD
[3/11/2007 4:02:50 PM] Audio 1: English AC3 2ch
[3/11/2007 4:02:50 PM] Subtitles: none
[3/11/2007 4:02:50 PM] Format: AVI
[3/11/2007 4:02:50 PM] Target size: 290Mb
[3/11/2007 4:02:50 PM] Custom resolution settings: fixed width of 640 pixels
[3/11/2007 4:02:50 PM] Audio 1 settings: Auto
[3/11/2007 4:02:50 PM] Standalone support enabled: ESS
[3/11/2007 4:02:50 PM] Started encoding.
[3/11/2007 4:02:50 PM] Demuxing and indexing.
[3/11/2007 4:03:35 PM] Processing file: C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\BEN10_S1_02\VTS_01_1.VOB
[3/11/2007 4:03:35 PM] Processing file: C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\BEN10_S1_02\VTS_01_2.VOB
[3/11/2007 4:03:35 PM] Source resolution: 720x480
[3/11/2007 4:03:35 PM] Found NTSC source.
[3/11/2007 4:03:35 PM] Source aspect ratio: 4:3
[3/11/2007 4:03:35 PM] Analyzing source.
[3/11/2007 4:04:33 PM] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 38.83
[3/11/2007 4:04:33 PM] Source has percentage of telecined patterns: 92.96
[3/11/2007 4:04:33 PM] Source has percentage of progressive patterns: 4.02
[3/11/2007 4:04:33 PM] Source has percentage of interlaced patterns: 3.02
[3/11/2007 4:04:33 PM] Source is considered to be hybrid (mostly FILM).
[3/11/2007 4:04:33 PM] Looking for optimal hybrid thresholds.
[3/11/2007 4:04:45 PM] Found threshold of: 1.58
[3/11/2007 4:04:45 PM] Output will contain 32967 frames
[3/11/2007 4:04:45 PM] Decoding audio.
[3/11/2007 4:05:18 PM] Normalizing audio.
[3/11/2007 4:05:54 PM] Encoding audio.
[3/11/2007 4:08:35 PM] Using cartoon mode.
[3/11/2007 4:08:35 PM] Audio1 size: 19,546,488 bytes (18.64 Mb)
[3/11/2007 4:08:35 PM] Overhead: 1,318,656 bytes (1.26 Mb)
[3/11/2007 4:08:35 PM] Video size: 283,221,896 bytes (270.10 Mb)
[3/11/2007 4:08:35 PM] Running compressibility test.
[3/11/2007 4:08:35 PM] Writing the following script to C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\Ben 10 (Season 1) Final\agk_tmp\Ben10_02_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\Ben 10 (Season 1) Final\agk_tmp\Ben10_02.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = (input_par > 1.4) || (input_par < 1.25) ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=3,threshold=1.58)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
SelectRangeEvery(214,15)
===========================================================
[3/11/2007 4:10:47 PM] Duration was: 2 minutes 12 seconds
[3/11/2007 4:10:47 PM] Speed was: 17.41 fps.
[3/11/2007 4:10:47 PM] Compressibility percentage is: 64.99
[3/11/2007 4:10:47 PM] Chosen resolution is: 640x480 ( AR: 1.33 )
[3/11/2007 4:10:47 PM] Predicted comptest value is: 64.99%
[3/11/2007 4:10:47 PM] Running first pass.
[3/11/2007 4:10:47 PM] Writing the following script to C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\Ben 10 (Season 1) Final\agk_tmp\Ben10_02_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\Ben 10 (Season 1) Final\agk_tmp\Ben10_02.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = (input_par > 1.4) || (input_par < 1.25) ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=3,threshold=1.58)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
===========================================================
[3/11/2007 4:27:18 PM] Duration was: 16 minutes 30 seconds
[3/11/2007 4:27:18 PM] Speed was: 33.28 fps.
[3/11/2007 4:27:18 PM] Expected quality of first pass size: 60.70%
[3/11/2007 4:27:18 PM] Running second pass.
[3/11/2007 4:51:03 PM] Duration was: 23 minutes 44 seconds
[3/11/2007 4:51:03 PM] Speed was: 23.14 fps.
[3/11/2007 4:51:03 PM] Job finished. Total time: 48 minutes 12 seconds

