Burning DVD Copies

[FikiFriday]

I transferred home video from VHS to DVD. Now I want to burn some copies of the DVDs. Unfortunately the DVD application on my computer does not recognize the DVD file type (VOB). Is there an application I could use to burn copies? Thanks.

[redwudz]

You could try the freeware ImgBurn. Just use the 'Build' mode and put in your VIDEO_TS folder and burn. You could also use the older DVD Decrypter, ISO read > ISO write, but ImgBurn works better with newer DVD drives.

[FikiFriday]

Thank you for the advice. The ImgBurn freeware was pretty straightforward, however, the DVD I created contains two of everything that was on my original and I don't know why. In the 'Build' mode I put in all the files contained in the VIDEO_TS folder. Those files are labled:
VIDEO_TS
VIDEO_TS.BUP
VIDEO_TS.IFO
VTS_01_0.IFO
VTS_01_1
VTS_01_2
VTS_O1_3
VTS_01_4
Any thoughts on where I went wrong?

[Pinstripes23]

VIDEO_TS <-------------- Is that supposed to be there? What is it a folder?
VIDEO_TS.BUP
VIDEO_TS.IFO
VTS_01_0.IFO
VTS_01_1
VTS_01_2
VTS_O1_3
VTS_01_4


Take it out with the rest of the files and just burn

VIDEO_TS.BUP
VIDEO_TS.IFO
VTS_01_0.IFO
VTS_01_1
VTS_01_2
VTS_O1_3
VTS_01_4

[Dr_Layne]

the .VOB file extension is not shown. The first file is supposed to be there.

[Pinstripes23]

the .VOB file extension is not shown. The first file is supposed to be there.

Only if there is video. Plus it's a homemade dvd not commercial.

[FikiFriday]

I removed the VIDEO_TS file and burned the remaining files. The output DVD was not playable. I've attached a screenshot of the DVD contents in hopes someone can tell help me out. Thanks.

dvd%20screenshot.ppt

[sanlyn]

The screenshot you've posted is a PowerPoint file. It can't be viewed unless the user trying to see it has PowerPoint or a PowerPoint Viewer on their PC. Images should be posted as JPG, PNG.

Your DVD requires two folders, AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS. The AUDIO_TS folder might or might not be empty, it doesn't require any data.

The VIDEO_TS folder should have these file extensions, and ONLY these file extensions:
.BUP
.IFO
.VOB

The .VOB's are your actual video. The other files are info about menus, indexes, etc.

You have nine .VOB files in your video. Each is 1-GB in size. This means that the size of your video is 9-GB. No way you're going to fit 9-GB onto a DVD disc designed to hold 4.7 GB, unless you're trying to make a double-sided DVD -- the screen capture doesn't look like a double-sided setup. Your movie is either too long to be contained on a DVD, or you have recorded or encoded it at too high a bitrate.

go to http://www.digitalfaq.com and start on page 1.

[BobK]

Your movie is either too long to be contained on a DVD, or you have recorded or encoded it at too high a bitrate.

Or it could be a dual layer DVD, although based on the original question I'd say it's more likely a commercial movie and not homemade VHS to DVD. If that's the case then his DVD application does recognize the vobs, it just won't override the copy protection.

[sanlyn]

Here are the file names in the VIDEO_TS folder of a DVD I made from a VHS tape. The video is 1hr 48min long and used a bitrate of an "average" 4800 VBR mbps, which is about "SP" speed (2 hours) on most DVD recorders. The file names in the VIDEO_TS folder are:

VIDEO_TS.BUP 8 KB
VIDEO_TS.IFO 8 KB
VTS_01_0.BUP 84 KB
VTS_01_0.IFO 84 KB
VTS_01_0.VOB 1,418 KB
VTS_01_1.VOB 1,048,404 KB
VTS_01_2.VOB 1,048,404 KB
VTS_01_3.VOB 1,048,404 KB
VTS_01_4.VOB 205,222 KB

The file sizes on your DVD don't have to be the same as these,
but the files names should basically agree.

