Can the ImgBurn copy a movie into a disc directly?

[coody]

I inserted a DVD movie into a DVD drive E as the source and then checked "Read" in the Mode. Then I selected an external DVD drive F as the Destination and placed a DVD RW into it. The erasing and copy did not start but I was prompted to “Please insert a disk into drive F. What is the problem? Can the ImgBurn copy a movie into a DVD RW disc directly?

[Marvingj]

ImgBurn does burn disc, need more information on what your trying to copy. Sounds like copying a protective movie. Could be wrong. More information needed.

[bbanderic]

It sounds like you want to know if ImgBurn will burn "on the fly". Why would you want to do that?

[Cornucopia]

Yeah, it's called "ImgBurn" because it burns images--not for disc-to-disc copies. It has no decrypting capability, anyhow.

Scott

[FulciLives]

ImgBurn was recently upgraded to version 2.2.0.0 on February 14, 2007 and according to the changlog:

Added: 'Read' mode for basic (sector by sector) creation of images direct from a cd/dvd.

I assume that this will only work on discs without copy protection.

I haven't tried this just yet although I will with a DVD-RW I made in my stand alone DVD recorder.

Anyways it sounds like this is the READ MODE in ISO MODE from DVD Decrypter ... but without any decrypting of copy protection.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[Cornucopia]

Yeah, and I'm sure it won't get that, otherwise MV will probably be breathing down Lightning UK's neck again...

Glad to hear it can read ISO's--but does that mean it does On-the-Fly? I don't think so...

Scott

[Noahtuck]

Glad to hear it can read ISO's--but does that mean it does On-the-Fly? I don't think so...

Scott

Yes it will copy unprotected disc to disc with 2 drives, the last version would also.

@ coody
What was the disc you were trying to copy ?
I just put in a dvdr in my reader & a dvdrw into my burner and when i went to burn it the erase disc came up for me.

[TJohns]

Don't think it's an on-the-fly copy though - there is a checkbox at the bottom of the MODE - READ screen that says "Add to write queue when done". Pretty much just semi-automating the two step READ + WRITE you'd do by hand.

NoahTuck: I got the impression from his description that he was selecting the RW drive as the destination for his READ pass. Hence the request for "insert a disk" - it wasn't trying to burn, but do a file copy!

Trev

[Pinstripes23]

I don't see how this is complicated. For unprotected dvd's - since imgburn can burn from the folder, why not just navigate in BUILD mode to the folder where you have the dvd in the other drive. And burn away....on-the-fly.

[coody]

Yes, as Cornucopia said, I wanted to do disc-to-disc copies for unprotected movie/DVD. I have two DVD burners. One is internal and the other is external. I have downloaded the latest version. If you have successfully done the disc-to-disc copy, please provide the steps. I will follow and try it again.

[Pinstripes23]

1) Put your dvds in each drive respectively.

2) In imgburn go to mode --> build

3) Bottom left there is an icon to switch between "switch to image file output" or "switch to output device". Make sure you are on "output device".

4) Click on the folder icon - if you hover the mouse it should say "browse for folder"

5) Navigate to the VIDEO_TS folder of the SOURCE DVD in the dvd drive.

6) Make sure under destination it outputs to the dvd drive where you want to burn.

7) When everything is set click on the folder-to-disc icon. There will be a couple prompts on volume label and how many folders it will write. Just click OK. Then it should burn on-the-fly.

[coody]

I placed a DVD RW in the destination DVD drive. How to select it and do the one step erasing and copy? It seems the ImgBurn cannot do one step to copy a whole disc to a DVD RW directly, like the Nero Copy Disc feature.

[gjb]

this is to confirm what Pinstripes23 wrote. do exactly as he outlined and it works. I have done this on the fly with imgburn however it is not that much faster. also Nero is simpler

[FulciLives]

this is to confirm what Pinstripes23 wrote. do exactly as he outlined and it works. I have done this on the fly with imgburn however it is not that much faster. also Nero is simpler

This is not so much about speed per se as it is about doing it with the best DVD burner program that exists ... ImgBurn.

