background animation too fast problem (guifordvdauthor)

[jfernandc]

whenever i try to put an animation background it plays too fast and doesnt sync with the music background. i've even tried just putting the animation there without music, titlesets, or advanced menus and it still plays too fast. the same thing with animation buttons, instead of being 10 secs it ends up as 5 (it shows 10 seconds of clips but its so fast that it plays in 5 seconds).

[guns1inger]

What does g-spot say about the video itself ?

[borax]

The xml stuff doesn't help here...
1. GfD creates a simple elementary m2v file during the authoring process. If your mainmenu is animated, it will be named MMBackg.m2v. You can open this file with any player that can show mpeg2 video. This file is then multiplexed with mplex to a new video which is named MMBackg.mpg (including the audio). You can check if this file is ok or not.
2. The only problem I can think of, is an animated background file (avi or mpeg) with another framerate as specified for DVDs (25 fps for PAL, 29.97 for NTSC). In this case avisynth would probably use this framerate, as it is the first one (background!) which could result in such a problem.

[jfernandc]

yes, its doing that.

INFO: [???] Frame width : 720
INFO: [???] Frame height : 480
INFO: [???] Aspect ratio : 4:3 display
INFO: [???] Picture rate : 29.970 frames/sec
INFO: [???] Bit rate : 8000000 bits/sec
INFO: [???] Vbv buffer size : 245760 bytes


how would i change that?

also, according to gspot its an mpeg2, gunslinger

[borax]

yes, its doing that.

Its doing what???
MMBackg.mpg plays ok (correct speed and sync), if played with a soft player...
Yes or No?

INFO: [???] Frame width...

Is this the INFO for the menu or the movie?
How is your animation background designed? Imported m2v or AVI? Or just a still picture with animation elements 'on top'?
If imported m2v or AVI: Is the duration of this m2v or AVI identical with the duration of the background audio for the menu and the duration setting in the background dialog?
What is the framerate of the imported m2v or AVI?
If AVI: Does the AVI contain audio?

I'm sure this matter can be solved, but we will need much more info...
It would probably be helpful, if you could post the MMScript.avs file

[jfernandc]

i meant its doing 29.97 frames

it doesnt play in sync with any dvd player

my animation background is m2v.
duration of m2v length is the same as the audio originally, but once i create dvd, the video plays faster than the music.

this is my mmscript.avs:
length=300 #length of the clip in frames.
ImgTitle = ImageReader("C:\Documents and Settings\renato dela cruz\Desktop\gfddvd\Temp\MMBackImgs.bmp", 0, length, 30, False).ConvertToRGB32().AssumeFPS(29.97)
ImgMask = ImageReader("C:\Documents and Settings\renato dela cruz\Desktop\gfddvd\Temp\MMBackImgs2.bmp", 0, length, 30, False).ConvertToRGB32().AssumeFPS(29.97)
ImgLayer = Mask(ImgTitle, ImgMask)
StrTitle = ImageReader("C:\Documents and Settings\renato dela cruz\Desktop\gfddvd\Temp\MMBackStrs.bmp", 0, length, 30, False).ConvertToRGB32().AssumeFPS(29.97)
StrMask = ImageReader("C:\Documents and Settings\renato dela cruz\Desktop\gfddvd\Temp\MMBackStrs2.bmp", 0, length, 30, False).ConvertToRGB32().AssumeFPS(29.97)
StrLayer = Mask(StrTitle, StrMask)
mpegsource("C:\Documents and Settings\renato dela cruz\Desktop\ig.m2v").ConvertToRGB32().bilinearres ize( 720, 480)
layer(ImgLayer,"add",255, 0, 0)

layer(StrLayer,"add",255, 0, 0)
ConvertToYV12()