Also, if you are just trying to burn a copy of a DVD that already works, why not just use the "DVD Copy" feature of your burner software? If what you have recorded on your DVD recorder is a double-sided disc, you will need a double-sided burner and matching double-sided software on your PC to do the work. To transfer all the files from a DVD onto your hard drive and then try to make copies from there is the hard way -- Instead, just put your working DVD in your PC's DVD drive and start your DVD-copy software.

If you don't have a double-sided DVD burner on your PC, and no hard drive on your DVD recorder to hold a copy to burn, you can't make a copy of this DVD onto a single-layer disc. The files shown in your screenshot are not files for a standard DVD, but look like some version of VR-mode files made on a DVD recorder.

[sanlyn]

Uh,....Or, as BobK has noted, the originalk DVD is either a double-sided thingie or a commercially-made double-layer disc. In fact, I have some retail double-layer DVD's around but have never tried looking at the files on it. It's about time I tried it.

[BobK]

The files shown in your screenshot are not files for a standard DVD, but look like some version of VR-mode files made on a DVD recorder.

What? What file do you see in that screenshot that's not a standard DVD file?

Those are exactly the files you would see on any standard DVD.

[src2206]

Sorry, wrong post at the wrong place. Mods, please delete this post.

[sanlyn]

What? What file do you see in that screenshot that's not a standard DVD file?

Those are exactly the files you would see on any standard DVD.

By that remark, I meant to say the files are not shown as ".VOB". I wrote that before my 4th morning coffee. SHould teach me to stay offline til I'm conscious on weekends.

[Dr_Layne]

They look like VOB files to me. Just because you do not see the file extension does not mean they are not VOB files. Windows has the option of hiding file extensions for files that are associated to a program. The OP obviously has a program installed that has VOB files associated to it. The OP's file structure is fine.

A DVD burning app does not need to recognize VOB files to copy the disc. Most burning apps have a simple "copy disc" function.

Steve

[sanlyn]

A DVD burning app does not need to recognize VOB files to copy the disc. Most burning apps have a simple "copy disc" function.

That's all quite true, and copying the disc is what I suggested earlier. But apparently the owner has a copy-protected DVD, so copying is out the window. What the user has to do for a copy of that movie is record it thru his TBC-1000 onto another capture device (assuming the copy protection method used is one that won't cause his TBC to be unable to use the input). To this recording, the user has to add menus, chapters, etc., and the recording could be fairly decent but not as clean as the original, and so forth.

P.S.: Windows does not have to have file associations set up to show all file extensions, it just shows them whether you have software associations or not. Maybe it's just the way the user has his OS set up. Just don't see how anyone can use a PC efficiently that way, especially since files can have exactly the same name but different extensions (file1.txt, file1.dll, file1.exe, file1.mcm, file1.doc., file1.rtf, file1.ini, and on and on. Without extensions, all those files would show up as simply "file1". Even the .txt and .ini file would have the same descriptive icon. Sheesh. Don't know how people can work that way).

On the other hand, copy protection can make folder listings look pretty weird, which is probably what's happening.

[FikiFriday]

While I don't understand some of the technical dialogue, I do want to clarify a few things. This is indeed a DVD made from VHS tapes. It is not a commercial DVD. Also it is a dual layer DVD.
Sanlyn - the gold nugget for me is your suggestion to just use the "DVD copy" feature". Thanks!
My PC does not appear to have DVD copy software. Are there any "simple" freeware programs you recomend?

[BobK]

My PC does not appear to have DVD copy software. Are there any "simple" freeware programs you recomend?

Imgburn will copy the disk to an iso, then burn the iso to a new disk.

[FikiFriday]

Thanks much!

[oldfart13]

Rip files to hard drive with DVDFab Decryptor. Burn with Ashampoo Burning Engine 6 set to Burn a Video DVD from a Prepared Folder. Direct program to the folder where you just ripped the files (Video TS) and hit 'write'. Very simple. Been doing this for many months (just did one while I was writing this)....