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    I'll probably drop a 300GB drive into this Polaroid.
    This is very easy. As one of the first few who tried it I can verify that it works well.

    You can also go external with both the HDD and the DVD burner. I am running two terabytes with the Polaroid now (eight 250GB drives). I set up an external drive enclosure to house both the Sony DVD burner and an IDE removable drive rack. It is black and to the right. Here's a pic:

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    I understand the concept of just swapping hard drives (and apparently the Polaroid is so friendly, you don't need to do anything special, it sees the new drive), but how exactly do you go about adding external devices to the unit? I'm not seeing any kind of USB2 or Firewire output from it?

    That little black box looks interesting. While I could probably figure it out, given enough time, I'm not too sure how you've gone about rigging up your setup. How does that work? Is the burner an extra burner, or a replacement?

    As somebody else has mentioned, I've modded machines before (LiteOn 5001, for example).
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  2. lordsmurf - review this thread:

    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=736151

    It documents my efforts from the beginning of the project to the enclosure that is posted above. It's a really cheap upgrade. Less than $100 all in.

    The only trick is reversing one IDE cable which is discussed in the thread I posted. Let me know if you have any questions.
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    You say on AVS that Polaroid has weaker then expected copy protection scheme. Could you comment?
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  4. Originally Posted by InXess
    You comment on AVS that Polaroid has weaker then expected copy protection scheme. Could you comment?
    This thread is a few months old but reviews my experience.

    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8580836&&#post8580836

    The Polaroid also does not see "copy once" or "copy never" flags from cable systems. If you notice in the picture above the Polaroid sits on top of a Toshiba. Toshiba is notorious for picking up flags. With the Polaroid staged between the cable box and the Toshiba the Toshiba does not pick up any flags. Nor copy protection if I use the Polaroid as a filter to the Toshiba based on my link posted i'e. same results with the Toshiba when the Polaroid is used as a filter.
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    With the Polaroid staged between the cable box and the Toshiba the Toshiba does not pick up any flags. Nor copy protection if I use the Polaroid as a filter to thye Toshiba based on my link posted.
    That's nice. Polaroid as a filter for my LG...? in a great Chinese manuf. tradition they concentrate on what's importand and toss away stuff like DRM/CPRM/Macrovision.
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  6. you think this recorder will recognize the Barracuda 7200.10 750GB,or the 1TB Hitachi Deskstar 7K1000 ?
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  7. The drives have to be IDE. I had trouble with a 500GB Maxtor. It may have been the size or that particular Maxtor. Not sure. I have been sticking with 250GB drives because anything bigger is almost too big to organize. Plus the 250's offer the most value for $'s right now.
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    You posted some pics on AVS would it be possible to have them here (w/o signing up with AVS)? I'd be especially interested in mainboard layout (detailed pics).
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  9. you need to be a member to see the pic's at AVS.

    btw. The recorder isn't available at Wal-Mart,or WALMART.COM anymore
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    @Next

    Polaroid is using a Domino chipset. In that regard is there a difference in rec. quality between Toshiba and Polaroid? How would you compare those two. Finally, if Polaroid is doing so well why Toshiba in your rig?
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  11. There are photos of the inside of the 2001G in this sticky.

    https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=279460

    Not sure if they are as detailed as Next's which I have not seen.

    [edit]This recorder is no longer at Walmart.com either as noted by MJA.
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    I bought mine at Walmart yesterday. There is another one or two still on the shelf. So it's not completely gone everywhere, not yet.

    Inxess, Toshiba is good too. While it does not use LSI, Toshiba has always been a quality machine. It's just the the newer XS-series machines with adjustable IRE are that much better. The LSI machines are still better for noise removal.

    I'm looking at this one:
    http://microcenter.com/byos/byos_single_product_results.phtml?product_id=247026
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    Seagate is quieter, better quality, long warranty... that would be my choice. I've read someone has installed Seagate either in Pioneer or Polaroid, no problem. (AVS Forum). As a test I would put any drive that you may have around your desk just to see... 250 GB is more then enough unless someone build a jukebox. Imagine editing/copying all that crap... 1 month worth of work and full time! Smaller HD forces you to backup sooner and I have no plans to upgrade my HD. 100 hrs in PVR and DVDR is just more then enough.