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my guiauthor.log:
(shrink and) mux video and audio files
INFO: [???] mplex version 2.0.0 (2.2.3 $Date: 2004/01/13 20:45:26 $)
INFO: [???] File C:\Documents and Settings\renato dela cruz\Desktop\ig.m2v looks like an MPEG Video stream.
INFO: [???] Video stream 0: profile 8 selected - ignoring non-standard options!
INFO: [???] Found 0 audio streams and 1 video streams
INFO: [???] Selecting dvdauthor DVD output profile
INFO: [???] Multiplexing video program stream!
INFO: [???] Scanning for header info: Video stream e0 (C:\Documents and Settings\renato dela cruz\Desktop\ig.m2v)
INFO: [???] VIDEO STREAM: e0
INFO: [???] Frame width : 720
INFO: [???] Frame height : 480
INFO: [???] Aspect ratio : 4:3 display
INFO: [???] Picture rate : 29.970 frames/sec
INFO: [???] Bit rate : 8000000 bits/sec
INFO: [???] Vbv buffer size : 245760 bytes
INFO: [???] CSPF : 0
INFO: [???] SYSTEMS/PROGRAM stream:
INFO: [???] rough-guess multiplexed stream data rate : 8165248
INFO: [???] target data-rate specified : 10080000
INFO: [???] Setting specified specified data rate: 10080000
INFO: [???] Run-in Sectors = 88 Video delay = 12873 Audio delay = 0
INFO: [???] New sequence commences...
INFO: [???] Video e0: buf= 237568 frame=000000 sector=00000000
INFO: [???] STREAM e0 completed @ frame 1998.
INFO: [???] Multiplex completion at SCR=7429412.
INFO: [???] Video e0: buf= 96005 frame=001998 sector=00007665
INFO: [???] VIDEO_STATISTICS: e0
INFO: [???] Video Stream length: 15363875 bytes
INFO: [???] Sequence headers: 167
INFO: [???] Sequence ends : 0
INFO: [???] No. Pictures : 1999
INFO: [???] No. Groups : 167
INFO: [???] No. I Frames : 167 avg. size 25476 bytes
INFO: [???] No. P Frames : 501 avg. size 10580 bytes
INFO: [???] No. B Frames : 1332 avg. size 4355 bytes
INFO: [???] Average bit-rate : 1473200 bits/sec
INFO: [???] Peak bit-rate : 4524000 bits/sec
INFO: [???] BUFFERING min 16 Buf max 191968
INFO: [???] MUX STATUS: no under-runs detected.

C:\Documents and Settings\renato dela cruz\Desktop\gfddvd\Temp>Time: 9/24/2006 6:47:27 AM
*creating MMback.m2v
42994696
C:\Documents and Settings\renato dela cruz\Desktop\gfddvd\Temp>Time: 9/24/2006 6:52:13 AM
*mux to MMback.mpg
INFO: [???] mplex version 2.0.0 (2.2.3 $Date: 2004/01/13 20:45:26 $)
INFO: [???] File C:\Documents and Settings\renato dela cruz\Desktop\gfddvd\Temp\MMBackg.m2v looks like an MPEG Video stream.
INFO: [???] File C:\Documents and Settings\renato dela cruz\Desktop\ms.mpa looks like an MPEG Audio stream.
INFO: [???] Video stream 0: profile 8 selected - ignoring non-standard options!
INFO: [???] Found 1 audio streams and 1 video streams
