The BEST Way To Play & Record Xbox 360 Through Your PC?

[Digital-Overload]

Well I am looking at getting the Intensity PRO for recording my Shows off of my MOTOROLA DCH3416. I sold my 360 but may look into getting another one when the price drops on them in the future. But one of my best friends is a pro Halo player and would love to get this for video capture from the game. I have a quick question though. Will the Intensity also record the audio from the HDMI cable or do you need to record separately?

I Havent Tested this (YET), but Im aiming at recording from my Motorola DCT6416 RevIII DVR.

Basically, Im gonna setup a Switch YPrPb to the Intensity Pro, then Hook the 360, and DVR/Cable Box To the Switch. That way i dont have to keep re-connecting cables behind my PC.

I think you have to set the DVR to FORCE 720P (upsample SD), Im Not Sure, I havent gotten the intensity to respond well to SD/480P.

[Peerless Thought]

For the most part I want to record in 720p at 30fps. I would save most a lot of the content but for the most part it would be down converted to 480 x 272 for me and my son's PSP's. Can it handle 720p pretty good, over HDMI? I also have no problem with using component if that is what it takes to capture it.

[Rowan88]

Hi,

I recently just posted a topic about capturing xbox to pc, can someone please help me out:

https://forum.videohelp.com/topic343676.html#1796094

I never seen this but I had a read and my question isnt answered here so my topic should be ok.

[SHS]

Hasd any one look at the Canopus HDRECS

[gschwendt]

Digital-Overload, glad you're being a great guinea pig for the Intensity Pro. I've been interested in this product for a little while but not quite ready to make the jump. I do a lot of video capture from my PS3, currently using a HAVA to capture in D1 (but on TV it plays in HD). I'd love to be able to capture in HD, most specifically for screen caps of gameplay.

Just to be clear, you're capturing over component so that HDCP is no issue, correct? I assume the HDCP is problematic on the HDMI connection from the 360.

Also, I don't have quite as beefy as a processor as you on the PC side but wondering what's most important when capturing... RAM, CPU, or drive speed? I have 4GB of RAM, but my processor is an AMD 4200 dual core... do I have to assume that my processor wouldn't be fast enough? The plan for me isn't to capture at 60fps or anything, most likely 720p at 30fps would be suitable. Did I read correctly that you're getting file sizes at about 1GB per minute? That's not bad results... most of my captures would be roughly 1 hour (I capture football video games typically).

Would love to hear more about your setup and/or any of the results you're getting. I keep tempting myself into getting this product but in the end it'd be paying the $350 just to capture HD screen caps.

[norm360]

Great job on uploading those samples Digital-Overlord.

Can I ask, when capturing, are you able to monitor the audo in real-time on your PC, without any delay?

Also, I understand the BlackMagic Intensity has a pass-through HDMI port, allowing you to monitor footage, does this have any kind of delay?

[Digital-Overload]

yup, right now im usign component to bypass HDCP,

i have My 5 Port HD Switch plugged into my Intensity pro's YPrPb Inputs, i use the Sound Blaster Live Card for Audio,

I'm Recording to MJPEG 720p/60 frames A Sec using virtual dub, I can play Xbox / PS3 / Xbox 360 While I record, (a simple pressing of the "F5" button starts and "ESC" stops,

same with HD Cable, I've got stuff recorded but I can post that content, against ToS.

[Digital-Overload]

Well I am looking at getting the Intensity PRO for recording my Shows off of my MOTOROLA DCH3416. I sold my 360 but may look into getting another one when the price drops on them in the future. But one of my best friends is a pro Halo player and would love to get this for video capture from the game. I have a quick question though. Will the Intensity also record the audio from the HDMI cable or do you need to record separately?

Recording 720P from the Moto DVR Works, Just dont Use HDMI, use component cables.

I've recorded several Music Performances already, and Im trying to get my system stable to do some Music Videos from MHD.

[norm360]

I don't understand why Microsoft enforce HDCP when playing video games. Is that REALLY necessary?

Any cheap means of removing HDCP from HDMI?