    Again, what makes "next" keep the two (DVDR's). I wonder what is it if not rec. quality etc.
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  14. I put a 500 GB Seagate drive in my Pioneer 531H to replace a Western Digital 80 GB Caviar drive. The noise levels seem about the same but it does have a five year warranty.

    The specification I checked most carefully with the replacement drive was the current consumption. The larger drives demand more current from the power supply of the recorder so there is a risk of increasing the mean time before failure. I measured the temperatures of the components that run hot in the power supply, including the supplies to the hdd ( +5V, -12V ) before and after to make sure there was no significant increase.
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    Yeah, I want a Seagate too, was checking out his one:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822148139

    But I'd prefer to get one when it's on sale in the $75-80 range.
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    Originally Posted by InXess
    Again, what makes "next" keep the two (DVDR's). I wonder what is it if not rec. quality etc.
    More recording options on the Toshiba, and at high quality.
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  17. Originally Posted by lordsmurf
    I bought mine at Walmart yesterday. There is another one or two still on the shelf. So it's not completely gone everywhere, not yet.

    Inxess, Toshiba is good too. While it does not use LSI, Toshiba has always been a quality machine. It's just the the newer XS-series machines with adjustable IRE are that much better. The LSI machines are still better for noise removal.

    I'm looking at this one:
    http://microcenter.com/byos/byos_single_product_results.phtml?product_id=247026

    lucky you. we have none at the Wal-mart near me since last month. alot of crappy v2000
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  18. Originally Posted by trhouse
    I put a 500 GB Seagate drive in my Pioneer 531H to replace a Western Digital 80 GB Caviar drive. The noise levels seem about the same but it does have a five year warranty.

    The specification I checked most carefully with the replacement drive was the current consumption. The larger drives demand more current from the power supply of the recorder so there is a risk of increasing the mean time before failure. I measured the temperatures of the components that run hot in the power supply, including the supplies to the hdd ( +5V, -12V ) before and after to make sure there was no significant increase.
    With my external HDD and DVD burner setup (with the Polaroid) I power both the HDD and the DVD burner independent of the Polaroid. As a result the Polaroid power supply is required to do very little. Also with both being external there is very little thermal build up inside the case of the Polaroid.

    Swapping HDD's is easy with the removable IDE drive rack. I currently use 8. Also swapping a burner is easy if required because of the external case. The Polaroid burner is powered down unplugged inside the Polaroid case. It is just sitting there filling up space. And I am not degrading the lens because it is powere down. It will always be "as new" if I ever choose to switch back to the internal burner.
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  19. Originally Posted by InXess
    Seagate is quieter, better quality, long warranty... that would be my choice. I've read someone has installed Seagate either in Pioneer or Polaroid, no problem. (AVS Forum). As a test I would put any drive that you may have around your desk just to see... 250 GB is more then enough unless someone build a jukebox. Imagine editing/copying all that crap... 1 month worth of work and full time! Smaller HD forces you to backup sooner and I have no plans to upgrade my HD. 100 hrs in PVR and DVDR is just more then enough.

    Again, what makes "next" keep the two (DVDR's). I wonder what is it if not rec. quality etc.
    With multiple HDD's I've made the decision to mostly archive right to the HDD's. I do much less burning than I used to. And I can set up HDD's by genre. For example "sports". Or what ever. I am using 8 HDD's at the moment (that can increase) but I can only use one at a time. So the other 7 can just sit on the shelf powered down - no degredation. I have set aside one HDD that I use for heavy editing and a lot of deleting of recorded material. I keep an eye on it for disc fragmentation. But a HDD going bad will never kill a Polaroid. Nor a burner going bad for that matter.

    Also by using HDD's to archive I am not limited to the 4.7GB barrier of an archival DVD disc. I can archive in the highest quality mode if I choose. And HDD's are 100% renewble as opposed to write once discs.

    With the external Sony DVD burner I can write from the HDD to the burner in about 10 minutes which is twice as fast as the stock Polaroid burner. Finalizing takes about a minute. So if I want portability via DVD disc it is a very fast process.

