cce encoding problem

[bufalo]

Thanks for any help. I have CCE 2.5 and seem to have trouble encoding. I have the k-lite codec pack installed. If I just drag the file to the CCE window and try to encode, it keeps saying: "couldn't find appropriate video codec for dsvd".

If I try to do it using multi pass, I get the same message, then:

"vinfo_open()failed:***could not open the file (file name).vaf
windows error code ox22"

If I use the plug-in for premiere 6.0 and try to encode I always get:

"frame rate 1/1 is not supported"

only diference I get is when I try to use the multipass with the plug-in and I get "CCE can't export audio wehen you selected VBR"

Any ideas how I can fix all of this? I don't need to encode the audio, just video and I would like the multipass for quality.

Another dumb question, do I need to use Avisynth with CCE? the source is dv footage that I shot and edited on premiere

thanks again!

[bufalo]

anybody????

[manono]

Hi-

You probably need to install a codec, Cedocida or Panasonic DV Codec maybe. Try and open the video in VDub(Mod) and it'll give you a better error message.

do I need to use Avisynth with CCE?

Well, if you want a quality result, I'd say so, particularly if the footage is interlaced. Doing an interlaced colorspace conversion is a heck of a lot better if done in AviSynth, rather than in CCE. I wouldn't let CCE handle the audio, either. Strip it out, or use an AviSynth script that disables it. Handle it separately and mux it back into the video at the authoring stage. Just my opinion.

I don't know anything about Premiere, so if you're getting some Premiere specific error messages, then someone else will have to help you.

[pijetro]

Welcome to the forums....
Codec packs are bad...Install as you need codecs..
If it's DV you're working with, try using the Panasonic DV codec.
At least this way, you can open up the video in VirtualDub, and get a better understanding of the video...
CCE ver 2.5 had a known bug, in where it would kick out if there was no audio served alongside video..There were workarounds. AVISynth was one of them.

If I just drag the file to the CCE window and try to encode

There was a 2 gig file limit for .AVI files with ver.2.5
This answers your question about AVISynth..Since this program serves to CCE frame by frame, there was no problem..
Also, AVISynth worked in YUY colourspace..Great for people who rip DVD's, and don't want the time consuming RGB conversion...

[bufalo]

I just uninstalled Klite and am a little nervous about installing the panasonic codec because I looked at the reviews. I will give it a try though and keep in mind that if there are any problems, it is probably the codec. I checked out virtualdub and people seem to love it. I read up on it, but am a bit confused. Capturing using virtualdub would be better than capturing using Premiere?

As in I capture with virtualdub from my minidv camera (sony VX2000) and then edit in preiere and then export from premiere using the panasonic codec, then use cce or say tmpgenc to encode to mpeg-2 and burn to dvd. This would be correct?

Thanks again

Oh and when I have major time I'll try to fool with avisynth, looks really complicated. What part of the process would avisynth be? editing color, filter, after editing in premiere?

[bufalo]

also forgot to mention that I have the mainconcept trailware cdec installed. I don't see how long it is that it can be tested, I looked at the page. anyone know?

[jman98]

CCE ver 2.5 had a known bug, in where it would kick out if there was no audio served alongside video..There were workarounds. AVISynth was one of them.

That's not correct. The bug in CCE 2.5 about audio was that CCE would freeze or crash (I have forgotten which) every time if you had an AMD CPU and tried to use it to encode audio. CCE 2.5 works fine with video only files. There is no requirement to serve audio to it. I have AMD CPU PCs and CCE 2.5 and I can assure you that it works very well if no audio is served alongside the video.

[bufalo]

I just installed the panasonic dv codec, but get the same: "couldn't find appropriate video codec for dsvd" message.

[bufalo]

Is this odd? When I export video using microsofts DV AVI, the framerate is 29.97, but exporting using cce, it is 1. I imagine this is why cce has the "framerate 1/1 is not supported" message. I've been trying to change it, but haven't found out how. Is this however, normal?

[pijetro]

@jman98.
Sorry, i should have been more accurate. The bug only occurs when loading an AVISynth script, with video only. CCE ver2.5 simply closes out. It's a known fact..Sometimes unchecking the "Encode Audio" button might help..But this isn't your issue..

bufalo wrote:

Capturing using virtualdub would be better than capturing using Premiere?

No, Premiere has native firewire support..
VirtualDub is great for viewing the video, since the application itself isn't system intensive. The Panasonic Codec, simply allows you to view the video in VirtualDub...
How did you capture the footage?

Capture in Premiere, edit in Premiere, export from Premiere..
Whether you export to Mpeg directly from the timeline via CCE plugin is up to you..
If you save out an .AVI from Premiere, and it's over the 2 gig in size, CCE will not encode it. That's why people used AVISynth in the past..

[bufalo]

Thanks so much for responding. the three premiere steps you mentioned is what I have been doing, its just that I saw all these other programs that I wasn't sure if I needed them or not. There are so many of them that it can be overwhelming.

I normally capture the footage via firewire directly using premiere. My camera is a Sony Vx-2000. I edit in Premiere and then encode. I heard cce is better than tmpgenc so I thought I'd try it, but so far it has given me problems.

[pijetro]

CCE rocks for speed..Tmpgenc has many followers claiming better quality..
I prefer CCE..
That being said, you need to read the manual, and read up on CCE guides..
It's a down and dirty speed demon that can sometimes be fussy...
You need to feed CCE correct streams..It won't resize, or correct any framerate issues..
If it's not a correct video stream.....CCE craps out..