Replace menu in DVD

[daemon22]

I have a DVD that i replace the french subtitle to hebrew.

now i edit the menu backgrund picture with photoshop from french to hebrew but when i get my marker on the hebrew butten the french highlith.

I know that it is the subpicture but how can i edit it or even make a new menu page and replace it with the current menu???

thanx alot in advance

[guns1inger]

MenuEdit might be worth a look

[daemon22]

can this help me edit buttons highlites (subpictures) or buil a new menu?


and if u can point me to a guid that can help me so plaes

[manono]

Hi-

can this help me edit buttons highlites (subpictures) or buil a new menu?

It can't do anything with sub_pics. If you're capable of editing the sub pics, then my guide might help. There was a discussion down from the initial guide between PBear and myself when he had to do the same as you - edit the sub_pics. So, follow my full guide, but take a little detour to edit the sub_pic, before rebuilding the menu and putting it back into the DVD. Good luck:

https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?p=1606732#1606732

After extracting the BMP using SubRip, you can save to SST. Then in the SST, substitute your edited BMP for the original, and Muxman accepts SST for authoring. It's pretty picky, though. They have to be 4-bit and a specific resolution.

Another way, if you have any trouble with SST, is to save as a SON file in SubRip, substitute the edited BMP for the original, then use Son2VobSub to make an IDX/SUB file, and then SubToSup or the latest Subtitle Creator to convert back to SUP for muxing in Muxman.

https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?p=1634574&highlight=after+extracting+bmp+usin...subrip#1634574

[daemon22]

I have read your tutorial alredy and it helped me alot but my problem is that i can make a new menu with dvdmaestro (with subpictures) but when i replace the menu cell with Vobblanker the menu lose the subpicture colors and somtime the pic itself.

when i play the created menu with powerdvd i can see the menu goo like i want it.

i think that this is somting with vobblanker so is there any other way to replace my new menu with the current one?

[GeorgeW]

PGCedit will let you replace a menu - have you tried that?

I haven't done it in a while, so let me know if you have any problems using PGCedit. I can check how I did it when I get back to my editing machine later today...

Regards,
George

[manono]

but when i replace the menu cell with Vobblanker the menu lose the subpicture colors and somtime the pic itself.

Did you export and then import the menu and color schemes, as described in the guide? If you don't import the menu and color schemes after replacing the BMP in VobBlanker and then Processing, you'll lose the menu functionality. It's described in 6. Importing.

https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?p=1606732#1606732

Or as GeorgeW mentioned, you can import a complete new menu (maybe the one that Maestro created for you) for your video, using PGCEdit, although you may have to remap some navigational commands

[daemon22]

I will try PGCedit and let you know the result

[daemon22]

I try using PGCedit to replace the menus but when i press the import menu button then the main menu come but deleat the other page (subtitle) disapear.

mybe im doing somtin worng so can you tell me exectly how to do it with PGCedit?


Thanx

[manono]

I've only done it once, so I'm far from an expert on it. I right-clicked the main video and hit Import Menu. Or you can highlight the video and at the top go Menu->Import Menu. I followed the instructions from there, and then did a little bit of remapping navigation commands. But it imported all the menus that I wanted. I was importing the menus from a commercial DVD.

Have you already seen the guides for importing menus using PGCEdit? You may find parts of some of them useful:

http://download.videohelp.com/jsoto/guides/VobBlanker/adding_menus/index.htm
http://www.dvdshrink.info/chetwood/guides.php#PgcEdit_menuimport

If the menu you created is part of a DVD, even if there's no real video in it, another approach is to open the DVD with the menu you created, and then Import (or Replace) a VTST Title (your main video), also using PGCEdit. Here's a clever guide that discusses this approach:

https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?p=1459519#1459519

[daemon22]

I managed to use PGCedit to replace the whole menu in one of my movies (main + subtitles) but i have another movie that has its menu (main + subtitles + chapters.....) and i only want to replace the subtitles menu and when i use the import menu in PGCedit then it replace the whole menu of the dvd and i get only the subtitle page that i created.



is there a way to replace one of the menus?

[manono]

is there a way to replace one of the menus?

Yes. If this is a static menu, and if all you want is to replace the background menu (the picture), then scroll to the botton of my guide, to The Easy Way

https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?p=1606732#1606732

You just have to extract the BMP you want, and then, using VobBlanker, drag it onto the menu you're replacing, after having pointed the path to Muxman, and a temp folder. Then Process and you're done.