Episode 3

[3/11/2007 4:51:04 PM] AutoGK 2.40
[3/11/2007 4:51:04 PM] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[3/11/2007 4:51:04 PM] Job started.
[3/11/2007 4:51:04 PM] Input file: C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\BEN10_S1_03\VTS_01_0.IFO
[3/11/2007 4:51:04 PM] Output file: C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\Ben 10 (Season 1) Final\Ben10_03.avi
[3/11/2007 4:51:04 PM] Output codec: XviD
[3/11/2007 4:51:04 PM] Audio 1: English AC3 2ch
[3/11/2007 4:51:04 PM] Subtitles: none
[3/11/2007 4:51:04 PM] Format: AVI
[3/11/2007 4:51:04 PM] Target size: 290Mb
[3/11/2007 4:51:04 PM] Custom resolution settings: fixed width of 640 pixels
[3/11/2007 4:51:04 PM] Audio 1 settings: Auto
[3/11/2007 4:51:04 PM] Standalone support enabled: ESS
[3/11/2007 4:51:04 PM] Started encoding.
[3/11/2007 4:51:04 PM] Demuxing and indexing.
[3/11/2007 4:52:19 PM] Processing file: C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\BEN10_S1_03\VTS_01_1.VOB
[3/11/2007 4:52:19 PM] Processing file: C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\BEN10_S1_03\VTS_01_2.VOB
[3/11/2007 4:52:19 PM] Source resolution: 720x480
[3/11/2007 4:52:19 PM] Found NTSC source.
[3/11/2007 4:52:19 PM] Source aspect ratio: 4:3
[3/11/2007 4:52:19 PM] Analyzing source.
[3/11/2007 4:53:21 PM] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 38.51
[3/11/2007 4:53:21 PM] Source has percentage of telecined patterns: 97.95
[3/11/2007 4:53:21 PM] Source has percentage of progressive patterns: 2.05
[3/11/2007 4:53:21 PM] Source has percentage of interlaced patterns: 0.00
[3/11/2007 4:53:21 PM] Source is considered to be FILM.
[3/11/2007 4:53:21 PM] Output will contain 33114 frames
[3/11/2007 4:53:21 PM] Decoding audio.
[3/11/2007 4:53:49 PM] Normalizing audio.
[3/11/2007 4:54:22 PM] Encoding audio.
[3/11/2007 4:57:07 PM] Using cartoon mode.
[3/11/2007 4:57:07 PM] Audio1 size: 19,194,624 bytes (18.31 Mb)
[3/11/2007 4:57:07 PM] Overhead: 1,324,544 bytes (1.26 Mb)
[3/11/2007 4:57:07 PM] Video size: 283,567,872 bytes (270.43 Mb)
[3/11/2007 4:57:07 PM] Running compressibility test.
[3/11/2007 4:57:07 PM] Writing the following script to C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\Ben 10 (Season 1) Final\agk_tmp\Ben10_03_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\Ben 10 (Season 1) Final\agk_tmp\Ben10_03.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = (input_par > 1.4) || (input_par < 1.25) ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=0)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
SelectRangeEvery(214,15)
===========================================================
[3/11/2007 4:59:21 PM] Duration was: 2 minutes 14 seconds
[3/11/2007 4:59:21 PM] Speed was: 17.26 fps.
[3/11/2007 4:59:21 PM] Compressibility percentage is: 74.37
[3/11/2007 4:59:21 PM] Chosen resolution is: 640x480 ( AR: 1.33 )
[3/11/2007 4:59:21 PM] Predicted comptest value is: 74.37%
[3/11/2007 4:59:21 PM] Running first pass.
[3/11/2007 4:59:21 PM] Writing the following script to C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\Ben 10 (Season 1) Final\agk_tmp\Ben10_03_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\Ben 10 (Season 1) Final\agk_tmp\Ben10_03.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = (input_par > 1.4) || (input_par < 1.25) ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=0)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
===========================================================
[3/11/2007 5:15:37 PM] Duration was: 16 minutes 15 seconds
[3/11/2007 5:15:37 PM] Speed was: 33.93 fps.
[3/11/2007 5:15:37 PM] Expected quality of first pass size: 75.22%
[3/11/2007 5:15:37 PM] Running second pass.
[3/11/2007 5:38:20 PM] Duration was: 22 minutes 42 seconds
[3/11/2007 5:38:20 PM] Speed was: 24.31 fps.
[3/11/2007 5:38:20 PM] Job finished. Total time: 47 minutes 15 seconds

