Adding a new chapter

[Astrogirl]

Hello, I have to make something and I don't know how. I have a dvd, authored already, menu and chapters, and I want add a new chapter (a new clip) using the same menu, can I use TMPGenc DVD Author, or maybe do I need some other tool?. Thank you!

[manono]

Hi-

I'll assume you want to add a short clip before getting to the menu, or perhaps a short clip to play either before or after one of the videos on the DVD. If you want to add this clip into the middle of a video (PGC), then that's a bit more complicated.

First, author your clip to DVD. If the audio and video are already DVD compliant, then maybe use Muxman for the job.

Open the DVD in PGCEdit. Along the top row you'll see a button for Title. Click on it. To play a video before the menu comes up, hit "Import First-play (startup) Clip" and follow the easy instructions from there.

To make your clip play directly before or after one of the videos, first highlight that video in the left panel, and then go Title->Import Title's Intro/Closing Clip. And follow the easy instructions from there.

If you really want to add a clip into the middle of another video, I think the Split function of VobBlanker can create a new empty cell for you (by you splitting at the very beginning or end of a chapter), which you can later replace with the one you want, also using VobBlanker. That will mess up your chapters menu (if there is one), unless you fix it afterwards. I've never done this myself, so it's just idle speculation on my part.

[Bjs]

Astrogirl ... could you be a liitle more precise as to where this new clip is to actually be placed ... manono has given you a start for "add to start" , and "end" using pgcedit .

manono ... you nailed it quite well ... shoving thing's into the guts of titles' can mess thing's up if one's not careful .

I'd make the point in this case :

Be very aware of what the internals of the vob cell replacement contains if it's being injected via any method into a title vob .

The same video bitrate and format ... well , you can get away with bitrate ... but it would appear .
The same applies to audio and number's ... dvd players get upset if you screw about in here .
And subtitle's , and number of ... get this wrong , and sub's can suddenly fail to work from the edited point .

You need to match all that the title includes ... messing about here without knowing what your doing can foul the playback up from this point .

Messing with chapter menu problem's is the least problem to worry about as pgcedit can renegotiate this via menu nav editing and relinking .

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I'll run a few process later ... I think there's another underlying issue that might also appear with such "injection" ... but I need to confirm this first .

[Astrogirl]

All right, this is what I want to do: I have a full dvd in a disc burned, (menu, chapters), and I have a vob file that I want put in the dvd (re author it), as a chapter in the middle, after the 4th chapter, but I want keep the original menu (style and chapter names), for put the new chapter title on it.
I hope I could express myself a little better.

Thank you again!

[Bjs]

Got it ... I'll get into it after I reload my pc in the morning ... a piece of crap got in and now I cant run syncview , unless I jump onto the laptop to do so ... I wonder where that poor bugger went ... better tell them what it stuff's up .

Anyway ... I will get into it early ... it only takes me 20 minute's to reload the system from an image file .

Do us a fav ... if I dont get back here in 24 hour's , pm me ... it'll be done ... just I tend to get lost a lot more without my road map's ... lol .

The problem is from a starting point as there are two method's you might use .

1: Direct injection , no menu chapter connection , all associated issue's removed ... simpler .
2: You want the whole pudding , including a chapter menu link (that's quite a process , but simple for me)

The first one will be ready in 24 hour's .
But if you want the menu addition's , that will take a little longer to produce .

Ther's a guide on editing static menu's here about's , but if it's motion , there a pain in the you know where .

I have it writen down now .

[Bjs]

Issues still remain , most having to fall within the field of audio and subtitles (though subtitles are less of an issue) , unless you own specific tools , you have to take some shortcuts to get around them , but its best to avoid such things .

More likely to be assoiated with certain formats of audio which can only be created using commercial applications , but if its a home made dvd which dose not include such stream types , then issues are minimized .

Ifoedit , having been around for a very long time , is the only tool I trust when dealing with multiple audio and subtitles , for both pal or nstc formats , and while I have never had any issues with it , the streams being used must be acurate or it will display an error .

Both rejig and muxman can also be used , but are inferior when compared to ifoedit , but to save you time having to learn the in's and out's of ifoedit , you should use rejig instead .

However , rejig has an issue with either pal or nstc , I think it related to pal , so in that case , you would need to confirm any issue remaining with such tool's , as this would then give you the correct choice of tool when it comes to the reauthoring of the replacement content vob .

This is the guide I wrote a while back explaining the procedure for simple injection of extra content , and how I go about taking precautions with audio match up . I didnt include extra subtitle details as its another process I have yet to confirm .

