Nero Vs. Divx

[TheCarter]

First of all.. I'm new to this forum and only browsed it for about 30 minutes so forgive me if this topic has been previously answered. I'm also kinda new to burning Divx avi files to DVD.

Well I downloaded what I guess was a Divx avi movie file. When I previewed it on my computer, I noticed that the Audio and Video were out of sync. I thought maybe if I burned it on a DVD it would play right on my TV. So I did using the latest version of Nero Vision. Well long story short it played out of sync on TV also. The Sync was about 15 seconds off, Audio coming before the video.

So I googled the problem and found out that windows needed a codec to play Divx movies correctly. So I went to www.Divx.com and downloaded and installed their windows compatability software.

Now when I play back the video in WMP or MPC.. the Audio and Video is perfectly in sync. So I tried opening the same AVI file in Nero Showtime and it was still about 15 seconds off. So I guess I kinda put 2 and 2 together and started looking for a Nero Divx codec. I found and downloaded the Nero Mega Plugin Pack which stated that it made Nero compatible with Divx playback. When I opened the same movie file with Nero Showtime again, what was once 15 seconds out of sync is now about 5 seconds off.

Am I not doing something right or is there any known problems with Divx playback and recording with Nero?

Thanks for the replies in advance

TommyG

[guns1inger]

Nero used to be a burner. That was all it did, but it did it well. Then it took the swiss army knife approach to all things video and audio related. Except that a Swiss Army Knife is a useful tool that does many things well, while Nero has become just a tool of a product that does very little well.

In short, Nero Showtime is a poor excuse for a video player - IMO worse than Windows Media Player - and nothing it does badly would surprise me. Don't use it. There are many better options available.

[jagabo]

And codec packs should be avoided. They often install conflicting codecs, file splitters, filters, etc.

Use AVICodec or GSpot to identify the audio and video codecs used in your file. Then download and install those specific codecs.

[Jeremiah58]

Am I not doing something right or is there any known problems with Divx playback and recording with Nero?TommyG

The problem that you have encountered is usually related to VBR audio inside a DiVX (AVI) file.
You can use Virtualdub tools to open and check your AVI video for that.
There is plenty of readings here on how to deal with VBR audio (variable bit rate audio) and how to fix it.

If you wish to use Nero Vision to convert DiVX files to DVD, you have to fix problems with VBR audio first.

Nero Showtime player is primarily intended to be used as a DVD and Nero Digital player and it is good for that purpose.

[TheCarter]

Thanks for the quick responses.

Guns, I have been working with Nero for almost a decade. And trust me I liked it better as a 50Mb burning rom than the 400Mb shishkabob it has become. But Nero is to burning as Nike is to BBall shoes. I have 100% faith in them although there might be a few defects, but that is with any company.

I dont use Nero for anything except burning, But.. if a file if faulty in Nero playback, it will ultimately be faulty in recording. I like the simplistic way that Nero lets me make a DVD, before I used to just copy the movie file on to Discs. Now I'm using Nero to make menus with custom backgrounds and music. I know there are probly 1 million other ways to do this, but this is all I know.

Jegabo, appreciate the tip. I tried a little bit to avoid it.. lol I got desperate after I saw all the errors when I tried to open the Divx in MPC

Jeremiah58, VirtualDub has detected a improper VBR audio encoding in the source AVI file (Audio Stream 1). The current preference is to rewrite the audio header with standard CBR value during processing for better compatibility. This may introduce up to 171260ms of skew from the video stream. If this is unacceptable, decompress the *entire* audio stream to an uncompressed WAV file and recompress with a constant bitrate encoder. (bitrate 162.1+34.0kbps) Do you still want to rewrite the header? Yes/No

Maybe if I read this 100 times over it would make sence to me lol. I bet you guys read this fluent but I'd be better of with a spanish book.

If this is gonna be a big deal where I have to go through decompressing and re-encoding for 5 of 10 movies or more, I will just look for a different program. I just want to know if there is one simple thing I can do for a long term fix.

Once again, thanks for the replies in advance

[jagabo]

VirtualDub has detected a improper VBR audio encoding in the source AVI file (Audio Stream 1). The current preference is to rewrite the audio header with standard CBR value during processing for better compatibility. This may introduce up to 171260ms of skew from the video stream. If this is unacceptable, decompress the *entire* audio stream to an uncompressed WAV file and recompress with a constant bitrate encoder. (bitrate 162.1+34.0kbps) Do you still want to rewrite the header? Yes/No

Maybe if I read this 100 times over it would make sence to me lol. I bet you guys read this fluent but I'd be better of with a spanish book.

You can usually do this within VirtualDubMod:

1) File -> Open Video file, choose file, answer NO when asked about the header.
2) Video -> Direct Stream Copy
3) Streams -> Stream List
4) Right click on audio stream, select Full Processing Mode
5) If you want compressed audio right click on audio stream select Compression... select codec and settings. If you're just making an intermediate file to open with some other encoder leave it uncompressed.
6) File -> Save as.. to save as AVI.

If the audio isn't synchronized when done, repeat but answer YES when asked if you want to rewrite the header.

[Jeremiah58]

If this is gonna be a big deal where I have to go through decompressing and re-encoding for 5 of 10 movies or more, I will just look for a different program. I just want to know if there is one simple thing I can do for a long term fix.

Long term fix:

1. solution - if you wish to watch DiVX (AVI) files on your TV, do yourself a favor and buy a DVD player with DivX support (40 $ or so) and forget about encoding, VBR audio, Nero and any other software. Just burn AVis on DVD and enjoy. Recommended.

2. solution - if you still want to hustle and convert AVIs to DVD, being a noobie, I would suggest to use VSO DivXtoDVD (freeware) or more advanced version of this program VSO ConvertXToDVD (shareware). VSO programs deal with VBR audio pretty good.

