AVI to DVD w/CCE, Resulting Bitrate Too High?

[staindrocks]

Every time i convert an AVI to DVD using CCE 2.70 and then try to author with TMPGEnc DVD Author 1.6, this message pops up:
The combined bitrate of the clip exceeds the upper limit for a standard DVD.
The combined bitrate of the video and audio is exceeding the upper limit for a standard DVD.
The current bitrate is video: 9800kbps, audio: 256kbps, combined: 10056kbps.
The combined video and audio bitrate can be no more than 9.848Mbps (9848kbps).

I checked my clip in GSpot, and sure enough, it says the bitrate for my video is 9800. I don't understand why this is, since i encoded with CCE with the following settings:
MPEG 2 for DVD
Multipass VBR(4 passes), V/C=24
Min Bitrate - 500
Max Bitrate - 9000
Avg Bitrate - 6085

Some info on the AVI clip i was trying to convert to DVD:
Codec= XviD
Size= 700MB
Bitrate= 953kbps
Framerate= 29.971
Aspect Ratio= 4:3
Resolution= 512x384
Length= 1:29:50

What could i be doing wrong to get a final resulting file with a bitrate of 9800kbps?

[manono]

Ignore it and go ahead and author. It doesn't know what the combined bitrate is until it authors. It's just reading a figure from the header which doesn't mean much of anything.

The combined video and audio bitrate can be no more than 9.848Mbps (9848kbps).

That's not even correct.

[staindrocks]

Is that also what GSpot is reading? Thanks for answering so fast!

[Krispy Kritter]

From the information you provided above, your avi bitrate is 9xx kbps NOT 9xxxkbps (as in hundred not thousand)

[jman98]

Get the free version of the Teco Bit Rate viewer at http://www.tecoltd.com and see what it thinks the maximum bit rate is. I use Gspot, but I'd verify that setting of 9800 with the Teco product. CCE is not known at all for ignoring maximum bit rate settings. In fact, it is one of the few encoders that actually will respect this setting. Maybe your header is messed up somehow. If you buy the commercial version of the Teco program, it can allow you to fix header problems, but maybe there is a free program out there than can do it that I don't know about.

Krispy Kritter - The bitrate of 953 is for the SOURCE AVI, not the final MPEG-2 encode.

[vico1]

I've seen that "combined video and audio bitrate" flag with TMPGEnc DVD Author too...
Never had a prob continuing & using...ignore it.

[staindrocks]

@jman
I checked with BitrateViewer and it said the following:
Avg Bitrate= 5759
Peak Bitrate= 8851

But in the info it lists under the 'General' tab, it says:
Nom. bitrate: 9800000 Bit/Sec

I'm guessing this is what my authoring program is reading. I'm not sure what 'Nom' stands for, but i'm guessing Nominal Bitrate(which i still have no idea what that means)?

[manono]

Nominal Bitrate is the max bitrate as set in the video (and not by the encoder). As you guessed, that's what TDA is reading. As I said before, it means nothing. It's just a figure. You want to make it a different figure and make TDA happy? Just open the M2V in ReStream and change the bitrate figure in the upper right to 9000 or whatever you like.

I consider this a bug in TDA. Haven't you authored by now? Did you have any problems?

Although you're using TMPGEnc to encode, what CCE has to say about it in its manual applies:

In DVD Mode, when you select VBR, 9800 is always written as the maximum bitrate in the sequence header of output MPEG files, whatever value you may set. However, some authoring softwares seem to calculate the bitrate for a DVD using this 9800 kbps as the video bitrate...Note that the actual bitrate does not exceed your maximum bitrate setting, even if 9800 is written in the sequence header.

[staindrocks]

I did author already and it plays fine on my computer, but i haven't checked on standalone dvd player. My dvd player is broke, and i've been too lazy to go get another.