Episode 4

[3/11/2007 5:38:21 PM] AutoGK 2.40
[3/11/2007 5:38:21 PM] OS: WinXP (5.1.2600).2
[3/11/2007 5:38:21 PM] Job started.
[3/11/2007 5:38:21 PM] Input file: C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\BEN10_S1_04\VTS_01_0.IFO
[3/11/2007 5:38:21 PM] Output file: C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\Ben 10 (Season 1) Final\Ben10_04.avi
[3/11/2007 5:38:21 PM] Output codec: XviD
[3/11/2007 5:38:21 PM] Audio 1: English AC3 2ch
[3/11/2007 5:38:21 PM] Subtitles: none
[3/11/2007 5:38:21 PM] Format: AVI
[3/11/2007 5:38:21 PM] Target size: 290Mb
[3/11/2007 5:38:21 PM] Custom resolution settings: fixed width of 640 pixels
[3/11/2007 5:38:21 PM] Audio 1 settings: Auto
[3/11/2007 5:38:21 PM] Standalone support enabled: ESS
[3/11/2007 5:38:21 PM] Started encoding.
[3/11/2007 5:38:21 PM] Demuxing and indexing.
[3/11/2007 5:39:05 PM] Processing file: C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\BEN10_S1_04\VTS_01_1.VOB
[3/11/2007 5:39:05 PM] Processing file: C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\BEN10_S1_04\VTS_01_2.VOB
[3/11/2007 5:39:05 PM] Source resolution: 720x480
[3/11/2007 5:39:05 PM] Found NTSC source.
[3/11/2007 5:39:05 PM] Source aspect ratio: 4:3
[3/11/2007 5:39:05 PM] Analyzing source.
[3/11/2007 5:40:03 PM] Source has percentage of interlacing in motion areas: 40.64
[3/11/2007 5:40:03 PM] Source has percentage of telecined patterns: 93.55
[3/11/2007 5:40:03 PM] Source has percentage of progressive patterns: 4.52
[3/11/2007 5:40:03 PM] Source has percentage of interlaced patterns: 1.94
[3/11/2007 5:40:03 PM] Source is considered to be hybrid (mostly FILM).
[3/11/2007 5:40:03 PM] Looking for optimal hybrid thresholds.
[3/11/2007 5:40:13 PM] Found threshold of: 1.28
[3/11/2007 5:40:13 PM] Output will contain 33157 frames
[3/11/2007 5:40:13 PM] Decoding audio.
[3/11/2007 5:40:43 PM] Normalizing audio.
[3/11/2007 5:41:02 PM] Encoding audio.
[3/11/2007 5:43:47 PM] Using cartoon mode.
[3/11/2007 5:43:47 PM] Audio1 size: 19,337,592 bytes (18.44 Mb)
[3/11/2007 5:43:47 PM] Overhead: 1,326,336 bytes (1.26 Mb)
[3/11/2007 5:43:47 PM] Video size: 283,423,112 bytes (270.29 Mb)
[3/11/2007 5:43:47 PM] Running compressibility test.
[3/11/2007 5:43:47 PM] Writing the following script to C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\Ben 10 (Season 1) Final\agk_tmp\Ben10_04_comptest.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\Ben 10 (Season 1) Final\agk_tmp\Ben10_04.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = (input_par > 1.4) || (input_par < 1.25) ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=3,threshold=1.28)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
SelectRangeEvery(214,15)
===========================================================
[3/11/2007 5:45:56 PM] Duration was: 2 minutes 9 seconds
[3/11/2007 5:45:56 PM] Speed was: 17.97 fps.
[3/11/2007 5:45:56 PM] Compressibility percentage is: 82.52
[3/11/2007 5:45:56 PM] Using sharper matrix
[3/11/2007 5:45:56 PM] Chosen resolution is: 640x480 ( AR: 1.33 )
[3/11/2007 5:45:56 PM] Predicted comptest value is: 74.51%
[3/11/2007 5:45:56 PM] Running first pass.
[3/11/2007 5:45:56 PM] Writing the following script to C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\Ben 10 (Season 1) Final\agk_tmp\Ben10_04_movie.avs
===========================================================
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\autocrop.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\AutoGK\filters\RemoveGrainSSE3.dll")

