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    http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,126942-c,vistalonghorn/article.html

    Microsoft yesterday accidentally listed the pricing of the high-end consumer versions of Windows Vista on its Canadian Web site.

    The Neowin.net blog reported Monday that Microsoft.com Canada posted a price list for Windows Vista Ultimate and Windows Vista Home Premium, but the page was pulled from the Web site soon after news of pricing leaked.

    According to Neowin.net, list quoted the price for Windows Vista Ultimate as $499 Canadian ($450.18 in U.S. currency), while Home Premium will be $299 ($269.71 U.S.). An upgrade to Vista Ultimate will cost $299 ($269.71 U.S.), while an upgrade to Home Premium will cost $199 ($179.51 U.S.), according to the blog.

    In a statement through its public relations firm, Microsoft acknowledged Monday that it "inadvertently" posted Windows Vista Canadian retail prices on its Web site, but then removed the information. The company plans to reveal the official U.S. pricing for Vista when it makes available the first release candidate of Vista sometime before the end of September, Microsoft said.
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    Good pricing but I don't believe all Vista versions are listed.
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    http://blogs.zdnet.com/Bott/index.php?p=125

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    hahahahaha!
    $500 for Win2000 with 'Aero'
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    Originally Posted by DereX888
    hahahahaha!
    $500 for Win2000 with 'Aero'
    Win2000 is sooooooooo last millenium. This is a new OS not some rehash of something 2 generations old.
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    Originally Posted by ROF
    This is a new OS not some rehash of something 2 generations old.
    Thanks for the laugh, I needed that.
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    I can think of few problems where the solution is a new OS.
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    Originally Posted by ROF
    Originally Posted by DereX888
    hahahahaha!
    $500 for Win2000 with 'Aero'
    Win2000 is sooooooooo last millenium. This is a new OS not some rehash of something 2 generations old.
    in which part is it new?! :O
    They didn't wrote it from begining, same as they didnt wrote XP from scratch - they took last non-fucked-up windows 2000 code they have (the 'gold' version of NT5) and they try to improve it in a different way than they did try it with XP.
    IT IS more colorful windows 2000, THATS ALL
    Only time can tell is this new 'improvement' to w2k code really working, or will it be just another half-baked failure as XP was
    (and yes, we know you want 'aero' and thats the only reason why *you* want vista, but believe me - most of us just want more stable and more secure windows OS, not just more "eye candy" version)
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    I actually already have vista installed. It's the open beta and I already find myself enjoying it more than XP. There are a ton of shortcuts and new functionality and APPS which makes the whole experience much appreciated. Nothing like WinXP or Win2K. I should add all my hardware was recognized upon installation with no need to reinstall any drivers. All works good and quick too.

    And Yes, I have Aero Glass turned off because I find it annoying.

    Laugh all you want. This is a new Operating System.
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    Originally Posted by ROF
    I actually already have vista installed. It's the open beta and I already find myself enjoying it more than XP. There are a ton of shortcuts and new functionality and APPS which makes the whole experience much appreciated. Nothing like WinXP or Win2K. I should add all my hardware was recognized upon installation with no need to reinstall any drivers. All works good and quick too.

    And Yes, I have Aero Glass turned off because I find it annoying.

    Laugh all you want. This is a new Operating System.
    Knowing YOU, I bet you got it, or will get it for FREE!.
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    Maybe when ReactOS is done we will have a stable and secure windows OS. Plus since it shares a lot of wine code it would also be faster for a lot of tasks. Not to mention free.
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    Whats Vista got than XP hasn't.

    The real question is do we really need another OS. I think not.
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    A new OS sure is a good way to forget the problems of previous OS's.

    That said, it's just a part of the evolution process. Personally I won't go to it at work or home until post SP1, but I find reading any information about it very interesting all the same.
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    Originally Posted by waheed
    Whats Vista got than XP hasn't.

    The real question is do we really need another OS. I think not.
    You should have downloaded the FREE beta while you had the chance. I think it is closed now. Your questions would have been answered but for those who want to see type in XP Vs Vista in your internet search.

