Capturing footage from Xbox 360

[JaXxIn]

Hi,

I have been looking around for somebody to give me some information and so far have found nothing!

Thought i might be able to get some help over here (Remembered it from when i started converting videos )

Now i wish to capture footage from my xbox 360, but i play on a PC monitor as it stands, so i use the VGA cable.

Now i have an idea, but im not sure if it will work!

I'll explain my idea

I want to be able to play on my PC monitor, and at the same time i want to be able to capture the footage via a capture card (External.)

Would the following work:

Feed the VGA cable directy from the 360 into this splitter cable. From their connect one side of the splitters output to my PC monitor, and then connect something like this to the other side of the splitter.

Then connect the S-Video or composite cable to a video capture device connected to my PC.

Now from what i can make out, im 80% sure this will work. The part im not sure on is the second part. The VGA to S-Video converter cable says:

It will work with VGA cards that has TV-Out function capability through the VGA connector. Check your Video Card manual or manufacturer to make sure that your VGA card has TV-Out function capability.

So does the xbox 360 output work as a TV-Out function?

And will this work to capture my gaming footage?

Thanks in advance,
All help appreciated

[JaXxIn]

Nobody got any ideas then?

[edDV]

DB-15 to video won't work.
"It will work with VGA cards that has TV-Out function capability through the VGA connector. Check your Video Card manual or manufacturer to make sure that your VGA card has TV-Out function capability."

Even if your card did this it won't help with your XBox problems.

You need to run low res 480i S-Video/composite out of the XBox.

[JaXxIn]

DB-15 to video won't work.
"It will work with VGA cards that has TV-Out function capability through the VGA connector. Check your Video Card manual or manufacturer to make sure that your VGA card has TV-Out function capability."

Even if your card did this it won't help with your XBox problems.

You need to run low res 480i S-Video/composite out of the XBox.

Thanks for the reply.

So basically their is no way to record 360 footage while i am playing it on a 19" monitor via VGA?

[neomaine]

Jaxxin,

Not the way you're thinking about it. There are two ways to do this, standard def and high def.

For the standard def its been done a thousand times. Simply pick up the capture card of your choice, hook up the 360 via the svideo and you can play and capture at up to 720x480i. Would be very nice captures, but you'd loose out on the overall graphics on the 360. Cost: $25-$150US.

Or, you could get a high def capture card and go the same route via component. Cost: $1000US+
You can read here for more: https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?p=1614358#1614358

Too bad the 360 doesn't have hdmi. There are hdmi capture cards in the $250US range.

[edDV]

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Or, you could get a high def capture card and go the same route via component. Cost: $1000US+
You can read here for more: https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?p=1614358#1614358

Not exactly, the Xena (SDI in) runs more like $1500 and doesn't accept analog VGA or analog component. An A/D would run around another $500.

Then be prepared for 270Mb/s data stream (RAID needed) at about 145GB/hr

Too bad the 360 doesn't have hdmi. There are hdmi capture cards in the $250US range.

Where did you find an HDMI capture card?

[neomaine]

This came up from a google search:

http://www.markertek.com/SearchProduct.asp?item=BMD%2DINTENSITY&off=1&sort=prod

I hadn't heard of one before but it looks like this captures and outputs hdmi.

[edDV]

This Black Magic device looks interesting
http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/

It wouldn't work if HDCP is enabled. HDCP defaults to no data or SD until an encrypted path is established.

But it is a solution for camcorders and non-HDCP devices. Might work with a PS3.

Big gotcha in the specs. It only works for YUV not RGB.

[neomaine]

I never really worked out that colorspace thing.

[edDV]

I never really worked out that colorspace thing.

The HDMI standard supports either RGB or YUV as do most HDMI monitors.

Most display cards convert everything to RGB and output digital connections and VGA as RGB. The exception is analog component YPbPr that has to be converted back to YUV. S-video/composite is encoded from RGB into NTSC or PAL.

Game boxes are natively RGB and output RGB over VGA or DVI/HDMI but convert to YUV for analog component and S-Video outputs.

Video equipment like camcorders are natively YUV and it appears the SONY HDV cams output YUV over HDMI.

I'm not sure if consumer upconverting DVD and HD/BD DVD players are outputting RGB or YUV over HDMI but I would expect RGB.

The BlackMagic HDMI capture card works with YUV only.

[neomaine]

Now I know how my dog feels when I ask how her day was.....