[TheCarter]

Well guys I'm thinking this might not be a sync issue. Well maybe kinda. After watching the file a few times over, I've noticed that the video portion is moving slower than it should be. Has anyone had issues similar to these?

[InXess]

I'd say there's nothing wrong with NeroVision. You can't expect an application written for a specific purpose - DVD, mpg playback etc. to anticipate and fix all sorts of incompatibilities arising from using a mangled mix of formats that someone chose to throw into their video "production". Majority of encoding and playback issues are stemming from DviX/Xvid internet subculture and general lack of knowledge how to use the tools to make a compatible, error free product. Jeremiah58 suggestion to use ConvertXtoDVD is correct - this program has the ability to decipher and address most issues on the fly.

[SCDVD]

I'd say there's nothing wrong with NeroVision. You can't expect an application written for a specific purpose - DVD, mpg playback etc. to anticipate and fix all sorts of incompatibilities arising from using a mangled mix of formats that someone chose to throw into their video "production". Majority of encoding and playback issues are stemming from DviX/Xvid internet subculture and general lack of knowledge how to use the tools to make a compatible, error free product. Jeremiah58 suggestion to use ConvertXtoDVD is correct - this program has the ability to decipher and address most issues on the fly.

You make a very good point. Nero doesn't like to be cross hacked with other applications but neither do other application suites. Nero doesn't pretend to be the do-all and end-all application. It serves a very large group of users with a basic suite of applications. Where people get into problems is when they try to intersperse Nero with other applications as they edit, author and hack. We have a few people on this forum that are very knowledgeable. Their contributions are very helpful. Unfortunately we also have some blow-hards that aren't experts; they just try to sound like they are. The problem is that novices that look for information and help on this forum can't readily tell the difference between the true experts and the blow-hards. My suggestion is to be careful to not react to every comment but look for solid advice from competent contributors. You will get to know some of the regular posters and will develop your own sense of who the experts and blow-hards are.

[TheCarter]

I dont expect everything from Nero. It's just that I spent $70 on the program with the intensions of it doing a certain thing. And i was comfotable with it thus far until I just starting dabbling with Divx movies.

All I truely want is a program that is simplistic as nero when it comes to making Avi files into DVD's with a simple menu. I dont care for all the chapters or secondary screens. All I need is a AVI file accompanied by a menu screen that I can import my own BG, file link pic and some BG music all custom.

If anyone has used Nero Vision you would know exactly what I'm talking about. If anyone can let me know of a program that is mostly like Nero Vision when it comes to creating menus I would appreciate it.

[guns1inger]

You guys keep telling yourselves Nero is good and does what you want. Trouble is, too many posts prove that a lot of the time, it simply doesn't. VBR MP3 audio is a major issue for NeroVision. Most of the time it causes it to either crash outright, or if it does complete, produce discs with audio sync problems. This has been an ongoing problem for NeroVision that other software has been able to mostly overcome.

I don't like what Nero has become, and I make no bones about it. However if you insist on using it then you need to live the fact that for this type of conversion you will have to prep your assets first to work around Nero's problems.

This post walks you quickly through changing the audio compression of your VBR MP3 using virtualdubmod so you can encode it with NeroVision -> https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=309224

If NeroVision is the way you want to go, you will just have to get used to including this step in your process.

[TheCarter]

So I found, downloaded and tried Divx2DVD. My video finally work perfectly and in sync in Nero Vision. Thanks guys. Now I have a new problem.. lol. Divx2DVD had turned my one long AVI file into 3 shorter Video_TS files. How do I patch these together to make one long file again. Or is there a setting I can switch to just convert it to one long file from the beginning?

[Jeremiah58]

TheCarter
This is what you need to read:
https://www.videohelp.com/guides.php?howtoselect=4;62#4;62

Those guides for noobs were written by experienced people here and most of those tools are try before buy, some freewares though.

[guns1inger]

TheCarter

The DVD structure consistes of ifo (information), bup (backup of the ifp) and VOB (Video OBject) files. These are divided into Video TitleSets (VTS). A VOB file can be no larger than 1000MB. If a movie requires more space than this, it is spread across multiple VOBs.

You do not want to or need to join them into a single file. If you do, you no longer have a DVD.

Just burn the video_ts folder to a DVD using imgburn 2 and it is done.

[MysticE]

TheCarter


Just burn the video_ts folder to a DVD using imgburn 2 and it is done.

Common man, he can easily burn it with Nero without having to 'build' an ISO with ImgBurn, easier and quicker. Unless he's talking DL, Nero Express will do the job just fine with a minimum of fuss.

[Ai Haibara]

Imgburn 2 doesn't have to create an ISO. It'll burn the VIDEO_TS folder as a DVD (rather, create a proper video DVD).

[MysticE]

Imgburn 2 doesn't have to create an ISO. It'll burn the VIDEO_TS folder as a DVD (rather, create a proper video DVD).

You sure?

[TheCarter]

lol coasters.. I still want menus though. thats the main thing. I been copying and burning DVD's for years. I'm new to menus though. I like making my own to, I like the way Nero Vision lets me customize my menus.

I just got DVD lab pro today but when I opened it up I almost took a shit. It looks as if I needed a bachelors degree in DVD Software to create a movie with it. Thinking about taking it back.

[InXess]

Try the demo (if there is one)... very intuitive, don't need manual. Once you make a disk you'll be hooked.

[Ai Haibara]

Imgburn 2 doesn't have to create an ISO. It'll burn the VIDEO_TS folder as a DVD (rather, create a proper video DVD).

You sure?

Yeah, I'm sure. I recall doing it a while back. I don't remember all the settings and such, though.
Are you sure you have the following set:
Mode: Build, Output: Device ?