- John "FulciLives" Coleman

[Noahtuck]

Actually when i did it, i did not browse for the VIDEO_TS folder on the disc i wanted to copy, i just selected the drive itself so as to copy the entire contents of the disc, i usually have extra thing's on my disc's outside of the VIDEO_TS folder.

Other than that, the same as Pinstripes23





Clicked yes, clicked yes to the volume names, and it burned away fine, ON THE FLY @ 8X 8)

Now i never do this as i always make an image first or build from something i have authored on my HDD's first as i have never been fond of on the fly copying, but it can be done.

It's safer to just rip and image to the HDD first then burn that image to the blank and set ImgBurn to delete the image when done burning.

[ricoman]

I don't know why people want to burn on the fly. You are better off burning to the HD at the same time. It takes no longer for this and this way if your destination disc is defective, you can quickly burn another. Of course, as was said, IMGburn does not decrypt protected dvds or compress, you need other software like AnyDVD and Shrink or Ripit4me etc.

[Pinstripes23]

I don't know why people want to burn on the fly. You are better off burning to the HD at the same time. It takes no longer for this and this way if your destination disc is defective, you can quickly burn another. Of course, as was said, IMGburn does not decrypt protected dvds or compress, you need other software like AnyDVD and Shrink or Ripit4me etc.

Burning on-the-fly is faster than ripping first to the hard drive, then burning. Plus it doesn't take up HD space. Now I don't do it a lot, but if I can bypass the ripping part, and burn at max speed of the media, then why not. I haven't had a defective burn so far. I have not tried it on commercially protected dvds. But I don't see why it can't be done as long as your destination media has enough disk space for the burn, and you have a decrypting program like anydvd which works on-the-fly.

[ricoman]

If if have a scratch on a backup or if the quality scan is a little iffy, even though it reads alright, I will burn on the fly. But all protected rip and burns I rip to the HD and burn at the same time. I am much more concerned with quality than speed. I scan all my burns. 3 min. extra means nothing to me. I never burn 16x media at 16x, I do them at 12x. There is usually a noticeable quality difference on the scans. And if I don't like the scan I can then burn from the existing file in 5-7 min. How much speed do you need anyway? I don't sit there and watch it rip and burn. I set it and come back in 10-15 min.

[Pinstripes23]

If if have a scratch on a backup or if the quality scan is a little iffy, even though it reads alright, I will burn on the fly. But all protected rip and burns I rip to the HD and burn at the same time. I am much more concerned with quality than speed. I scan all my burns. 3 min. extra means nothing to me. I never burn 16x media at 16x, I do them at 12x. There is usually a noticeable quality difference on the scans. And if I don't like the scan I can then burn from the existing file in 5-7 min. How much speed do you need anyway? I don't sit there and watch it rip and burn. I set it and come back in 10-15 min.

In your previous post you said - "You are better off burning to the HD at the same time. It takes no longer for this and this way if your destination disc is defective, you can quickly burn another." And it does take longer cuz you are ripping to your hard drive first. It's NOT the burning that I am talking about that is faster, it is the process. I am not against how you make copies, but was merely responding on why you said - "I don't know why people want to burn on the fly."

I wouldn't condone doing it this way with commercially protected dvds(although it can be done), as I usually do this when I am just making copies of backups I have done already. But when I make backups of commercial dvds I usually like to customize them first and compress to burn to DVD5. But if all I am doing is making a copy of a backup or a dvd I made that I already have on disc, the process is faster to just copy on-the-fly.

[lordsmurf]

Why does everybody always assume commercial DVDs are being copied? I copy on-the-fly all the time, and none of those are commercial discs. In fact, I would only be making extra copies of pristine masters, no scratches or whatever to worry about.

It's nice to hear ImgBurn will pretty much do anything related to DVD burning. It seems I can finally move on past RecordNow Max 4.5.

I wonder if ImgBurn will do on-the-fly DL to DL discs? Hmm...