By the way, I don't know if you're reencoding movies from DVD or not, but if you are, then you can much more easily use the original menus that came with the DVD, instead of what you're doing now. It'll save you the time of creating new menus, and you'll have the (probably) better looking and more professional original menus.

[daemon22]

I know how to do it but my problem is that i want to edit the subpicture of the menu and then replace it with the original one.

I know how to make the menu with the subpicture but my problem is when i replace the menu cell with vobblanker then i loose all the subpicture colors and somtime i cant see them at all (I tried to export/import the color with PGCdemux with no luck).

I know that when im using PGCdemux then the menu stay like i made him but i dont know how to replace just one menu.

can u tell me how can i do this with PGCdemux or maybe another way instade of vobblanker?

[manono]

OK, I'm sorry, you said you wanted to replace the sub pics of a menu, and I didn't notice that.
You have to demux the menu, get the BMP out of the SUP file, edit it, create a new SUP file, or an SST which Muxman can use, and then remux the entire menu in Muxman, before replacing in VobBlanker. I thought we already went through all this.

You don't use PGCDemux to replace a single Menu, but VobBlanker.

Here's another guide. Maybe you'll like it better:

http://dvdguides.netgeekhosting.com/guides/edit_menu/

And here's how it used to be done, before the arrival of better and faster methods:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=555936#post555936

[daemon22]

Im sorry in my last post i wrote PGCdemux when what i ment is PGCedit.

manono: I looked at the tutorial that you gave me and its the same way i do it (using vobblaker) but my problem is that i craet the menu usin DVDMaesto (using Photoshop to edit my background and subpictures) and the menu cam out fine (highlith color) but when i replace the menu with vobblanker then the buttons highlith loose the original colors and some of them disapear.

How can i get the bmp from the SUP and create a new SUP/SST file with the subpicture, i know how to get the background BMP file and use muxman to create a new background but with no subpicture.

I try to use PGCedit to expot/import the colors but nothing changed.

When i used PGCedit to replace a whole menu in anothe DVD that i have (also creating the menu using DVDmaestro) then the final result was graet, but the problem with this movie is that i wat to keep all the menu exept of one page but i dont know how to do it in PGCedit


Can you help me with that?

[manono]

How can i get the bmp from the SUP and create a new SUP/SST file with the subpicture

We've already been through this. I pointed you to the exchange between me and PBear about this very thing, about 2/3 of the way down the thread with my guide. You can extract the BMPs of the SUP file using SubRip. I have a series of 3 pictures that show the results. If this is what's stopping you, it may be beyond your knowledge and experience at the moment.

[daemon22]

Im sorry that im so annoying its just that im so frustrated.

I looked back and i can find out how its made.

I get the subpicture and be able to edit it and insert it to the original DVD withe the changes that i made but my problem now is that in the original DVD there is 13 buttons in the menu (including subpicture) and thay all work fine but in my modify menu all the buttons highliths work fine exept the last to (12, 13), the buttons work fine but i cant see the subpictue.

Do you have any idea why?

(i used the doom9 tutorial made by goonix: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=99306)

[manono]

No.

[daemon22]

so there is nothing that i can do?

Plaese help me im so close

[Pinstripes23]

Maybe make the hotspots bigger in pgcedit when you do the "import whole menu" stage. If the hotpots aren't bigger than the subpics, then the subpic won't highlight.....but the linking should work though. There are height and width sliders.

[daemon22]

the subpictures are in the same size because the highlith is just making the writing in a difrent color so im sure that the size of the buttens are currect.

[Pinstripes23]

Open up your modified menu vob in dvdsubedit and see if the highlights show up. Move the subpic color/transparency slider all the way to the right to view them.

[daemon22]

I use dvdsubedit and the buttons highlights dont show up, i tried to begin the all thing from the start but with the same resualt.

What shold i do?

[Pinstripes23]

I dunno why it's not working for you. If you know you have the highlights before using muxman, but afterwards they don't show up. Maybe during the muxing process muxman isn't taking the sst file as it should. Or you created or saved a subpic that isn't within dvd spec.

Edit: All you did was change the color of the writing when you edited? You should be able to change the color without demuxing the subpicture from the menu. DVDSubedit or pgcedit can do this for you.

[daemon22]

what i ment is that the subpicture is only changing the color but i changed the wirting in the backgroung so i also have to change the subpicture to fit to the background writing.