movie = mpeg2source("C:\DVD Rips\Ben 10 (Season 1)\Ben 10 (Season 1) Final\agk_tmp\Ben10_04.d2v")
cropclip = autocrop(movie,mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=0,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
fixed_aspect = 0.888888888888889
c_width = width(cropclip)
c_height = round(height(cropclip) / fixed_aspect)
input_par = float(c_width)/float(c_height)
input_par = (input_par > 1.4) || (input_par < 1.25) ? input_par : (4.0/3.0)
out_width = 640
out_height = round(float(out_width) / input_par)
hmod = out_height - (floor(out_height / 16 ) * 16)
out_height = (hmod > 4) ? (out_height + (16 - hmod)) : (out_height - hmod)
new_aspect = (float(out_width) / float(out_height)) / fixed_aspect
Telecide(movie,guide=1,post=2).Decimate(mode=3,threshold=1.28)
autocrop(mode=0,wmultof=4,hmultof=4,samples=10,aspect=new_aspect,threshold=34,samplestartframe=0,leftadd=0,rightadd=0,topadd=0,bottomadd=0)
LanczosResize(out_width,out_height)
RemoveGrain(mode=2)
===========================================================
[3/11/2007 6:01:59 PM] Duration was: 16 minutes 2 seconds
[3/11/2007 6:01:59 PM] Speed was: 34.46 fps.
[3/11/2007 6:01:59 PM] Expected quality of first pass size: 78.43%
[3/11/2007 6:01:59 PM] Running second pass.
[3/11/2007 6:23:56 PM] Duration was: 21 minutes 57 seconds
[3/11/2007 6:23:56 PM] Speed was: 25.17 fps.
[3/11/2007 6:23:56 PM] Job finished. Total time: 45 minutes 35 seconds

[manono]

Hi-

How do I do the 1-pass Target Quality?

Just tick Target Quality and choose a percentage. The default 75% is good. Choose 640 width if you like.

What do you mean by the danger of running oversized?

I mean if you do the 13 episodes that way, there's not much chance of going over the 4.37 GB of a DVDR.

So why are the results so different if the settings were the same?

Different videos compress differently. Maybe there was more action in the episodes after the first, or more grain and noise and scratches, or they were longer, or other things that caused them to not compress as well as the first episode.

I didn't look at the logs.

[bloomcounty]

So you don't lose quality by doing a 1-pass as compared to a 2-pass?

[manono]

No, not if the file sizes wind up being the same. Some people (DJRumpy) dispute this. My opinion is that they're wrong.

[guns1inger]

One concern with single pass (non-CBR) over multi-pass is the risk of bitrate starvation as the encode progresses. If the encoder is too conservative, then it may not use enough early on, in order to preserve some for later. If it uses too much too soon, it can starve toward the end of the encode. Multi-pass should ensure a better distribution of data to smooth this out. Depending on the encoder and the source, this may result in little, if any, visible difference.

[manono]

Eh? If you're doing it for the same quality, every frame gets exactly what it needs, no more and no less. I don't understand where your concept of bitrate starvation comes in. There is no fixed final file size. The AutoGK Target Quality Mode is similar to a CQ encode in CCE or some other MPEG-2 encoder.

