Strange Resolution??

[JBC]

When I attempt to play this video with PowerDVD I get a screen that says: "This disc is not formatted to play in this region." When I play it with Media player 6.4 the resolution is said to be 852x480. After checking the guide on this site for the various resolutions I noted that 852x480 is neither a PAL or NTSC Res. How can I back up my Movie?

[Baldrick]

Have you just tried backup as usual? https://www.videohelp.com/dvdbackup#6;65
Or are you getting any problems?

And just get a region free dvd tool like anydvd if you still would like to use powerdvd.

[Alex_ander]

Maybe 352x480 NTSC, region 1 (standard half-resolution)? Use DVDRegionFree or DVDIdlePro for beating region/CSS limitations forever on your system.

[steveryan]

That error is caused by RCE protection.

[JBC]

What I'd like to do is shrink both the width and height by the same percentage so as to maintain aspect ratio until the width is 720 pixels. Then add black bars across the top and bottom until I build the height back up to 480 pixels, thus complying with the NTSC MPEG 2 720x480 standard which would allow the playing of my backup in NTSC DVD players.

I have no clue as to what software will allow me to basically create an anamorphic screen out of this 852x480 source. Any ideas?

[steveryan]

Have you actually tried to rip the disc to your hard drive?

[JBC]

Yes it's on disc now. That's a "Hard Disk" not a Compact Disc.

Sorry to be misleading.

[JBC]

So is there software that will automatically add black borders on the top and bottom of the screen to yield a particular final res., in order to maintain video aspect ratio when resizing?

[steveryan]

Just to clarify - is this a shop bought DVD or a download?

[manono]

Yeah, sounds like a tempest in a teapot to me. 852x480 is just the DVD resized from 720x480. So, it's already 720x480, and nothing needs to be done if you plan on reencoding for DVD. There are many ways to confirm the resolution. Open the DVD in DVD Decrypter (IFO Mode->Stream Processing). Open a Vob on the hard drive in DGIndex. Many more.

If there's a region problem, so what? When decrypting, you'll lose the region protection anyway. Sounds to me like it may be a Japanese R2 NTSC DVD (or maybe from HK, Taiwan or Korea), and without resetting your DVD-ROM's region, it won't play until after being decrypted, or until after you've used a region-free tool, as Baldrick suggested.

I have no clue as to what software will allow me to basically create an anamorphic screen out of this 852x480 source. Any ideas?

Yeah, stop trying to think so much and just do what you were planning on doing. I'm assuming this is really a DVD. None of your posts have given any real information.

[dphirschler]

What I'd like to do is shrink both the width and height by the same percentage so as to maintain aspect ratio until the width is 720 pixels. Then add black bars across the top and bottom until I build the height back up to 480 pixels, thus complying with the NTSC MPEG 2 720x480 standard which would allow the playing of my backup in NTSC DVD players.

I have no clue as to what software will allow me to basically create an anamorphic screen out of this 852x480 source. Any ideas?

If it is really 852, then it is wierd. 720x480 anamorphic widescreen is actually that resolution after it is stretched out properly. But you should just resize it to 720x480 and author 16x9.


Darryl

[JBC]

Just to clarify - is this a shop bought DVD or a download?

To clarify: Only cops or wanna-be's would ask such questions. The conclusion is reached primarily because solutions to my problem is what I seek and not discussion on how I've come to find myself in need of someone’s help, which is exactly what you're probing.

But in giving you the benefit of the doubt, I'll say neither! Of course you have to keep in mind that from my perspective your question is a bit ambiguous. What exactly is a "shop?" You must be British!

If in fact a shop can either be a local/remote business/individual, then the answer would have to be changed to yes to the latter.

But again, you help me not! Thanks Anyway!

All you had to do was say you didn't know, instead of trying to poke at the sucker.

[JBC]

Actually everything is fine, it was my screw up.

My dedicated DVD player is down for repairs at the moment. I'm using my Computer to watch DVD's. Anyway the first thing I do when I purchase any media is back up the original and put in on the shelf for safe keeping.

When this problem arose I was really ticked off because I was a little leery of the seller to begin with. I mean you got to love those auction prices, but you're always a bit worried about an unknown individual versus a reputable company. Anyway it turns out it's not a knock off because it's working now.

Thanks to all who replied. I really appreciate the help.

Sorry for getting a little angry Steve, but you should watch those accusations, especially when someone’s dealing with a problem that's stressing them out. The last thing they need is someone adding to their misery.

[jlietz]

To clarify: Only cops or wanna-be's would ask such questions....But again, you help me not! Thanks Anyway! All you had to do was say you didn't know, instead of trying to poke at the sucker.

You're not going to get very far by insulting those trying to help you...For someone with 5 posts to your credit you seem a bit mouthy...

Maybe I've missed it, but I don't see where you have said what kind of video this is. AVI? MPG? What codec?

I don't know if this applies or not, but I have seen 852x480 before on "captured" DV AVI files. From what I can tell, the res is sometimes reported as 852x480 if the first frame of the video is corrupted. I have been able to get around this by trimming the corrupted frames from the video. The video then reports correctly as 720x480.