INFO: [???] Selecting dvdauthor DVD output profile
INFO: [???] Multiplexing video program stream!
INFO: [???] Scanning for header info: Video stream e0 (C:\Documents and Settings\renato dela cruz\Desktop\gfddvd\Temp\MMBackg.m2v)
INFO: [???] VIDEO STREAM: e0
INFO: [???] Frame width : 720
INFO: [???] Frame height : 480
INFO: [???] Aspect ratio : 4:3 display
INFO: [???] Picture rate : 29.970 frames/sec
INFO: [???] Bit rate : 7800000 bits/sec
INFO: [???] Vbv buffer size : 229376 bytes
INFO: [???] CSPF : 0
INFO: [???] Scanning for header info: Audio stream c0 (C:\Documents and Settings\renato dela cruz\Desktop\ms.mpa)
INFO: [???] MPEG AUDIO STREAM: c0
INFO: [???] Audio version : 1.0
INFO: [???] Layer : 2
INFO: [???] CRC checksums : yes
INFO: [???] Bit rate : 20480 bytes/sec (160 kbit/sec)
INFO: [???] Frequency : 48000 Hz
INFO: [???] Mode : 0 stereo
INFO: [???] Mode extension : 0
INFO: [???] Copyright bit : 0 no copyright
INFO: [???] Original/Copy : 0 copy
INFO: [???] Emphasis : 0 none
INFO: [???] SYSTEMS/PROGRAM stream:
INFO: [???] rough-guess multiplexed stream data rate : 8128296
INFO: [???] target data-rate specified : 10080000
INFO: [???] Setting specified specified data rate: 10080000
INFO: [???] Run-in Sectors = 89 Video delay = 13019 Audio delay = 0
INFO: [???] New sequence commences...
INFO: [???] Video e0: buf= 237568 frame=000000 sector=00000000
INFO: [???] Audio c0: buf= 4096 frame=000000 sector=00000000
INFO: [???] STREAM e0 completed @ frame 2495.
INFO: [???] STREAM c0 completed @ frame 3480.
INFO: [???] Multiplex completion at SCR=7522304.
INFO: [???] Video e0: buf= 237568 frame=002495 sector=00017365
INFO: [???] Audio c0: buf= 1696 frame=003480 sector=00000828
INFO: [???] VIDEO_STATISTICS: e0
INFO: [???] Video Stream length: 34996256 bytes
INFO: [???] Sequence headers: 167
INFO: [???] Sequence ends : 0
INFO: [???] No. Pictures : 2496
INFO: [???] No. Groups : 167
INFO: [???] No. I Frames : 167 avg. size 48085 bytes
INFO: [???] No. P Frames : 666 avg. size 23479 bytes
INFO: [???] No. B Frames : 1664 avg. size 6807 bytes
INFO: [???] Average bit-rate : 3360000 bits/sec
INFO: [???] Peak bit-rate : 9131200 bits/sec
INFO: [???] BUFFERING min 18 Buf max 155305
INFO: [???] AUDIO_STATISTICS: c0
INFO: [???] Audio stream length 1670880 bytes.
INFO: [???] Syncwords : 3481
INFO: [???] Frames : 3481 padded
INFO: [???] Frames : 0 unpadded
INFO: [???] BUFFERING min 19 Buf max 479
INFO: [???] MUX STATUS: no under-runs detected.
*creating menufile MMMenu.mpg
DVDAuthor:pumux, version 0.6.12-alpha-2992-GfD-4.
Build options: gnugetopt iconv freetype
Send bugs to <gfd@boraxsoft.de>