    Why Polaroid and Toshiba? They are both very different machines. Both with excellent PQ. The Polaroid offers the hardware flexability I want. The Toshiba offers every feature imaginable in a comsumer DVD recorder.
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  20. Originally Posted by lordsmurf
    I bought mine at Walmart yesterday. There is another one or two still on the shelf. So it's not completely gone everywhere, not yet.
    The serial number has a letter that ID's the build date. It is on the box. Post it and I may be able to let you know the pluses and minuses of what you have. Especially if there are a couple more on the shelf at Walmart. They will all be gone very soon.
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    Originally Posted by InXess
    You comment on AVS that Polaroid has weaker then expected copy protection scheme. Could you comment?
    Next, could you address this?
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    If you don't see a unit at Walmart, be sure to dig around..

    Display units can be found very cheap..... Some walmarts only give 10% off for , while the one close to me gave me 60% off ($100 was the price)....... The unit I bought was found under a Printer, of all places, in betreen 2 TVs... I was shocked to find it
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    You comment on AVS that Polaroid has weaker then expected copy protection scheme. Could you comment?
    Next, could you address this?
    I did. Look at my earlier post in this thread. I posted a link to AVS that summerizes my experience.
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    Hey, all.

    I'm new here although I've been reading posts for a while.

    I saw the tread on this Polaroid box and got pretty jazzed about it. The local Walmart had four or five in stock so I dashed over and grabbed one.

    After making room for the little machine, rerouting cables and doing a small bit of cussing I had everything set up. Imagine my surprise when I was greeted by horizontal scrolling and severe tearing of the image.

    I called Polariod CS and found that the 2001G isn't compatable with ANY HD reciever, end of discussion.

    Talk about an exercise in futility.

    Can you guys tell me if any of the current crop of DVD recorders with a native hard drive will work with an HD reciever?

    Thanks a bunch.
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    Hey, all.

    I'm new here although I've been reading posts for a while.

    I saw the tread on this Polaroid box and got pretty jazzed about it. The local Walmart had four or five in stock so I dashed over and grabbed one.

    After making room for the little machine, rerouting cables and doing a small bit of cussing I had everything set up. Imagine my surprise when I was greeted by horizontal scrolling and severe tearing of the image.

    I called Polariod CS and found that the 2001G isn't compatable with ANY HD reciever, end of discussion.

    Talk about an exercise in futility.

    Can you guys tell me if any of the current crop of DVD recorders with a native hard drive will work with an HD reciever?


    Thanks a bunch.
    Your exercise it futility could have been avoided. No DVD recorders distributed in North America can record a high definition video signal. And this won't change in the near future. Perhaps never.

    But the Polaroid is the only HDD recorder that has component inputs (that I can find). This would have allowed you to record an HD channel in full widescreen 16x9 image at 480i.

    This is extremely unique for a HDD recorder. Perhaps one of a kind.

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    You mean record in High Definition? You didn't read the sticky at the top of the forum on DVD recorders....it says no, you can't do that. Best wait to see if a High Definition recorder will be released that is able to do that......
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    Interesting... this little machine won't even display the image from an NON HD channel from my Dish HD receiver.

    The pass-through is great, picture image is perfect but once I turn the recorder on the image scrolls to the left at a remarkable rate.

    Oh, well. I guess I'll pay the big bucks for the Dish ViP 622.

    Thanks!
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    Originally Posted by next

    But the Polaroid is the only HDD recorder that has component inputs (that I can find). This would have allowed you to record an HD channel in full widescreen 16x9 image at 480i.

    This is extremely unique for a HDD recorder. Perhaps one of a kind.

    Read better next time.
    LG LRH 780/790 is another one. Isn't it rather the output ?
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  29. Originally Posted by mach3man
    Interesting... this little machine won't even display the image from an NON HD channel from my Dish HD receiver.

    The pass-through is great, picture image is perfect but once I turn the recorder on the image scrolls to the left at a remarkable rate.

    Oh, well. I guess I'll pay the big bucks for the Dish ViP 622.

    Thanks!
    You have to learn how to set the output resolution on your Dish HD, When recording to the Polaroid (or any other) it has to be set to 480i if you are using component inputs of the recorder.

    It's not the Polaroid it's you.

    You have some more reading to do!
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  30. Originally Posted by InXess
    Originally Posted by next

    But the Polaroid is the only HDD recorder that has component inputs (that I can find). This would have allowed you to record an HD channel in full widescreen 16x9 image at 480i.

    This is extremely unique for a HDD recorder. Perhaps one of a kind.

    Read better next time.
    LG LRH 780/790 is another one.
    Great. I was not aware of that. I'll have to give it a look. Very rare. Take care of it.
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