Avi2DVD help Iso too big

[martial4rtist]

Hi, I am using the program Avi2DVD to convert a file of 802 mb avi and the encoder is the HCEnc. The output is supposed to be a normal 4.7 gb DVD-R but everytime I convert the file, the .iso file is always 4.6 gb and Nero and DVD decrypter never allow me to burn that onto a DVD because it says it is too big... is there anything I can do about this? btw I am using the latest Avi2DVD. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

~Sam

[martial4rtist]

and I forgot to mention that the video is 2hr and 25 min long

~Sam

[manono]

Hi-

and I forgot to mention that the video is 2hr and 25 min long

That means nothing. It's all about the bitrate. Maybe you should start making them for 4.38 GB, since that's about what a DVD-R will hold. Another way of putting it is that a DVD-R holds about 4487 MB. For both measurements, you might lower them a bit, to ensure you don't go over. And if you use less than top-quality media, lower the figures some more, to ensure you don't get stutters/freezes at the end.

[AlanHK]

the .iso file is always 4.6 gb and Nero and DVD decrypter never allow me to burn that onto a DVD because it says it is too big.

Avi2DVD should be making them the correct size.
How are you trying to burn the ISO? As a file, or an image?

Try ImgBurn, select Mode as "Write", then choose your ISO.

[Jo The Veteran]

I don't make videos into dvds but that's what i would do if i where you. You say the size of the iso is too big AFTER the encoding right. So use dvdshrink on it.
You take the video (avi or whatever) and make it dvd with Nerovision or whatever. Then dvdshrink it into 4.36GB exactly and you're set.

[Belial1980]

Hello, really sorry to dig up such an old thread but found it on a google search and it matched my problem exactly..

I just can't seem to wrap my head around it. I'm using AVI2DVD to convert a video file from AVI / MKV or whatever to DVD. I'm NOT creating an ISO, though I have tried creating one, just to see what happens (ISO is same size as VIDEO_TS and AUDIO_TS folders).

The problem is that for some reason, since I rebuilt my PC from XP to Server 2003 it makes the folders / ISO about 100-400 MB too big for a DVD-R.

At first I thought it was something I wasn't understanding, like the bitrate in the AVI's being higher than ones I'd done previously, so I tried an AVI that I'd done before successfully, with the same result. The last AVI I checked converted and burnt fine before the rebuild (shouldn't affect it though I wouldn't have thought?).

Anyway, my process is:

1. Load AVI into AVI2DVD.
2. Select output folder, deselect create ISO
3. Select DVD size (DVD-5 4.7Gb) - There is no option for 4.4Gb or anything like that. Next option down is CD-R.
3. Select HcENc, best, mpeg.
4. Add Job, Select Go.

I know I could shrink the DVD or something, or recode it with Nero Recode or something (if I looked into how they worked ofc - Im a bit of a noob when it comes to working with video / audio and conversions etc), but then that's just adding MORE time and interaction to what was previously a one-stage / program conversion process, and it worked fine before

Any ideas guys?

[AlanHK]

The problem is that for some reason, since I rebuilt my PC from XP to Server 2003 it makes the folders / ISO about 100-400 MB too big for a DVD-R.

Are you sure?
What happens when you use ImgBurn and select the VIDEO_TS folder?

The "calculator" button should then show you what percentage of a DVD it takes.

[Belial1980]

Yup Im very sure I'm a network admin, so I know my way around a PC, I'm just a bit of a noob when it comes to audio / video stuff. If I'm pointed in the right direction I'd be able to understand it though.