INFO: Locale=C
INFO: Converting filenames to US-ASCII
STAT: 0:00:00.000
INFO: PNG had 2 colors
INFO: PNG had 2 colors
INFO: Constructing blank img
INFO: Pickbuttongroups, success with 1 groups, useimg=1
INFO: Found EOF in .sub file.
INFO: Max_sub_size=110
WARN: Read 0, expected 4
INFO: 1 subtitles added, 0 subtitles skipped, stream: 32, offset: 0.18

Statistics:
- Processed 0 subtitles.
- The longest display line had -1 characters.
- The maximum number of displayed lines was 0.
- The normal display height of the font arial.ttf was 0.
- The bottom display height of the font arial.ttf was 0.
- The biggest subtitle box had 110 bytes.

C:\Documents and Settings\renato dela cruz\Desktop\gfddvd\Temp>Time: 9/24/2006 6:52:31 AM
*creating EmptyBackg.m2v
INFO: [jpeg2yuv] Parsing & checking input files.
INFO: [jpeg2yuv] Image dimensions are 720x480
INFO: [jpeg2yuv] Movie frame rate is: 29.970030 frames/second
INFO: [jpeg2yuv] Interlaced frames, top field first.
INFO: [jpeg2yuv] Frame size: 720 x 480
INFO: [jpeg2yuv] Now generating YUV4MPEG stream.
INFO: [jpeg2yuv] Processing non-interlaced/interleaved C:\Documents and Settings\renato dela cruz\Desktop\gfddvd\Temp\EmptyBackg.jpg, size 6029l.
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Selecting DVD output profile
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Encoding MPEG-2 video to C:\Documents and Settings\renato dela cruz\Desktop\gfddvd\Temp\EmptyBackg.m2v
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Horizontal size: 720 pel
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Vertical size: 480 pel
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Aspect ratio code: 2 = 4:3 display
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Frame rate code: 4 = 30000.0/1001.0 (NTSC VIDEO)
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Bitrate: 3000 KBit/s
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Quality factor: 1 (1=best, 31=worst)
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Field order for input: top-field-first
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Sequence unlimited length
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Search radius: 16
INFO: [mpeg2enc] GOP SIZE RANGE 9 TO 18
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Setting colour/gamma parameters to "NTSC"
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Progressive format frames = 0
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Buffering 45 frames
INFO: [mpeg2enc] SETTING 3DNOW and EXTENDED MMX for QUANTIZER!
INFO: [mpeg2enc] SETTING EXTENDED MMX for MOTION!
INFO: [mpeg2enc] SETTING MMX for TRANSFORM!
INFO: [mpeg2enc] SETTING EXTENDED MMX for PREDICTION!
INFO: [mpeg2enc] GOP LENGTH = 1
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Frame start 0 I 0 0
INFO: [mpeg2enc] Frame end 0 432.00 432.00 1.0 1.00
INFO: [mpeg2enc] GOP LENGTH = 0
*mux to EmptyBackg.mpg
INFO: [???] mplex version 2.0.0 (2.2.3 $Date: 2004/01/13 20:45:26 $)
INFO: [???] File C:\Documents and Settings\renato dela cruz\Desktop\gfddvd\Temp\EmptyBackg.m2v looks like an MPEG Video stream.
INFO: [???] Video stream 0: profile 8 selected - ignoring non-standard options!
INFO: [???] Found 0 audio streams and 1 video streams
INFO: [???] Selecting dvdauthor DVD output profile
INFO: [???] Multiplexing video program stream!
INFO: [???] Scanning for header info: Video stream e0 (C:\Documents and Settings\renato dela cruz\Desktop\gfddvd\Temp\EmptyBackg.m2v)
INFO: [???] VIDEO STREAM: e0
INFO: [???] Frame width : 720
INFO: [???] Frame height : 480
INFO: [???] Aspect ratio : 4:3 display
INFO: [???] Picture rate : 29.970 frames/sec
INFO: [???] Bit rate : 3000000 bits/sec
INFO: [???] Vbv buffer size : 229376 bytes
INFO: [???] CSPF : 0
INFO: [???] SYSTEMS/PROGRAM stream:
INFO: [???] rough-guess multiplexed stream data rate : 3062744
INFO: [???] target data-rate specified : 10080000
INFO: [???] Setting specified specified data rate: 10080000
INFO: [???] Scanned to end AU 0
INFO: [???] Run-in Sectors = 88 Video delay = 12873 Audio delay = 0
INFO: [???] New sequence commences...
INFO: [???] Video e0: buf= 237568 frame=000000 sector=00000000
INFO: [???] STREAM e0 completed @ frame 0.
INFO: [???] Multiplex completion at SCR=731.
INFO: [???] Video e0: buf= 230035 frame=000000 sector=00000004
INFO: [???] VIDEO_STATISTICS: e0
INFO: [???] Video Stream length: 7533 bytes
INFO: [???] Sequence headers: 1
INFO: [???] Sequence ends : 1
INFO: [???] No. Pictures : 0
INFO: [???] No. Groups : 1
INFO: [???] No. I Frames : 1 avg. size 7533 bytes
INFO: [???] No. P Frames : 0 avg. size 0 bytes
INFO: [???] No. B Frames : 0 avg. size 0 bytes
INFO: [???] Average bit-rate : 1806000 bits/sec
INFO: [???] Peak bit-rate : 0 bits/sec
INFO: [???] BUFFERING stream too short for useful statistics
INFO: [???] MUX STATUS: no under-runs detected.

[borax]

I don't see an error so far. But I'm no NTSC 'specialist'. Maybe your source (renato dela cruz\Desktop\ig.m2v) has a framerate of 23.976 and Avisynth will 'fasten' this to 29.97. I don't have NTSC material here with such a framerate (23.976), therefore it's hard for me to test this out. IMHO we will need a specialist for Avisynth/telecine problems...

[jfernandc]

it used to work fine, i just dont know what changed

[borax]

I don't know it either...
But without the material, I cannot check where the problem is. And such files are usually to big to be transfered by email. If you should have a fast internet access and some webspace, you can put the m2v clip and the ac3 file there and send me the link. I think ~ 10 sec. should be enough to get the 'of sync' problem, but that's something you should check beforehand as 35 MB (size of our original clip) + Audio is really to much....

[jfernandc]

you mean you wanna see the finished product showing the of sync thing, or before i made it?

[borax]

I would need the thing before...
You have a video stream: renato dela cruz\Desktop\ig.m2v" and an audio stream: ms.mpa
You told me they have the same length. According to the log, the video has ~34996256 bytes. IMHO this is to much... Probably this video could be cut down to something like 10 seconds (resulting in ~ 10MB) and the same for the audio stream (mpeg2cut or cuttermaran are very good for such things). Then you try if the 'fastening' and of sync is also noticeable for this shorter piece. If yes, we can use the shorter version (i.e. upload it somewhere), if not, this is already a point to start with...

