Audio and Video out of synch

[HartsVideo]

I have an .avi movie in my pc. When I got it, it wouldn't play. I received a message about it having something to do with interleaving, I think the word was.

I use AutoGK to correct a lot of things so I gave it a shot. It did a terrific job. The picture is crystal clear and the audio is great but they're out of synch. . . the video is ahead of the audio by 2 to 4 seconds.

What program can I use to correct this?

Denise

[guns1inger]

If it is an avi, load it into virtualdubmod. Go to Streams->Stream List. Right-click on the audio track and select Interleaving. In the lower half of the dialogue is a section called Audio Skew (or similar). You can enter a number in millisecond to adjust the start of the audio. A positive number will make the audio start later, a negative number will make it start sooner.

Note : This will only help if the audio sync is out by a constant amount the whole way through. If it drifts in and out you have a much bigger problem.

[HartsVideo]

Well, I have a larger problem now. I Googled the problem and one of the pages that I opened described a method to put the video in sync by using VirtualDub. When I performed the steps given, the boxes that should have opened, didn't open. So I decided to see if there was an update to the version that I had. There was an update and I downloaded and installed it but it still didn't help. I did find out that the audio and video was out of sync for only the first 23 minutes, so someone had already tried to get the audio and video in sync but started it at 23 minutes for some reason. I decided to quit the project for a while and rip a DVD to save as an .avi file for backup. I've done this at least 100 times with no problems. This time, DVDDecrypter decrypted it with no problem but when I opened AutoGK and chose the IFO file, I received these messages:

“Vstrip_ifo.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close.”

For more information, click here:

I clicked here and got:
Error signature
AppName: vstrip_ifo.exe AppVer: 0.0.0.0 ModName: vstrip.dll
ModVer: 0.0.0.0 Offset: 000038d1

To view technical information about the error report, click here:


I again clicked here and got:
Exception Information
Code: 0xc0000005 Flags: 0x00000000
Record: 0x0000000000000000 Address: 0x00000000100038d1

System Information
Windows NT 5.1 Build: 2600
CPU Vendor Code: 68747541 – 69746E65 – 444D4163
CPU Version: 00000631 CPU Feature Code: 0183F9ff (This info is wrong)

Module 1
Vstrip_ifo.exe
Image Base: 0x00400000 Image Size: 0x00000000
Checksum:0x00000000 Time Stamp: 0x2a425e19
Version Information

Signature: 00000000
StrucVer: 00000000
FileVer: (0.0:0.0)
ProdVer: (0.0:0.0)
FlagMask: 00000000
Flags: 00000000
OS: 00000000
FileType: 00000000
SubType: 00000000
FileData: 00000000: 00000000

And there were hundreds of lines after these.

WhenI click OK to close each box, another box opened that said “Error Parsing IFO File.”

I wanted to see if AutoGK would accept the VOB file and it started to process so I stopped it.

So I uninstalled and deleted the following files and downloaded and installed new/updated versions of thee files to ensure that part of a file didn't become corrupt:

AutoGK - GordianKnot.RipPack.0.35.0.Setup.2
AC3Filter 1.01
AutoGK v2.27 071406
AVI Codec 1.2b
Avisynth v2.5.6.a
DivX 5-2-1 2
TMPGEnc-2.524.63.181-Free
Virtual Dub v 1-6-15 (stable), 32-bit version
WMV1 codec
x264-516 codec
Xvid 1.2
Morgan Stream Switcher 0.99
MPEG2 codec installer
WMV1 codec
XP Codec Pac
and several other programs

I also ran the video through FreeDVD v 1.0 and it freed several protectors, so I decrypted it again but I received the same error messages as I mentioned above.

I ran Sherlock Codec Checker to make sure that my codecs were ok and they were.

I then took out a DVD that I'd already ripped and decrypted it and, again, I received the same error messages as I mentioned above.

So somewhere along the line, it seems that the new version of VirtualDub changed something in my pc. It actually obtained the wrong System Information for my pc that I put in bold, above. I have Windows XP Pro.



An important question that I need answered is, when I downloaded and installed the updated version of Virtual Dub, it installed 3 .exe files: auxsetup.exe, vdub.exe and VirtualDub.exe in the hopes that it would execute them to work with AutoGK, but it didn't help.

At this point, I'm fresh out of ideas. Working with DVDDecrypter and AutoGK was the perfect solution for me and I'd like to get it to work again. What does AutoGK need in order to work again?

