I'd love to be able to start a poll to get rid of this sticky https://forum.videohelp.com/viewtopic.php?p=354834#354834. All its doen is really provoking trouble and asking people to dog on each other. Its been like preschool round here lately.If the mods miss somthing, chances are the thilth (MPAA or what ever other "scary" crap gets talked about) will not see it either, so there is no reason for the sticky, or just mod up the people that report in that sticky,as it seems to be the same 5 or 6 people over & over & over again, and lets face it, thats exactly what there tryen to do (mod up). The feedback is plenty...........Thanks...........Baldy? your the man.
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I think its still necessary. The mods can see potential problems. If its deemed not to be a problem the thread can remain open. The issue is not all the mods can see everything out there. There has to be a community police system for a site this large. I'd say for the most part it serves its purpose. And people can see what type of behavior is acceptable and what isn't.
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Overall, I think the report sticky has been a good thing and should remain. Abusers will be dealt with by the mods the same as any other violation or abuse, but as it says in the sticky, they can't catch everything by themselves and appreciate reports of questionable activity. And I agree with Yoda313, it helps people understand acceptable behavior.
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We will try with a closed report function. It is just to click on the "Report this post"-link and enter a reason and it will be posted in our moderator forum.
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Originally Posted by yoda313
P.S. sorry baldy, didn't mean to basicaly repeat what you just said.
Denis -
I kind of like the new reporting system, but I can see some drawbacks. Reporting doubleposts might get confusing because you have to report each one individually. Someone else may report something in between so it might not be readily apparent. Also you can't see if someone else has already reported something, so you may end up with a whole bunch of reports for the same thing.
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Just report one of the double posts....as we can use the "View users post" to easily find the other post.
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At first i agreed with G)-(OST... do away with the "report" thread/sticky, hire more mods, invoke martial law!!! Do away with them all!!! And i know who could be in charge...
Yeah right
Originally Posted by G)-(OST
That's like banning a country of 20 million people from driving just because 1 or 2 people have not learned to use the brakes and keep crashing
Originally Posted by gadgetguy
But seriously, i agreed with you and yoda and was amazed Baldrick tried it so fast 8) -
Originally Posted by gadgetguyHis name was MackemX
What kind of a man are you? The guy is unconscious in a coma and you don't have the guts to kiss his girlfriend? -
Originally Posted by gadgetguy
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G)-(OST wrote:
All its doen is really provoking trouble and asking people to dog on each other.
Nah... i've been floating around here for many a years and it's pretty rare it get's bad and it's usually dealt with pretty fast....
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Originally Posted by G)-(OST
Here are some of the pros and cons as I see it:
Having an RTP thread:
PROs:
Shows people (bystanders) what is and isn't acceptable
Other users can readily see if a post has already been reported (circumvented by Baldrick's fix)
Mods always leave a comment, so reporters can be certain that a mod has looked at it
CONs:
A lot of people seem to find a "wanna-be mod" (their words) or snitch to be threatening
Reported posts can sometimes be a beacon for trollers - aka a "pile-on"
Not having an RTP thread:
PROs:
People can report things without fear of retribution from onlookers
CONs:
People don't get working examples of what is and isn't acceptable
No feedback to reporter that mods have looked at the post
No feedback to everyone else that post has been reported
Personally I was happy with the RTP thread being visible to all. There was a strict "no-discussion" policy which was well-enforced and I guess the only drawbacks were the negativity towards anyone who posted a report and the pile-on effect.
Whilst I'm on my soapbox, WTF is the go with "wanna-be mod" ? Just because someone reports something, doesn't mean they want to have to put up with the thankless crap that is being a moderator. If they start a thread in Feedback with the title " I want to be a mod", then they're a wanna-be mod
Originally Posted by G)-(OST
Originally Posted by G)-(OST
And after all, most of the rules are in place to keep order, keep the site free from any potential legal issues and to make the place pleasant, where true "discussions" and difference of opinion can take place without name-calling or ridiculing.
But, as always, I'll roll with itIf in doubt, Google it. -
NOW it gives people the opportunity to dog on each other with total anonymity (excluding mods of course).
Denis
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Originally Posted by Baldrick
Originally Posted by Baldrick"Shut up Wesley!" -- Captain Jean-Luc Picard
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My 2 cents (as a mod)
I had thought the majority appreciated seeing the report function working in public. Sure it got catty on rare occasions, but that was a small price to pay for transparency of the process imo. Also if it upset you, you did not have to watch.