[hech54]

To clarify: Only cops or wanna-be's would ask such questions. The conclusion is reached primarily because solutions to my problem is what I seek and not discussion on how I've come to find myself in need of someone’s help, which is exactly what you're probing.

Let me write this down...."JBC"...got it.
Biting the hand that feeds you is pretty stupid IMO...and as you will
probably find out later...it is the opinion of many other too.

Bye Bye JBC

[JBC]

For someone with 5 posts to your credit you seem a bit mouthy..

How old are you to think that somehow longevity on this board equates to being mouthy?

In the heat of my plight I found his insinuations intolerable. I posted my apology to him, which is our business.

What you have to ask yourself is if you posted to “HELP” someone or to exercise your longevity rite of passage. Did you attend the school of “Mob Rule?” Or are you just a wee little lad?

Oh yeah, and thanks for your help???

[jlietz]

For someone with 5 posts to your credit you seem a bit mouthy..

How old are you to think that somehow longevity on this board equates to being mouthy?

In the heat of my plight I found his insinuations intolerable. I posted my apology to him, which is our business.

What you have to ask yourself is if you posted to “HELP” someone or to exercise your longevity rite of passage. Did you attend the school of “Mob Rules?” Or are you just a wee little lad?

Oh yeah, and thanks for your help???

[JBC]

Let me write this down...."JBC"...got it.
Biting the hand that feeds you is pretty stupid IMO...and as you will
probably find out later...it is the opinion of many other too.

Bye Bye JBC

Why do you find it’s necessary to threaten people? Is this what you live for?
Do you really think Steve needs the help? It would seem I have more respect for him than you do. After all I publicly apologized to him, or did you continently miss that fact.

So you also believe in Mob Rule. At 50 years old I feel sorry for you young guys, believing that you have to harm someone in order to be an effective contributor in society.

You know it’s a shame that It’s my son and not you that’s over in Iraq right now. Sounds like you’d really teach them a lesson.

[mats.hogberg]

@JBC (and all other that have "contributed" in this thread):No personal attacks. If this is a store (or shop) bought disc or not is very relevant to bring this to some kind of solution.
JBC has still to provide any kind of info regarding what kind of video we're dealing with, besides resolution. If you want help, answer the questions asked, don't question the intention. If you for some reason don't want to answer, don't expect to get help.
Fair warning

/Mats

[jameshgross]

JBL, no one accused you of anything. Asking the source of a file or DVD is a Legitimate question. Just for your infomation, this site is sensitive to bootleg or illegal material, many others have been abmonished not to discuss or post such material.
I am glad to see that yuou did get an answer to your question. Hope to see you contribute in later posts. Welcome.

[JBC]

@JBC (and all other that have "contributed" in this thread):No personal attacks. If this is a store (or shop) bought disc or not is very relevant to bring this to some kind of solution.
JBC has still to provide some kind of info regarding what kind of video we're dealing with. If you want help, answer the questions asked, don't question the intention.
Fair warning

/Mats

Thanks for your help Mats, but I already figured out that everything is ok. I have no clue as to why Media Player 6.4 said it was 852x480, Go Figure.

Sorry about my personal attack defense mode, but at my age I get tired of people always so quick to jump on your back, which is why I immediately apologized to Steve.

As far as I’m concerned this case is closed. I don’t require any more of your “help,” or otherwise.

Again, sincere thanks to all those who legitimately tried to help.

[steveryan]

@ JBC and Mats - the reasoning behind my question was quite simple, if it was a shop/store bought DVD then the DVD would not have that non-valid resolution. I was and am sceptical about that resolution. Anyway, apology accepted. Although to be honest I was more annoyed with you accusing me of being British, I'm English.

[manono]

Although to be honest I was more annoyed with you accusing me of being British, I'm English.

Hehe, that's funny, all you English people all the time being lumped together with all those other blokes. We Americans aren't always sensitive enough to those kinds of things.

Later:

Hey! Wait a minute, manono. Where do you arrogant US people get off thinking you have a monopoly on the word "American"? I'm an American, too, a Brazilian South American.

Ain't the Internet grand? People from all over the world can get together and insult each other, often completely unknowingly.

[thecoalman]

I have no clue as to why Media Player 6.4 said it was 852x480, Go Figure.

The reason was already stated:

720x480 anamorphic widescreen is actually that resolution after it is stretched out properly.

It's reporting the display resolution not the true resolution. Depending on your sofware and settings if you take a sceencapture it will come out that size too. This BTW is one of the reasons steveryan asked the question he did. If it's store bought them undoubtedly the raw video is 720x480(or pal equivalent) and you would only have to rip the disc. Downloads on the other hand could be anything.....

[hech54]

Let me write this down...."JBC"...got it.
Biting the hand that feeds you is pretty stupid IMO...and as you will
probably find out later...it is the opinion of many other too.

Bye Bye JBC

Why do you find it’s necessary to threaten people? Is this what you live for?

Oh it's not a threat at all. It's a promise....a promise
of ZERO help from me in the future....and probably many others
too judging by your behavior.

[mats.hogberg]

As the issue is solved for the OP, and all additions to this thread will at best be off topic, I see no reason why it should stay open.

/Mats