Non avi resolution adjustment?

[uniks]

As you know I'm converting all non DVD movies to DVD format.
I know that when you want the proper resolution output like 720*576 and PAL 25fps you first have to use AviScript 2.9, and then input made .avs file into Cinema Craft Encoder SP2, but how do you do it when you have mpg file instead of avi?

If you input that mpg file into Ulead DVD Workshop 2 you get that unremovable check on Convert to disc template, so obviously I don't want that...

[uniks]

These are the properties of that mpg file-

Format : MPEG-1
Family : MPEG-1
File size : 1.22 GiB
PlayTime : 2h 4mn

Video #0
Codec : MPEG-1 Video
Codec settings : CustomMatrix
PlayTime : 2h 4mn
Bit rate : 1150 Kbps
Bit rate mode : CBR
Width : 352
Height : 240
Aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 29.97 fps
Interlacement : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.454
Delay : 33007

[jimmalenko]

Looks to me like you have an NTSC VCD-compliant MPEG as your source, which is also DVD-compliant as-is. It should just be a matter of using DirectShowSource() in your AVISynth script instead of AVISource().

[manono]

You can also make a D2V project file using DGIndex and then use the preferred MPEG2Source:

LoadPlugin("C:\Path\To\DGDecode.dll")
MPEG2Source("C:\Path\To\Video.d2v")

It handles all kinds of MPEGs, even MPEG-1:

http://neuron2.net/dgmpgdec/QuickStart.html
http://neuron2.net/dgmpgdec/DGIndexManual.html

[uniks]

@manono

I made .d2v file according to your given links, but when I opened that file with AviScript 2.9 I got this message-

which I previously fixed by installing AC3ACM...?
( https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?p=1650729#1650729 )

@jimmalenko

your advice seems simpler but I am not clear how to execute this part-

It should just be a matter of using DirectShowSource() in your AVISynth script instead of AVISource().

[uniks]

So put this text into a new text file you make called 'myvob.avs':

LoadPlugin("...\DGDecode.dll")
MPEG2Source("myvob.d2v")

Replace the path '...' in the first line with the path to the location where you placed DGDecode.dll.

Finally, use VirtualDub to open the 'myvob.avs' script file just as if it was an AVI file.

Of course this part worked, I was able to see the movie in Virtualdub but in usual faulty 1/4 of the screen because it wasn't in AviScrypt to adjust resolution and fps to PAL which is the whole point of this topic so I can finally put .avs file in Cinema Craft Encoder SP2.

[manono]

I have no idea what AVIScript is, and don't much care. You certainly don't need it to create an NTSC->PAL AviSynth script.

Of course this part worked, I was able to see the movie in Virtualdub but in usual faulty 1/4 of the screen because it wasn't in AviScrypt to adjust resolution and fps to PAL which is the whole point of this topic so I can finally put .avs file in Cinema Craft Encoder SP2.

I just gave you the script for opening it. You were the one having trouble with MPGs, not me. You then resize and set the framerate in the .avs. For your 352x240 4:3 NTSC MPG it's:

LanczosResize(704,576)
AddBorders(8,0,8,0)
AssumeFPS(25)
ConvertToYUY2()#if not already in YUY2 for CCE

You can get the scripts like that from FitCD.

You've got a big problem, though, and that's the 29.97fps framerate of the source MPG. I don't know if it can be IVTC'd or not back to 23.976fps, or if it's already been deinterlaced. I'd need a piece of the source to be sure. In any event, unless it can be IVTC'd, a 29.97->25fps conversion, no matter how you do it, is going to be imperfect. ConvertFPS(25) might be better, but will blend the heck out of it.

If you can post a small section of the source somewhere, I or someone else will be glad to have a look.

[uniks]

This all seems too complicated, I tried a lot of combinations with FitCD, the closest I came to was 1/2 thinner picture of the screen instead of usual 1/4.
What if I just convert .mpg to .avi and then use AviScript?

And what exactly do you mean by posting a source, aren't the properties from mediainfo enough?

[jimmalenko]

Don't mean to be harsh, but ...


I think the problem is that no-one who is conversant in AviScript has read this thread. My understanding of this program is that it helps you build AVISynth scripts without needing to be up to your ears in raw code. You unfortunately seem to be lost without your software holding your hand whilst the respondents in this thread are all conversant in raw scripting and so are shaking their heads at using a "dumb-it-down" tool.