EDIT(1):Cheapest solution I can find at nearly $440 - http://www.spatz-tech.de/spatz/HDMI-4i_13.htm

EDIT(2): The above unit requires HDCP on the output display. So it seems Spatz have stopped selling the device that remove the HDCP signal.

[ArcticMark]

can someone tell me how a HAVA would work?
a simple diagram would really help cause im new to this stuff
just what cables go in and what come out and if i can still play in HD on my TV

[mkenny5]

Really need help on capturing from my Xbox 360. Hope you guys can help.

I'm using an Blackmagic Intensity Pro. I've got 2 Xbox 360s, 1 with HDMI and the other with Component.

If I hook 1 of them using component/HDMI, I'm not getting any visual on my PC. I've tried Vegas, Premiere Pro & Virtual Dub.


I don't know where I'm going wrong.

Any help would be great.

[Digital-Overload]

Really need help on capturing from my Xbox 360. Hope you guys can help.

I'm using an Blackmagic Intensity Pro. I've got 2 Xbox 360s, 1 with HDMI and the other with Component.

If I hook 1 of them using component/HDMI, I'm not getting any visual on my PC. I've tried Vegas, Premiere Pro & Virtual Dub.


I don't know where I'm going wrong.

Any help would be great.

Start, Control Panel, Click the Intensity Icon, Under Select Input, Choose Y, RY, BY Video w/ RCA Input. For Component. restart any programs.

It took me a few hours to figure out to change the input at the control panel, i kept looking for hte toopion in the programs.

[Jomy08]

Digital-Overload, hopefully you're still around reading this thread, as i have a question to ask

i'm also thinking about getting an Intensity Pro card and my main concern is about hard drives. i don't have a raid capable motherboard, I have a single 500gb sata2 7200rpm 16mb hard drive, intel core2 duo e6750, 2gb(1gb x2) ddr2 800 ram (in dual channel) and an ati radeon hd2600xt 256mb gddr3.

I think you mentioned it, but i really want to be sure before taking any more steps (or even keep thinking about getting a hd capture card ), so... are you recording and previewing at the same time 720p/60fps using a single sata2 drive with no problems? using mjpg compression/raw data?


and well, this is for anyone to answer. Would a pci-e card with 2 sata2 ports in raid 0 configuration help? i'm not sure if via a pci-e card, a raid 0 configuration would be as useful as another one via the motherboard.

Thanks

[I Chucky X]

I have just stumbled across the same problem, wanting to record thru my dazzle 150 capture card in SDef but play the game in HDef without running thru the pc first (due to delay). I was thinking of trying to simply bridge the switch on the output cable from my xbox360 so both signals carry through at the same time. Then just send component to tv and composites to capture card. The xbox must send both signals out as the cable has the switch on it not the xbox, or am i being naive and maybe the output pins are shared by both composite and component?? i dont know but im gonna get my screwdriver and stanley knife out, wish me luck! Ill let you know what happens.

[edDV]

Digital-Overload, hopefully you're still around reading this thread, as i have a question to ask

i'm also thinking about getting an Intensity Pro card and my main concern is about hard drives. i don't have a raid capable motherboard, I have a single 500gb sata2 7200rpm 16mb hard drive, intel core2 duo e6750, 2gb(1gb x2) ddr2 800 ram (in dual channel) and an ati radeon hd2600xt 256mb gddr3.

I think you mentioned it, but i really want to be sure before taking any more steps (or even keep thinking about getting a hd capture card ), so... are you recording and previewing at the same time 720p/60fps using a single sata2 drive with no problems? using mjpg compression/raw data?


and well, this is for anyone to answer. Would a pci-e card with 2 sata2 ports in raid 0 configuration help? i'm not sure if via a pci-e card, a raid 0 configuration would be as useful as another one via the motherboard.

Thanks

The Intensity manual lists the uncompressed sustained data rates your RAID needs to achieve.


You need to design your RAID for sustained rate. Otherwise use the realtime MJPEG compression.

A single Raptor can hit ~90-120 MB/s but probably not over the full platter length. You need safety margin which means 2 drives minimum.