    The only problem is just hearing and reading about the new Operating System does not do the functionality justice. Once you use it though (AYT Search, Start Menu, Explorer, Windows DVD Maker, Specific Application Volume Settings, SFetch, etc.) you will see that everything has undergone major changes and some great features added too. The changes to Explorer and finally a useful start menu make Vista worth it's price alone.
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    Originally Posted by ROF
    I actually already have vista installed. It's the open beta and I already find myself enjoying it more than XP. There are a ton of shortcuts and new functionality and APPS which makes the whole experience much appreciated. Nothing like WinXP or Win2K. I should add all my hardware was recognized upon installation with no need to reinstall any drivers. All works good and quick too.

    And Yes, I have Aero Glass turned off because I find it annoying.

    Laugh all you want. This is a new Operating System.

    Dude, just read YOURSELF for a second
    The NEW APPS don't make for NEW OS.
    They are 'new apps', exactly as you said yourself.
    The OS is the same old Win2000 code you were laughing at LOL LOL LOL
    (as I told you in other post long time ago - if you ever get a look at the code, Im sure you'll find in the heart of it code 'stamped' copyright IBM corporation 1985, thats actually where the real roots of this vista are from, hehe (OS/2)

    Same machine with Vista runs SLOOOOWER than with Win2000, although slightly better than XP (and yes, no problems with hardware either since I made it specially for testing vista). Try for yourself, genius

    BTW: dont get too sassy LOL, Im pretty sure I was playing with longhorn much earlier than you even heard of it what makes you think we didn't get it from msoft directly (like my company - thus me indirectly ) or downloaded it as well (like you)?
    Where you even got that stupid notion that since you got it - no one else could have got it? :O
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    Originally Posted by waheed
    Whats Vista got than XP hasn't.

    The real question is do we really need another OS. I think not.
    I would extend it to:
    What Vista has that Win2000 hasn't

    As ROF said himself - it only has new apps and GUI, which all can be (and will be) configured to work with 'earlier OSes' (WindowsBlinds anyone? Im sure they'll have "Aero for XP" very soon, wanna bet? )
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    We live in an age where nearly everything is digital—the documents you create, the photos you take, and the music and videos that you enjoy on your PC. Even your daily correspondence with others through e-mail, faxes, and voice mail is digital. Your life is connected to the digital files stored on your PC.

    Windows Vista introduces breakthrough computing experiences that are both visually exciting and intuitively designed, and will positively change the ways in which you use your PC. With the new desktop experience, you can more efficiently organize and find your information. You can "see" your files and applications in a way that makes sense to you so you can confidently focus on what you want to accomplish.
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    http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/experiences/experienceit.mspx

    If MIcrosoft does not highlight new underlying code or technology on their website but instead talks only about how "elegant" it is then the conclusion can be only one...
    Seems like Vista draws its power from hardware rather then software. No breakthrough here.
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    Originally Posted by DereX888
    Dude, just read YOURSELF for a second
    The NEW APPS don't make for NEW OS.
    They are 'new apps', exactly as you said yourself.
    The OS is the same old Win2000 code you were laughing at LOL LOL LOL
    (as I told you in other post long time ago - if you ever get a look at the code, Im sure you'll find in the heart of it code 'stamped' copyright IBM corporation 1985, thats actually where the real roots of this vista are from, hehe (OS/2)
    Did you drag your mouse to click on this thread? Guess how old that code is? Shall we all go back to this time when it was written because all upgrades utilize previous code? Your logic of that it is the same old Win2000 code is not valid. And I said there are new APPS and updates to older ones. Sorry if you can't see this for yourself but after using Vista (using it right now) I can say it is a vast improvement of the extremely old and not fully functional Win2000 code. Of course, WinXP has had to listen to people saying it is Win2000 with a dress on. Anyone who uses WinXP realizes that Win2000 is just WinNT with a face lift and is absolutely nothing like WinXP in functionality or form. Of course we could argue this forever and you would still believe your illogical statements are true and I will still believe the facts.
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    Originally Posted by DereX888
    As ROF said himself - it only has new apps and GUI, which all can be (and will be) configured to work with 'earlier OSes' (WindowsBlinds anyone? Im sure they'll have "Aero for XP" very soon, wanna bet? )
    If that's all you saw me post I guess you need a stronger eyewear prescription.
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    Originally Posted by DereX888
    Im pretty sure I was playing with longhorn much earlier than you even heard of it what makes you think we didn't get it from msoft directly (like my company - thus me indirectly ) or downloaded it as well (like you)?
    Where you even got that stupid notion that since you got it - no one else could have got it? :O
    Longhorn? LOL. If you have the Vista Beta you would know the old longhorns look, act, feel, operate, and function nothing like it. Longhorn looked like Win95 and functioned like a multi-tasking DOS derivative. So you have the latest Vista Beta? What is the statement or catch phrase displayed at first boot? or from a cold boot? Not that I am being sassy but . . .