[bloomcounty]

No, not if the file sizes wind up being the same.

Do you mean if each episode's file size is the same as all the others? That doesn't seem to be the case so far. I'll list the original way vs. the target quality way:

Episode 1 (done with 290mb target size with a forced width of 640)
Compressibility percentage is: 98.34
Predicted comptest value is: 88.80%
Expected quality of first pass size: 93.28%
Final size: 284,686kb

Final size w/ forced width 640 and Target quality of 80%: 262,114kb

Episode 2 (done with 290mb target size with a forced width of 640)
Compressibility percentage is: 64.99
Predicted comptest value is: 64.99%
Expected quality of first pass size: 60.70%
Final size: 296,866kb

Final size w/ forced width 640 and Target quality of 75%: 372,814kb

Episode 4 (done with 290mb target size with a forced width of 640)
Compressibility percentage is: 82.52
Predicted comptest value is: 74.51%
Expected quality of first pass size: 78.43%
Final size: 297,006kb

Final size w/ forced width 640 and Target quality of 75%: 287,276kb

I think Ep. 3 is similar to 4 -- so maybe just the first two are odd...

But based on all this, do you think the 1-pass Target quality is still the way to go? It looks like I lose file size (and, thus, quality?) with Ep. 1, but gain file size (and, thus, quality?) with Ep. 2.

Thoughts? Thanks!

[manono]

Do you mean if each episode's file size is the same as all the others?

No. Say you do a Target Quality encode of one episode and it turns out to be 250 MB in size. You then do a 2-pass encode of the same episode for 250 MB with the other settings also remaining the same (resolution, matrix, resizer, XviD settings, etc.). You then will have 2 versions of the same episode, one done using Target Quality and the other using traditional 2-pass methods. My contention is that the Target Quality version is in every way as good as the 2-pass version.

If you accept that they're pretty equal, close enough so that you can't tell them apart, and if you're not all that particular about file size, then, since doing a Target Quality encode involves running just one pass, it stands to reason that a Target Quality encode would be preferred. You'll get all 13 episodes done in something like 60% of the time you'd spend running 2 passes.

[bloomcounty]

Say you do a Target Quality encode of one episode and it turns out to be 250 MB in size. You then do a 2-pass encode of the same episode for 250 MB with the other settings also remaining the same (resolution, matrix, resizer, XviD settings, etc.). You then will have 2 versions of the same episode, one done using Target Quality and the other using traditional 2-pass methods. My contention is that the Target Quality version is in every way as good as the 2-pass version.

Okay, I understand what you're saying... and I will test this just for kicks with the first episode.

However, why do the results vary so much in final file size for the first twp episodes respectively, as described in my last post? Again, here are those results:

Episode 1 (done with 290mb target size with a forced width of 640)
Compressibility percentage is: 98.34
Predicted comptest value is: 88.80%
Expected quality of first pass size: 93.28%
Final size: 284,686kb

Final size w/ forced width 640 and Target quality of 80%: 262,114kb

Episode 2 (done with 290mb target size with a forced width of 640)
Compressibility percentage is: 64.99
Predicted comptest value is: 64.99%
Expected quality of first pass size: 60.70%
Final size: 296,866kb

Final size w/ forced width 640 and Target quality of 75%: 372,814kb

Granted, I understand that you're saying if I now run the first episode with a TARGET SIZE of 262mb with 2-pass encoding (which I will test), that I'll get a final file that is almost identical in size/quality as the Target Quality of 80% listed above. But that's a lot smaller than the first one I did, since that had a target size of 290mb. So would I need to increase the TARGET QUALITY even more to get the same quality? And if that's the case, then that would mean I'd have to run them all both ways to double-check that, and then I've got more than twice the encoding time. Do you know what I'm saying?