[Digital-Overload]

Digital-Overload, hopefully you're still around reading this thread, as i have a question to ask

i'm also thinking about getting an Intensity Pro card and my main concern is about hard drives. i don't have a raid capable motherboard, I have a single 500gb sata2 7200rpm 16mb hard drive, intel core2 duo e6750, 2gb(1gb x2) ddr2 800 ram (in dual channel) and an ati radeon hd2600xt 256mb gddr3.

I think you mentioned it, but i really want to be sure before taking any more steps (or even keep thinking about getting a hd capture card ), so... are you recording and previewing at the same time 720p/60fps using a single sata2 drive with no problems? using mjpg compression/raw data?


and well, this is for anyone to answer. Would a pci-e card with 2 sata2 ports in raid 0 configuration help? i'm not sure if via a pci-e card, a raid 0 configuration would be as useful as another one via the motherboard.

Thanks

The Intensity manual lists the uncompressed sustained data rates your RAID needs to achieve.


You need to design your RAID for sustained rate. Otherwise use the realtime MJPEG compression.

A single Raptor can hit ~90-120 MB/s but probably not over the full platter length. You need safety margin which means 2 drives minimum.

ok Fellas, I've gotten my Methodas pretty much Solid, but right now my Xbox360 is in McAllenTX/Mexico Getting fixed (yup RRoD),

anyway, I Can record 60 Frames/Sec MJPEG 720P Fine, and 30 Frames/Sec 720P RAW AVI Fine.

Im Using Virtual Dub To Record and Compress to 720p DiVX Files (To Host On Stage 6), I Do Have some PC Footage on Stage 6 now, Im just waiting for my 360 to come back to record footage.
( http://www.stage6.com/user/SkateZilla/videos/ ) (I think they are doing maintenance though)


My System:
Tuniq Symetry I Case
(Kama BAY Mod w/ 120mm 130+CFM Intake, 120mm 130+ CFM Exhaust, 120 80 CFM Fan In front of HDDs, 80 MB Side Window Fan, 120 80 CFM Fan Blowing on GFX/Intensity/Mobo Aux Chipset)

MSI K9N SLi Platninum (nVidia nFORCE 570 SLi MCP)

AMD Athlon X2 6000+
(Records Fine at stock speeds and OC' to 3210 [214x15 @1.4v], Zalman CNPS 9700NT Cooled, 25-30 Idle, 30-40 Load ^C)

Corsair CM2X1024-6400 1.9v, Ver 5.2 DDR-800 Ram @ 5-5-5-12-2T w/ Heatspreader.
(Runing at DDR-750 Thanks to AMD CPU Multiplier : FSB Ratio, Runs DDR 800 OC'd though. )

eVGA Geforce 8800 GTS w/ S.S.C. 640 MB (G80),
(OC'd to, 750 MHz GPU, 1200 MHz RAM, 1500MHz Shader, Stock Clocks are 575MHz, 900MHz, 1350 MHz)

2x Seagate 500 GB 7200.1 SATA - II 3 Gb/sec Harddisks w/ 16 MB Cache.
(1 = Previous Harddisks Backed up to one (they were all Ata's), Other One = Dedicated Video Capture Drive. )

1x Western Digital 250 GB SATA - II 3 Gb/Sec w/ 8 MB Cache.
(Windows/program Files)


http://www.overclock.net/system.php?i=20592

[BennyTheBuff]

Has anybody got any info on why we can't capture 5.1 audio off the Intensity Pro? It's there in the signal, and the Blackmagic capture settings popup window in Premiere Pro even has 5.1 as a capture option. It still only captures stereo, however.

[Digital-Overload]

Testing with DiVx now:

http://www.stage6.com/user/SkateZilla/video/2230967/GRAW-2---Xbox-360-HD-Test-2

[Mysteriouskk]

Do you know why when I capture off my wii at 480p, there are black bars on the left and right sides of the video? I capture at 720x480, using D-terminal cables.

When I use regular component cables on my TV, just to play, there are no black bars.

http://www.vimeo.com/user354366/videos

Is there some weird thing I have to change for 480p videos to make it stretch out right or something?