I did say "simple" , but forgot , that it relates to myself , and not others , sorry about that one .

https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=322606

Seems a few people didnt read it correctly , and think it has to do with dl media , which is dosent .

Its for injecting extra content into an already authored dvd title , where the original raw components used to generate the dvd title , no longer exists . Plus the very fact , not many want to go through the entire process of having to completely dissasemble all the titles and menus , just for the purpose of the exercise .

It contains no information regarding any menu reauthoring or additions , but you need to make a decision as to ?

1: Where is the intended injection to take place , define cell numbers (chapter points) , likely to be invoved .

As there is no menu chapter point related to the extra content , you can either add it to the end of previous chapter , or to the start of the chapter following , your choice .

Even smack in the middle of an existing cell within the title , if its a requirement , which pgcedit and vobblanker can not handle .

I simply dont like the feature in vobblanker or pgedit for generating new cells in these particular positions when it resides within the actual titles between cell's , other places are acceptable .

You would reach a point where , in example , the original cell 4 of the title , and the new cell , need to be joined together after dealing with audio and any subtitles issues .

For that , its vobedit , it would be prefered , that those to be joined contain the exact same number of stream types prior to any joining method used .

Create a new folder , copy the original vob , cell 4 to here , rename to vs_01_000 .
Copy new cell to here , and rename to vts_01_001 .
This puts them in the prefered order of intended playback .

Create a new folder here , called output .

Run vobedit , load the original cell 4 from this new folder only .
Go to Edit , Join cellvob files .
Select folder "output" for file to be generated .

Load this new vob file in vobedit , and demux all streams into "output" folder .
Keep the video , audio , subtitles , and delete the other vobfiles created upto now .
You now need to run rejig , and author the components back together , as this will regenrate vobs , ifos and bups .

I would strongly suggest using vidchanger on this new vobcell after it is created .

Check what the original vob cells "vob id" was back in vobblanker , and use vidchanger to change the replacement vobcell's , vob id to match , then repeat the step , only this time , in this example , we used vobcell 4 , it's cell id must be changed to 4 , prior to it going anywhere near the injection phase of the already dvd authored content .

You may need to reload the cellvob in vidchanger after the vob id has been changed to perform the second part , or the first step is undone .

This , if not done , plays funny buggers during playback and chapter sellections .

Once all this is done , it's time to go back to vobblanker , and do the exchange of the old cell 4 , with the new updated cell 4 .

It's extensive as I do not believe in just throwing content directly into an already authored dvd title , as many problems can occure , such as pops and clicks , commonly associated with butting audio up "as is" , without taking into account how this can affect the players later .

We need to also make sure the video component is an absolute match , a perfect match only as this too can affect playback , which many do not mention or , have a clue about such events .

This is covered in the guide as well with a note on the use of quenc , incase it's required .

I can tell you , if these issues are not addressed prior to the creation and injection into the already authored vob title content , it can affect playability , thats guaranteed , sooner , rather than later .

There is a very small chance that the intended play back dvd unit may cope with such issues , but as this is not a "given" under any case , it is best to do the hard work , so as to be guaranteed , it dose indeed , comply 100% .

The final step is to load the project up in pgcedit , and if it reports no issues , save dvd , and play test in on the pc using more than one play back product . If it dose find issues , it is capable of resolving some , but in this case , if the procedures are followed correctly , there should be none found .

Under no circumstances allow fixvts anywhere near this title , its a unique tool , quite capable of the odd screwup if you dont watch it .

Koolplaya and avs dvd player are to freeware ones that do nicely for this pupose , even ifoedit can be used to playback the dvd , but has issues under xp , where some directshow filters for mpeg2_video decoding have a higher priority than others , which is what causes the issue .

I'll be doing more filter tests later .

Gspot can help setup the priority filter merit levels for directshow filters related to mpeg2_video decoding , just remember if you change these settings to write the filter down , and what its merit default was originally , so if it dosent work , you can reset it back to original state later .

As vobblanker was used for the replacement , and as there where no additions made to the menu structure , there should be no issue with the already included dvd navigational commands , this is why I suggest loading it up in pgcedit as a form of error trapping .

If all is well after play back testing , it can be safely burnt to media of choice .

Delete the files related to this dvd only after play back on home dvd player has been succesful .

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As mentioned before , it is simple to introduce extra content , either before or after the event , thanks to pgcedit , but to replace or inject new content directly into the title using vobblanker dose require taking certain precautions before hand .

This dose take time for first timers , but if there is a step you are worried about , just pm me on it and I will clarify any points oc concern .