The one I'm currently looking at is 4.41 Gb after conversion. If I select the folder it asks me for Layer Break options, which after using google seems to be something I'd set for burning to a DL disk, and indeed, if I click the 'Ignore Layer Break' button it shows as 56% of a DL disk calculated. If I create an ISO, put a DVD-R in the drive, and select the iso to burn, it shows as 102%

I've tried a 700Mb AVI file, a 1.4 Gb AVI file (pretty sure they're both XVID, I'll look into how that gspot Ive seen mentioned works and check it out after this post), a 4.3Gb mkv file (not 100% sure on what these are, just gathered they were some kind of 'enhanced AVI' with extra streams? or something?) , and like I say, just to be sure, I converted a file I'd previously converted, that has worked perfectly before with the same exact process. It STILL came up too big. I can't see the OS I'm using making any difference, (they were both x86 versions) but I figured there will be gaps in my knowledge when it comes to this converting malarky. Maybe the codecs I installed after installing my server would have made a difference (klite / xp codec pack type thing, to my shame )? There's gotta be something I'm missing.

Are there any AVI2DVD logs that I can pull out and look through that may shed light on it? (I know, I know.. I'm being REALLY lazy, I'll go google it too after I hit 'submit' but in case I don't find it, I'll leave the question here as well )

Or maybe there's better software that will do everything in 'one stage'? I dont need it to be 'one-click' / 'idiot proof', just as long as I can put a AVI in one end, a DVD folder / ISO comes out the other, and I can leave it unattended once I set it going, i.e. without having to extract audio / video seperately or copy files about between stages or whatever. I don't mind having to set options / settings etc at the beginning, I just tend to run the conversions overnight so don't want to have to 'babysit' it.

Phew. Sorry for wall of text. Thanks again

[Belial1980]

Update:

I managed to use gspot to confirm that the AVI's I'm using have the following info:

Container:
File Length Correct
DivX Style "packed bitstream" AVI
OpenDML (AVI v2.0)
Interleave: 1 vid frame (42 ms), preload=504
Audio frames: Aligned on interleaves
Video: 593 MB (84.74%)
Audio: 99.6 MB (14.23%)
AVI Overhead: 7.17 MB (1.03%)

User Data / Metadata:
[ISFT] VirtualDubMod 1.5.10.2 (build 2540/release)
[JUNK] VirtualDubMod build 2540/release
[USER] DivX999b000p
[USER] XviD0037

Here's a SS of the Gspot app:



Thanks again

[AlanHK]

It appears to be a bug in AVI2DVD.
See their forum:
http://www.trustfm.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2755
and here:
http://www.trustfm.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2404

These suggest the problem is the audio stream encoded is too large (too high rate and/or too many channels).

I don't use AVI2DVD myself, though I installed it long ago and checked it out.
It seems that you set the "audio bitrate" in "Step 2 Output" tab.
I think the default may be 384 kb/s. Reduce that to 128. That will save a few hundred MB.
Since your input is MP3 stereo 128kb/s no point in anything higher than that anyway.

[Belial1980]

Ah, perfect thankyou!

I did wonder if lowering the audio bitrate would help, but didn't want to sacrifice quality. I'll do what you say, and see if that works, cheers!

It's nice to know it's not just me being a moron What's strange is that it worked fine before the rebuild. I'll make sure I've got the latest version of AVI2DVD and also try a VMWare XP Image and see if it makes a difference just for my own piece of mind too...

Thanks again. Out of interest, what do you use as opposed to AVI2DVD? I'm not up to speed on what the latest tools are..

[AlanHK]

From my look at the AVI2DVD forum, it looks like it isn't actively being maintained. No response from the programmer to many questions.

I actually use many of the same tools that are part of AVI2DVD, but I roll my own scripts.

I make Avisynth scripts for my input videos.
Edit them using VirtualDubMod and AvsP.
When they're good I run a batch script that uses HCEnc and Aften to make MPEG2 video and AC3 audio.
Then I use GfD to author the DVD. ImgBurn to burn it.

But if you want another all-in-one, see https://www.videohelp.com/tools/sections/all-in-one-dvd-converters

[Belial1980]

Ah I see, no worries, thanks. I'm not much into writing scripts, I could never quite wrap my head round anything too 'codey' if you get my meaning lol. Even with basic admin scripts I tend to hack and slash existing ones to do what I want, rather than write them from scratch, so I'll call learning to do all that complicated stuff you just said 'Plan B' hehe

Thanks for the link though, I'll definately have a browse through that