Personally I think you'd be much better off ditching AVIScript altogether and at least then someone can give you a script pre-built so that all you need to do is cut and paste into notepad and change a filename here or there. At least that way someone can give you a "known good" script so that you don't have to reinvent the wheel.

[AlanHK]

As you know I'm converting all non DVD movies to DVD format.
I know that when you want the proper resolution output like 720*576 and PAL 25fps you first have to use AviScript 2.9, and then input made .avs file into Cinema Craft Encoder SP2, but how do you do it when you have mpg file instead of avi?

If you input that mpg file into Ulead DVD Workshop 2 you get that unremovable check on Convert to disc template, so obviously I don't want that...

The file spec you gave is MPEG1, which is already (almost) DVD compliant.

Running it through Avisynth and CCE and re-encoding it to MPEG2 will just degrade it and make it larger.

All you need to do is convert the audio to 48k sampling rate.

There are lots of ways to do this, but the simplest may be SVCD2DVDMPG. The free version works fine.

It'll separate out the MPEG1 video, and convert the audio. Author with these new files.

[manono]

All you need to do is convert the audio to 48k sampling rate.

Sure, if you plan on keeping it NTSC. He says clearly he wants PAL.

[AlanHK]

All you need to do is convert the audio to 48k sampling rate.

Sure, if you plan on keeping it NTSC. He says clearly he wants PAL.

Actually, he didn't. He said a "proper resolution output like 720*576 and PAL 25fps".
I read that as an example of a DVD resolution, not his actual target.

I have assumed he just wants to get his videos onto a DVD that will play in a standard DVD player. In PAL countries, almost all DVD players can digest NTSC, so there is no necessity to change formats.

Perhaps uniks can clarify if this is the case.

[uniks]

Sorry for not responding, I wasn't able to get to my computer.
Yes, I do need it to be in PAL.

You unfortunately seem to be lost without your software holding your hand

You are absolutely right.

So to close this up you are saying that I don't need to use Cinema Craft Encoder SP2 with this kind of file? If that's the case then I can just go with convert to template in Ulead DVD Workshop 2?

[manono]

And what exactly do you mean by posting a source, aren't the properties from mediainfo enough?

No it's not enough. The only way to tell what you have and how to treat it is to examine the frames. I mean for you to cut a 5-10 second piece of your source video and then upload it somewhere for us to have a look.

So to close this up you are saying that I don't need to use Cinema Craft Encoder SP2 with this kind of file?

Any MPEG-2 encoder can do the job, although it has to be set up properly. I've never used your Ulead encoder, but have done standards conversions using CCE, HCEnc and Procoder.

[AlanHK]

Yes, I do need it to be in PAL.

Why? Have you tried NTSC? I don't know about Croatia, but in other PAL countries, the TVs and players are normally able to use NTSC as well.
If you can use the NTSC MPEG1, you will save yourself an immense amount of hassle. A PAL conversion can only be lower quality.

[thecoalman]

I just tried this using Ulead Media Studio Pro, the encoder is going to have about the same options as you do on DVD Workshop. I have DVD Workshop 1.3 as well but I can't give you specific directions for 2 There may be better way to go about this. Import the NTSC video, there's an option somehwhere to export the video as a file only, 1.3 doesn't have this option hence the reson i can't give you specific directions. Convert it to a PAL video, using MPEG2 352x288 @2000kbps.... this of course you can play around with but I wouldn't change the resolution.

The one I made looks OK to me, there's no audio sync problems or video glitches. I haven't done any of these conversion myself except this one so perhaps someone with some more experience could tell you if it's a fair conversion under the circumstances.The quality however has suffered some because of the resolution resize. You're not going to be able to avoid that completely under any circumstances, you may get better results using something else....

Here's some sample clips:

NTSC VCD video (45MB): http://www.nepadigital.com/temp/NTSC_VCD.mpg

PAL Conversion (112MB): http://www.nepadigital.com/temp/PAL_MPEG2.mpg

Two things to note, it's 16:9 video so people are going to look tall and skinny and the camera is quite a ways back so there is a very slight delay in audio if you notice anything that doesn't look synced but that's present on the original file as well.

If you have a lot of NTSC videos I'd suggest taking the advice above, just put them all on one NTSC disc. FYI in case you aren't aware you can put multiple titles using different bitrates, resolutions and even aspects using DVDWS without having to convert any compliant video.