Why do we use DVD Rip Tools?

[Sean_ve99]

I have a question about DVD rip tools and I hope to find my answer here.
It was said DVD rip tools like DVD decrypter is an application for decrypting and copying DVD to hard disk, right?
But we don’t need an application for copy DVD to hard disk, if we want to do it we could simply copy VIDEO_TS folder and paste it in hard disk, at first I thought I couldn’t use this method for all DVD-Video because of protection but I checked it with more than 20 DVD-Video and result was the same.
We usually copy DVD to hard disk because we want to convert DVD to other format, it was said DVD rip tools like DVD decrypter find main movie in DVD but it is not difficult and we also could find main movie in DVD-Video, I converted some DVD-video to other format with this method by TMPGEnc and ProCoder without any DVD rip tools.
I really don’t know what is main usage of DVD rip tools and I hope anybody explain it for me.
Thanks

[mats.hogberg]

You either have AnyDVD (or similar) running, or all 20 disks you've copied have been unprotected.

/Mats

[Sean_ve99]

No, I don’t have Any DVD or similar application, I just went to DVD-Video and copy VIDEO_TS folder and paste it in my hard disk but you mean that we can not copy all DVD to hard disk in this way? Please explain more, I have never experienced it.
Maybe because of that I still don’t know main usage of DVD rip tools.

[dphirschler]

Have you tried to view (or otherwise use) the video after you copied it over?


Darryl

[Sean_ve99]

Yes. Of course, I converted some DVD-video to DV AVI, result was very good.

[VegasBud]

Shahram,

If you "...don’t have Any DVD or similar application..." running, that only leaves mats.hogberg's second solution: "...all 20 disks you've copied have been unprotected". Most recent copy protected (commercial) disks can't even be copied over to the hard drive, much less work, which is why everyone uses a ripping program.

[Sean_ve99]

Really? Thanks for your explanation. But you mean was that we can not copy these protected disks to hard or we can copy them but not work?

[Cornucopia]

Either or Both.

With standard CSS, you can copy but the results would be unusable.
With RipGuard (an poss. ARCCOS?) you can't even copy.

Scott

[hech54]

No, I don’t have Any DVD or similar application, I just went to DVD-Video and copy VIDEO_TS folder and paste it in my hard disk but you mean that we can not copy all DVD to hard disk in this way? Please explain more, I have never experienced it.
Maybe because of that I still don’t know main usage of DVD rip tools.

1) Then you are NOT dealing with a factory pressed commercial DVD. You are either dealing with a bootleg copy(but factory pressed) or a recordable DVD(DVD-R, DVD+R)....plain and simple.
2) I still use DVD Rip Tools (like DVDDecrypter) on non-protected DVDs. You can "rip" certain portions in several different ways(seperate by chapter, with NO seperation at all leaving you with one giant lump of video, taking only the audio and not the video, taking only the video and not the audio....etc etc etc). Rippers are (still) a very valuable tool for video work.

[VegasBud]

I can imagine circumstances where perfectly legal dvds might not be copy protected. Take, for example, China...where Fox is selling new releases for the equivalent of $1.25 (about the same as what the consumer pays for a bootleg). If they put copy protection on the disks:

1) Their product would have less value to the customers they are desperately trying to woo away from the bootleggers.
2) Their already meager profits would shrink even further, or disappear (copy protection isn't free).

[Cornucopia]

There are a number of Major Hollywood titles that aren't copy-protected, simply because they're re-issues of older (and probably PUBLIC DOMAIN) material. I have at least 6 in my own collection.

Scott

[dphirschler]

I believe the "Baby Einstein" videos aren't copy protected. At least they didn't used to be.


Darryl

[mats.hogberg]

Many even new Swedish movie DVD releases are unprotected. Not uncommon. But 20 unprotected out of 20 seems like a little too high percentage for your average commercial DVD.

/Mats