However since many seem happy to have functions of this site taken away from public view - so be it - no skin off my nose. Things will be smoother now... even smoother if we could just "disappear posts" that are threadjacking or argumentative :P
BTW in no way was it a proving ground for moderator status as suggested by Ghost - that idea I reject strenuously. Moderators earn their stripes many times over, and it is a far from glamours role - trust me on this.
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In my opinion, removing the Report thread is counter-productive.
I also object fervently against what ghost posted. It is sour, bitter and full of venom. It is an insult to both the mods and the people who help clean up this place (and that's not just "snitching", but also putting topics in their right sections, consolidation multiple/cross posts, etc.)
It is nice to see how this community works. Everyone gets to see what precisely is acceptable without having to go to the source (offending post).
I don't buy the notion that the Report thread causes trouble. Let's face it: the troublemakers (aka a-holes) will always stir up crap one way or another. If they can't start a thread bitching about something in the Report thread, they will atagonize members of this board in other ways. It is the a-holes who are the problem, not the Report thread. Guns don't kill people, people yadda yadda yadda...
How long before other stickies are removed because the troublemakers cannot (will not) handle the content within?
When you have a meeting of the minds on a global scale such as this, you are bound to have differing opinions. I suppose in the end, it is not a right, but a privilege to post or even see those opinions and their consequences. -
Originally Posted by gadgetguy
Originally Posted by gadgetguy
I Agree with jimmalenko, offline & Supreme2k except for this....
Originally Posted by offline
The only person i recall complaining about getting rid of it is the OP [/b] -
Originally Posted by jimmalenko
Originally Posted by jimmalenko
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Maybe i missed something, but the majority seem's to agree with keeping it ?
The only person i recall complaining about getting rid of it is the OP
Now its even clearer, these people who post in that sticky are the only ones that care. Soapy hopey's.
I also object fervently against what ghost posted. It is sour, bitter and full of venom. It is an insult to both the mods and the people who help clean up this place (and that's not just "snitching", but also putting topics in their right sections, consolidation multiple/cross posts, etc.)
BTW in no way was it a proving ground for moderator status as suggested by Ghost - that idea I reject strenuously. Moderators earn their stripes many times over, and it is a far from glamours role - trust me on this.
Its good to see that the boss listen's to us lower posting, status members as well......Thanks
To many cheifs, not enough indian's.
Denis -
The report this post sticky is a vey useful tool for us mods, as vitualis says we cant check evey single post, but it has in the past caused ill feeling between members on numerous occasion. It has been decided to have the thread in the mod forum as we are the only ones that need to view it, so reports can now be made with anonimity.
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Thanks craig. Sorry to get a little Feisty. I'm not a fan of someone being a ""copper & a c*nt"". Your a great mod and i commend you for it.
Denis -
Originally Posted by G)-(OST
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Originally Posted by G)-(OST
So for those of you who are mods, THANK YOU. (There, now it's not entirely thankless)."Shut up Wesley!" -- Captain Jean-Luc Picard
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@ OFFY: That's an old aussie term, I thought you might understand, but any way........
Thank you to everyone that commented in this thread. I am requesting that someone now lock or delete this thread, as there is no further use, & nothing left to gain.........Thankyou.
Regards Denis.
[EDIT] (Cool I found the edit button) Leave it open -
It might be useful to place a new sticky explaining the Report this Post feature and how and when to use it.
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Actually, there was nothing to gain by creating this thread.
Since you have a problem with this thread being open, why don't you use the spiffy new RTP link?
To the mods, is it possible to deny "ownership" of threads? The very nature of discussion boards is viral, so the threads often become property of those participating, while still belonging only to the boards. Just as an OP can't order a thread be unlocked, they shouldn't be allowed to order it locked (but they can request it, just like anything else).
My thought is that any thread should remain open until it gets out of hand. If people want to post, so be it, as long as they're not being disruptive. It shouldn't be "just because" or "it has served its purpose" (in only one person's opinion). -
Originally Posted by G)-(OST
And I haven't decided yet if a closed report topic is the best solution so all comments are still welcome. -
We are only locking topics that are going out of hand.
And I haven't decided yet if a closed report topic is the best solution so all comments are still welcome.
Since you have a problem with this thread being open, why don't you use the spiffy new RTP link?
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