    Please let nobody else reply to this. I want to hear the catch phrase from DereX888 or from someone in his company that gave him the OS. I still smile when I see this when I boot up.
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    im happy to announce that you, sir, are an idiot (does that makes your catchphrase?)
    vista = longhorn
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    Originally Posted by DereX888
    im happy to announce that you, sir, are an idiot (does that makes your catchphrase?)
    vista = longhorn
    Vista != Longhorn.

    If you believe this to be true you are looking at such an old old old old old old version that it is sooooo unstable has a virtual unusable Aero Glass(not even Aero back then) and no that is not the boot up phrase by a long shot.

    Thank you for proving you are lying when you said you had it.

    I do not doubt others have it. According to Microsoft reps 1.2 million people logged as using it. I would imagine I am not alone as you suggested I might have thought. How I could have thought that when it was an Open Beta is impossible to imagine unless I live in your world where Vista=Longhorn=WinXP=Win2000=WinNT=???

    Keep dreaming. Someday you will grow up and maybe get a job. Maybe that job and corporation might even provide you with the fantasties you are having about the things which you brag about that you do not have.
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    Microsoft renamed Longhorn to Vista. The name change happened I think sometime between build 5048 and 5219, so there probably aren't all that many differences.
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    Originally Posted by celtic_druid
    Microsoft renamed Longhorn to Vista. The name change happened I think sometime between build 5048 and 5219, so there probably aren't all that many differences.
    You do realize that at least once per day(sometimes twice) a new build is produced and downloadable by the Microsoft Team Members? Anyone who had the leaked longhorn from last fall and the open beta knows that the Open Beta Vista is so completely different both feature-wise and look-wise that it operates like a completely different OS.
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    build 5219 was the first build marked Vista right? So that would make 5218 longhorn. Hard to imagine that there was much difference.

    The argument was about longhorn vs. vista not specifically the open beta. So that means the last longhorn build vs. the first vista build and whether there is a noticable difference or rather so much so that it isn't fair to call them the same.
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    Originally Posted by celtic_druid
    build 5219 was the first build marked Vista right? So that would make 5218 longhorn. Hard to imagine that there was much difference.

    The argument was about longhorn vs. vista not specifically the open beta. So that means the last longhorn build vs. the first vista build and whether there is a noticable difference or rather so much so that it isn't fair to call them the same.
    Actually I think the arguement was that some code written in 1985 is in Vista and therefore Vista cannot be considered a new OS. At least I think it was that. Maybe it was Vista = Win2000. I do not know but anyone who has used the Latest Open Beta of Vista knows that a tremendous amount has changed since the previous usable(if you want call it that) build.

    The thread was actually about the cost of Vista. Somehow someone dragged other antique OSs from the previous millenium into the discussion.
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    Just thought I would point out, as if it makes any difference since one build can make significantly more changes than another, my build is 5384. That means at least 160 changes since name change, of course we all know builds are not done in whole numbers but rather done as three or two digit decimals. The longhorn build was 5116.
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    Originally Posted by celtic_druid
    build 5219 was the first build marked Vista right? So that would make 5218 longhorn. Hard to imagine that there was much difference.

    The argument was about longhorn vs. vista not specifically the open beta. So that means the last longhorn build vs. the first vista build and whether there is a noticable difference or rather so much so that it isn't fair to call them the same.
    celtic_druid, arguing or discussing anythin with him (ROF) is like talking about colors of the rainbow with a blind man.
    Ignoring him is the best.
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