[Cortexlegeni]

Hello Mysteriouskk

Can you please tell me with what are you recording at 480p because I want to do the same but I can't find any card doing it.

And did you tried capturing PSP footage using component ?

Thanks

Cortex

[Digital-Overload]

i still cant get 480p to Tune, ....

[Mysteriouskk]

Hello Mysteriouskk

Can you please tell me with what are you recording at 480p because I want to do the same but I can't find any card doing it.

And did you tried capturing PSP footage using component ?

Thanks

Cortex

I'm using the Sknet Monster X card to capture 480p sources. I can't capture PSP footage because I need a D-terminal cable for that, which I don't wish to buy right now.

[richardlylow]

Hi,

I recently bought a HDMI 1 to 2 Splitter but was unable to split the signal from the XBOX 360 elite to both my HD TV and my to my Intensity pro card.

I could only split to either one of the outputs while the other screen remains blank.

Anyone know if its possible to split the signals from the XBOX 360 elite?

I'm still trying to troubleshoot to see if it is a problem with my splitter or with my HDMI cables.

[grdSavant]

Hi,

I recently bought a HDMI 1 to 2 Splitter but was unable to split the signal from the XBOX 360 elite to both my HD TV and my to my Intensity pro card.

I could only split to either one of the outputs while the other screen remains blank.

Anyone know if its possible to split the signals from the XBOX 360 elite?

I'm still trying to troubleshoot to see if it is a problem with my splitter or with my HDMI cables.

The Gefen 1x2 splitter, for example, requires both displays to have the same resolution capability. The EDD information is read from the primary display and that info is used then for both the primary and the secondary display. Otherwise, they say, one of the displays will show black.

[wabjxo]

The Gefen 1x2 splitter, for example, requires both displays to have the same resolution capability. The EDD information is read from the primary display and that info is used then for both the primary and the secondary display. Otherwise, they say, one of the displays will show black.

What is "EDD Information"?

[mumsix]

hi, just a quick question... i have ordered an elite and also plan on doing some capturing on the pc. unfortunately the intensity is still too much money just a capture card for me.
so, i have a little pinnacle card with s-video input and wondered whether it is possible to have the xbox doing two signal outputs simultaneously: console <-- hdmi --> tv AND console <-- other output (default one: component BUT replaced with s-video plug) --> capture card?

thanks for your help

[edDV]

hi, just a quick question... i have ordered an elite and also plan on doing some capturing on the pc. unfortunately the intensity is still too much money just a capture card for me.
so, i have a little pinnacle card with s-video input and wondered whether it is possible to have the xbox doing two signal outputs simultaneously: console <-- hdmi --> tv AND console <-- other output (default one: component BUT replaced with s-video plug) --> capture card?

thanks for your help

No. Must be same resolution. That is the whole point of this thread.

You can output HD <OR> SD, <NOT> both.

[mumsix]

ok thanks

but if i had a capture with component input (does this even exist?) it should work?

[edDV]

ok thanks

but if i had a capture with component input (does this even exist?) it should work?

At HD resolutions?

That gets you into BM Intensity* or higher and maybe the new Hauppauge (untested) or Gefen (untested).

SD component capture requires that you run the game 480i SD or buy a HD->480i downconverter like the HAVA.

For 480i SD component capture, see the newest ADS Pyro.


* BM Intensity is more than a card. You need a RAID for uncompressed capture or run MJPEG or Cineform real time encoding (CPU intensive). Then you need edit/encoding software that can import MJPEG or Cineform at HD resolutions.

[mumsix]

ok thanks

but if i had a capture with component input (does this even exist?) it should work?

At HD resolutions?

That gets you into BM Intensity* or higher and maybe the new Hauppauge (untested) or Gefen (untested).

SD component capture requires that you run the game 480i SD or buy a HD->480i downconverter like the HAVA.

For 480i SD component capture, see the newest ADS Pyro.


* BM Intensity is more than a card. You need a RAID for uncompressed capture or run MJPEG or Cineform real time encoding (CPU intensive). Then you need edit/encoding software that can import MJPEG or Cineform at HD resolutions.

i guess this only applies for actually recording (raw) videos but not just taking screenshots