If I run them all just 1-pass Target Quality, most will probably come out around 297mb, but when I get one that comes out a lot less than that, does that mean the compressibility has higher for that episode (i.e. "better") -- like Episode 1 above -- and that I should then rerun the Target Quality at an even higher percent than 75%? Or is that not even needed, and you think 284.6mb and 262.1mb are close enough? (I'll admit, looking at both versions of Ep. 2 *on my computer*, they look very similar.)

In the same vein, if I get results like Ep. 2, where the final 1-pass Target Quality file is much larger than 297mb, I guess that would mean the compressibility was much lower than the rest, but with that I should be fine because AutoGK has made the file that much larger to compensate, right?

If you accept that they're pretty equal, close enough so that you can't tell them apart, and if you're not all that particular about file size

If I'm doing them all at the same Target Quality % (which I guess I'd have to, not knowing how each episode will encode beforehand), I guess I'd only be particular in cases like Ep. 1, where the the 1-pass encode comes out a lot (though maybe that's not a lot?) smaller than it would have if I had done a 2-pass encode. However, there's really no way to know that going in -- unless I assume that the 297mb file size I got for Ep. 3 & 4 is the "norm", and if it comes out a lot less, then I guess I'd have to decide if I want to redo it at a higher %.

Or, again, do you feel that 284.6mb and 262.1mb are close enough in size to be just about the same (especially if it means the compressibility is better than average, as it is with Ep. 1)?

Thoughts? (I hope those questions/comments make sense! Thanks!)

[manono]

I don't understand. Your Ep1 2-pass compress test result was 93% and you lose exact file size predictability over about 90% and you can't reach the size at all over 100%. The Target Quality at 80% was lower, and the size was smaller.

Your Ep2 2-pass hit the exact size you requested. The Target Quality percentage was roughly 25% greater, and the file size of the 1-pass Target Quality encode was also roughly 25% greater.

Do you know what I'm saying?

No. Do it however you like. I'm just laying out the options. Me, if I were doing it, knowing that the different episodes compress so differently, I wouldn't do them all for the same fixed file size, because the resulting quality would be all over the place. I'd run a few tests to find out roughly what resolution and percentage would come close to filling the DVDR and then I'd do them all for the same quality.

Go ask your new Doom9 friends all that and see if they're not rude to you. To quote unskinnyboy:

And when I suggested reading, it wasn't about reading yet another AutoGK guide. It was about reading about compression basics - how resolution affects compressibility, why encodes undersize, how comptests work etc. No single link to point to, but you will get plenty of threads if you search.

[bloomcounty]

Go ask your new Doom9 friends all that and see if they're not rude to you.

Okay, I don't understand this. What's with the attitude? Are you offended that I also posted on another board? I do that to get a variety of opinions (seems pretty logical, doesn't it? especially since there are so many opinions about this stuff floating around out there). And, yes, the guy there had a major attitude (something that seems to be common on message boards, and something I'm growing sick and tired of). And because of his attitude, I decided not to really post to that thread any longer.

Also, I'm not doubting you -- I'm merely trying to UNDERSTAND the options. Isn't this about learning? And I don't see why you don't understand the questions I was asking about the 1-pass option. They're pretty clear. If you have issues with someone questioning anything you say, to get a better understanding, and to create a discussion, then I understand if you'd prefer not to assist me any longer. It's probably for the best.

If, however, you're a reasonable person (which I thought you seemed like), I'd love to continue to get your help and discuss this stuff with you (and continue to learn). I appreciate the effort.

So if we're still working together here, here's some questions:

Your Ep1 2-pass compress test result was 93% and you lose exact file size predictability over about 90% and you can't reach the size at all over 100%. The Target Quality at 80% was lower, and the size was smaller.

What does it mean to "lose exact file size predictability over 90%" and not being able to reach it over 100%? Can you explain what that means? If I understand this concept, I think a lot will become much more clear.

So is the Ep1 2-pass 93% "better" than the target quality 80%?

Your Ep2 2-pass hit the exact size you requested. The Target Quality percentage was roughly 25% greater, and the file size of the 1-pass Target Quality encode was also roughly 25% greater.

Hey, this I understand!

Thanks.