[jfernandc]

i've tried shortening it and the same thing happened. i've tried it many times with different video backgrounds and music so sending the files to you may not really matter.

do you think it could be my settings? my settings for gfddvd, quenc, or avisynth

[borax]

do you think it could be my settings?

I have no idea. Can you put an example (the .gfd file, the m2v of the background clip and the background audio file) anywhere? Rapidshare or somewhere on your own webspace if you should have enough? You can send me the link in a pm or email. Without 'testing' material, I cannot help you. If you have an old example (you told me, it used to work fine), you may also try to compare what is changed between the projects yourself. I still believe, it has something to do with your source clip and the 23.976/29.97 FPS problems for NTSC (i.e. pulldown flags).

[jfernandc]

theres enough in it to show the offsync

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=W0Y7I5XF

[borax]

Ok, I will check it asap...

EDIT:
Just to be sure: If I use the video 'ig.m2v' and the audio 'ms.mpa' as a 'normal' movie, the sync is ok, but used as animated menu it goes of sync?

[jfernandc]

yes, when played along side each other at the same time they are synced

when used in the menu, no

[borax]

I had a short look into the project. As I have expected, there is a problem with the pulldown...
If the files 'ig.m2v' and 'ms.mpa' are multiplexed as a 'normal' movie, it is shown with a framerate of 24 (23.976) in MPC, even if the framerate in the mpg file is set to 29.97. Mplex reports a total of 190 frames. If this is run through Avisynth/HC the output has 235 frames, MPC shows it with 29.97 FPS, but of sync. I will need some time to figure this out, as I'm no NTSC pulldown specialist (NTSC is not very common in Germany...)

[jfernandc]

i converted it to pal format and it was still off sync

[borax]

How did you do (try) that?

[borax]

I found a possibility...
Using your ig.m2v as input in TMPGEnc Plus (Ver 2.5) with a standard NTSC template just setting the output stream type to elementary video stream 'ES (Video only)', the resulting new m2v file could be used as 'background' animation in GfD (which plays in sync with the ms.mpa!)

[jfernandc]

i used pal format instead of ntsc format when i was using guifor dvdauthor

thanks, but i cant use tmpgenc plus because i have to buy it. will tmpgenc do the same thing you're saying?

[jfernandc]

im using tmpenc and it cant open any .m2v video files

or anything for that matter. i dont understand

[borax]

i used pal format instead of ntsc format when i was using guifor dvdauthor

This cannot work... GfD isn't a 'converter'...

but i cant use tmpgenc plus

Ok, I will try to find another solution.

[borax]

Other possibility:
Download and 'install' the newest Dgmpgdec
Run dgindex, open the ig.m2v file and save the project (dgindex seems to correct the pulldown/TFF/BFF problems)
Create an avisynth file (i.e. ig2.avs) for the new ig.d2v file like:

LoadPlugin("D:\Programme\Dgmpgdec\DGDecode.dll")
MPEG2Source("X:\TempFilm\ig.d2v")

(but using your path definitions!)

Open this file in QuEnc or HC and encode it to a new m2v file (other name and path)
Use this new m2v file as 'background' animation in GfD
Instead of encoding a new file, you can also use the 'Create batch' button in GfD and edit the MMScript.avs (and also the other avs files if you have other animated menus with this problem in the same project too). After the comments:

...
# You will also need an Avisynth version of 2.5.4 or higher ###############
###########################################################################

Add a new line with

LoadPlugin("D:\Programme\Dgmpgdec\DGDecode.dll")

(but using your path definition)

Replace the line with the 'old mpeg' definition:

mpegsource("X:\TempFilm\ig.m2v").ConvertToRGB32().bilinearresize( 720, 480)

with:

MPEG2Source("X:\TempFilm\ig.d2v").ConvertToRGB32().bilinearresize( 720, 480)

(but using your path definition)

Save the MMScript.avs and run the MainBatch.bat file to start the authoring process.

It seems that I may be forced to update GfD and use dgindex/dgdecode instead of the (old) MPEGDecoder.dll in the next version...

[jfernandc]

i've tried both ways and now its in sync but the outcome become sort of jittery. thanks still though, but it still needs work.. i'll stick with it now though, unless you have another solution

question though. how come when i updated my avisynth from 2.5.4 to a higher one the screen just turns green

[jfernandc]

i fixed it! woohoo thanks!