DVD-9 to DVD-9?

[LT9000]

OK thanks Vegas. I'll try it out soon.

[LT9000]

Feel free to ignore this if this is too many questions, but if not, I’d like to know:

1. Is there a chance the iso could become be too large to fit on DVD5 blank with the 32k gaps inserted? (I’m talking DVD9 to DVD 5 operation here where shrink is already going to have the disc close to full.)

“PgcEdit doesn't create a mds file, it uses the ImgBurn CLI interface to open ImgBurn and pass the burning parameters directly from within PgcEdit.”

2. Could there be a problem then burning with imgburn later on instead of automatically straight away from pgcedit?

[LIGHTNING UK!]

If PgcEdit has done its job properly, ImgBurn will still find the layer break position and present it to you in its very own little 'Select Layer Break Position' window.

[VegasBud]

LT9000,

Remember a while back in this thread I told you all this might be unnecessary because ImgBurn version 2 would be out shortly? Well, it's out. I've just started playing with it, but there is definitely an option to ensure 32k gaps between the IFO and BUP files, has a real snappy layer break setting function, and it now accepts folders without the need to create an ISO. Plus there are other really neat features.

I strongly recommend you head on over to ImgBurn.com and pick up a copy. I think your life (and everyone else's) just got a whole lot easier.

By the way, in case you didn't know, LIGHTNING UK! (who just gave you some advice) is the author of ImgBurn.

Thank you, LIGHTNING UK!

[LT9000]

If PgcEdit has done its job properly, ImgBurn will still find the layer break position and present it to you in its very own little 'Select Layer Break Position' window.

Thanks LUK. Great code slinging you've done over there.

[LT9000]

"...there is definitely an option to ensure 32k gaps between the IFO and BUP files, has a real snappy layer break setting function, and it now accepts folders without the need to create an ISO. Plus there are other really neat features."

WoW! Can't wait to try it out.

I notice pgcedit often makes changes to video files when it opens them. Maybe I'll just let pgcedit do it's thing, save and close, then start up imgburn 2 to finish.

Hope that method will work OK, I don't like making $2 dollar coasters.

Thanks for all the detailed instructions you've given here Vegasbud, it's been a real help.

[LT9000]

Here's a Q, should you uninstall the old imgburn before installing imgburn 2.0?

[LIGHTNING UK!]

Only if want to clean out the settings - which you can do anyway if you want to via the normal install program.

[LT9000]

Vegasbud,

What is the new procedure going to be for DVD 9 TO DVD 9 now that imgburn 2 is out for those of us who use DVD Decryptor etc. to get things done?

And also for when the newer encryption comes into play? Where will pgcedit, and maybe ripit4me fit in to all this?

P.S.

I used imgburn 2 to create an iso/mds from shrink output video files last night. Tested the disc I burned from that - no problems.

32k gaps appear to be a default in the imgburn 2 settings.

[VegasBud]

LT9000,

For the fans of the DvdDecrypter "ISO - Read"," ISO - Write" technique, they just continue doing things the way they know and love. They could burn the ISO output from the DvdDecrypter "ISO - Read" using ImgBurn if they want, but doing it all with a couple of clicks from inside DvdDecrypter does have a certain appeal, and DvdDecrypter can still burn burn a disk as well as (or better than) any other software.

If DvdDecrypter (by itself) chokes on a disk with the new protection systems (which, after all, were designed specifically to choke it), both the "PSL2 Plugin for PgcEdit" and RipIt4Me assist DvdDecrypter in accomplishing the rip, and then clean up the unmanageable goop in the raw rip. Of the two, RipIt4Me is faster, easier, and produces a rip that is just as good as the Plugin's rip.

Since removing these protections very likely results in changing the size of the dvd (as compared to the way it exists on the disk) and any number of the titlesets, the correct place for the layer break may have changed. To guard against a possible layer break problem, it should be checked/reset. One of the new features of ImgBurn makes setting the layer break not only simple, but also flexible, even helping you decide which location is likely to be the best choice. Of course, the same can be said for the PgcEdit way of setting the layer break.

It comes down to which way of setting the layer break you prefer, PgcEdit or ImgBurn. The ImgBurn interface is very nice, but I also like the PgcEdit way, which actually allows you to view the location where the layer break will go. Since both ways use ImgBurn for the actual burning, it literally comes down to which way to set the layer break you like best.

Also I just noticed imgburn 2 does not make an iso if you output to device. Makes me wonder if iso creation first is safer.

I wouldn't think it's safer, but if you like that way better, you can create the ISO with ImgBurn, and then burn the ISO with ImgBurn with an extra mouse click or two. You don't really need the ISO anymore, but using one produces just as good a burn.

[LT9000]

"For the fans of the DvdDecrypter "ISO - Read"," ISO - Write" technique, they just continue doing things the way they know and love."

Well these are some of the best methods and programs to get things done correct?

Next time I run into new encryption, I'll probly try ripit4me, and then turn it over to imgburn 2. Hopefully, we'll all be burning better discs now as a result of your testing and these new programs.

[VegasBud]

Well these are some of the best methods and programs to get things done correct?

Absolutely. The simplicity and effectiveness can't be duplicated any other way. I'm pretty sure the phrase "Simplicity is Beauty" was written by somebody that had just done an "ISO - Read", "ISO - Write".

The only reason I'm not using the DvdDecrypter "ISO - Read", "ISO - Write" method, myself, is I get a really bad nervous twitch in my left eye if I try watch a dvd that hasn't had all the warnings, notices, previews, commercials, etc. ripped out by their scraggly little roots.

[Seeker47]

The only reason I'm not using the DvdDecrypter "ISO - Read", "ISO - Write" method, myself, is I get a really bad nervous twitch in my left eye if I try watch a dvd that hasn't had all the warnings, notices, previews, commercials, etc. ripped out by their scraggly little roots.

How ? And you are doing this with PGCedit ? I have fooled around with VOBblanker a little bit for this, and have seen some guides for both programs. But, I wouldn't call it particularly easy or intuitive. This gets back to your (extremely apt) zeroing in on simplicity as a primary virtue. Maybe I'm asking for too much, or maybe I'm just lazy or hesitant to learn new programs, but I'd like the process of removing these things to be as simple and straightforward as the slider bar START frame <----> END frame option (with Chapter reporting and Video Preview of what you're doing, as you do it) in Shrink's reauthor mode. The see the video as you go feature is essential. I don't think VOBblanker or PGCedit ever get that direct or accessible, nor are they likely to. This may ultimately drive me towards purchasing something like Videoredo, in order to do this stuff.

[VegasBud]

Seeker47,

Generally, I use a combination of VobBlanker, PgcEdit, and CloneDvd2. The combination varies from one disk to another. Unfortunately, I don't think simplicity would apply very well to the way I do it, but sometimes I do extra work to fix things that wouldn't even be noticeable, just for the challenge. Some people like doing crossword puzzles, I like making screwed up dvd's all pretty and shiny inside.

For simplicity, the only suggestion I can think of would be CloneDvd2, if you don't already have it. There are a few things it can't correct, like garbage hidden in the menus and VMG, but for many dvd's that's not a problem. It's not only the definition of simplicity, it's a very versatile tool, and most dvd's come out very nice without using anything else. The few things it can't do, like menu or vmg work, can be done with a touchup in freeware programs. Of course, the more you get into fancy stuff, the farther you get from simplicity.

CloneDvd2 costs $39, but you get free lifetime updates, and you don't have to get some jerk company's permission to put it on a new computer when you get one. There's a free 21 day trial period, so it doesn't cost you anything to try it and see if it's what you're looking for.