[ricoman]

In your previous post you said - "You are better off burning to the HD at the same time. It takes no longer for this and this way if your destination disc is defective, you can quickly burn another." And it does take longer cuz you are ripping to your hard drive first. It's NOT the burning that I am talking about that is faster, it is the process. I am not against how you make copies, but was merely responding on why you said - "I don't know why people want to burn on the fly."

I wouldn't condone doing it this way with commercially protected dvds(although it can be done), as I usually do this when I am just making copies of backups I have done already. But when I make backups of commercial dvds I usually like to customize them first and compress to burn to DVD5. But if all I am doing is making a copy of a backup or a dvd I made that I already have on disc, the process is faster to just copy on-the-fly.

Well then, we're pretty much saying the same thing. Back up a backup on the fly (copying an existing file reallyl). But back up a protected disc to the HD.
Lordsmurf: I think most people are backing up protected disc, not backups. That is why is is assumed.

[lordsmurf]

I tried ImgBurn for disc-to-disc today. Even at 4x, this program sucks for on-the-fly, absolutely pitiful. It behaves a lot like Nero (Nero API still in use?), the buffer is all over the place. The buffer would drain and then burn was going to take an hour (or more!) regardless of copy speed.

I have no trouble in RecordNow Max 4.5.

Tested with Pioneer 111D drive.

[bbanderic]

I tried ImgBurn for disc-to-disc today. Even at 4x, this program sucks for on-the-fly, absolutely pitiful. It behaves a lot like Nero (Nero API still in use?), the buffer is all over the place. The buffer would drain and then burn was going to take an hour (or more!) regardless of copy speed.

I have no trouble in RecordNow Max 4.5.

Tested with Pioneer 111D drive.

I'll bet if you ripped the image to the HD first, you wouldn't have any buffer issues.

Burning disc to disc, on the fly, is just plain stupid. I can't believe anyone who cares about quality burns would even consider it.

Any good burning program will burn disc to disc, on the fly but will also come with a warning stating that it's not recommended due to the fact your leaving yourself wide open to errors.

[Noahtuck]

I tried ImgBurn for disc-to-disc today. Even at 4x, this program sucks for on-the-fly, absolutely pitiful. It behaves a lot like Nero (Nero API still in use?), the buffer is all over the place. The buffer would drain and then burn was going to take an hour (or more!) regardless of copy speed.

I have no trouble in RecordNow Max 4.5.

Tested with Pioneer 111D drive.

Farther up i posted when i tried it at 8X and it worked fine for me, no buffer problems or slow down's, and i alway's have 2 or 3 other things going on, surfing, files open, ect.

Although i never do on the fly, i just did it to try it

[lordsmurf]

I'll bet if you ripped the image to the HD first, you wouldn't have any buffer issues. Burning disc to disc, on the fly, is just plain stupid. I can't believe anyone who cares about quality burns would even consider it. Any good burning program will burn disc to disc, on the fly but will also come with a warning stating that it's not recommended due to the fact your leaving yourself wide open to errors.

There is nothing wrong with duplicating disc-to-disc. Nothing stupid about it. That is how you duplicate media.

The only way to incur errors, user-caused errors, is if your dupe master is crap, if your blank media is crap, or if your hardware is not configured onto different IDE/SATA channels.

If you ripped to the hard drive, there would be no buffer to worry about.

I do fine with RecordNow Max, whereas ImgBurn barfs even at 2x.

4x is the suggested max dupe speed, though some setup can do 6x or 8x. It depends on the motherboard or other IDE/SATA controllers.

[Pinstripes23]

I tried ImgBurn for disc-to-disc today. Even at 4x, this program sucks for on-the-fly, absolutely pitiful. It behaves a lot like Nero (Nero API still in use?), the buffer is all over the place. The buffer would drain and then burn was going to take an hour (or more!) regardless of copy speed.

I have no trouble in RecordNow Max 4.5.

Tested with Pioneer 111D drive.

I have never encountered the problems you are describing when I copy on-the-fly. The buffer has consistently stayed above 86% when i do this and at max speed.