Denise

[manono]

Hi-

This may or may not help with your particular problem, but if VDub is in the loop, you'll never get synched audio. I'm not sure it's even possible to actually use VDub with AutoGK anyway, but any of the work you've done with it has been wasted. AutoGK uses VDubMod. VDub itself doesn't support VBR MP3 audio. The 2 can coexist on your computer, but VDub won't be used (or shouldn't be used, if you've managed to point AutoGK to it somehow).

At this point you have multiple copies of some of the software clogging up your computer and possibly interfering with each other. I don't know what the XP Codec pack is, but you don't need it, and it may be bad for your system. My suggestion is to uninstall everything on your list except possibly the things that have nothing to do with AutoGK (like TMPGEnc), and then reinstall only AutoGK and the Gordian Knot Rippack . If you decide later you need more codecs, then either install them individually, or install the Gordian Knot Codec Pack, which is safe. I have the 2 GKnot packs and AutoGK on my computer with no problems.

Then try again with a new DVD. I'm not sure you should expect AutoGK to fix that funky AVI you mentioned earlier. The synch problem you describe is difficult, but not impossibe, to fix, involving splitting it in 2 where the asynch begins, fixing the 2nd part and rejoining after.

Whatever you read about using VDub to resynch the audio was worthless, as AutoGK creates VBR MP3 (I'm assuming you're creating MP3 audio), and VDub doesn't support it. If it suggested decoding to WAV audio and then reencoding to CBR MP3 audio, that's completely pointless. You can also create CBR MP3 using AutoGK, but it's unnecessary and inferior.

[HartsVideo]

Well, it took me a very long time to do everything I could to get AutoGK to open IFO files. I delete everything and installed everything that AutoGK asked for but it didn't help. After I deleted all of the codec paks, virtualdub, avisynth, divx, xvid, etc, I installed AutoGK again. When I started it, it first told me that xvid and divx were missing, so I downloaded and installed them. Then it told me that TmPGEnc was missing and I downloaded and installed it, then Avisynth was missing so I downloaded and installed it, and then vstrip was missing so I downloaded and installed it. I also downloaded and installed GordianKnot.RipPack.0.35.0.Setup.2 to give it an extra kick. After each installation, I rebooted my pc.

After all of the programs that AutoGk said were missing were installed, I uninstalled and reinstalled AutoGK. I then noticed that AutoGK came with all of these files, so I don't now why it asked me for them. When I started AutoGK and tried to open an IFO file, I received the message that said "vstrip_ifo.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close" again. I had also noticed that AutoGK came with vstrip when it was installing, so I uninstalled everything, deleted every file, and ran PC onPoint, CCleaner, and RegSeeker, opened Dial-a-fix and I purged dns and sfc to clean up everything. I ran CkDsk and defragged my hard drive. I downloaded, installed updates and ran SpyBot S&D, Ad-Aware SE Personal, Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool, and Windows Defender just in case my pc caught something, and all scans came out clean . . . not even nominal threats.

I then downloaded and installed only AutoGK and tried to open an IFO file and it again told me that "vstrip_ifo.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close." So I downloaded and installed GordianKnot.RipPack.0.35.0.Setup.2 with the hope that the additional codecs and files would do the trick, but it didn't help.

The only thing that I did prior to having this problem with AutoGK was that I downloaded an update to VirtualDub, which I have since uninstalled and deleted.

I also tried a System Restore to a point 2 days prior to this problem but AutoGK still didn't work.

I'm out of ideas as to why vstrip encounters a problem all of a sudden, causing AutoGK not to be able to open IFO files.

Any new ideas would be greatly welcomed.

Denise

[manono]

Gee, that's quite an adventure you had. As I was reading down, I was hoping to myself that it would come to a happy conclusion. No such luck. You must be one frustrated and maybe very unhappy person about now. I did some searching, and came up with this:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=107309&highlight=vstrip_ifo.exe+has+encountere...needs+to+close

If this is a relatively new DVD of a newish movie, and it might have ARccOS protection, I would suggest decrypting using the new RipIt4Me, possibly in the new-in-this-version Movie Mode. Then try the result in AutoGK.

If that's not it, then go to the link in the first post of that thread to which I linked, and see if any of the suggestions offered help you. Good luck.

[HartsVideo]

Hi Manono,

It's not just this one movie that I'm having a problem with. The vstrip problem causes AutoGK to not be able to use the IFO file of any DVD that I decrypt. I tried it using DVD's that have previously gone through AutoGK with no problems and I get the same vstrip message. If it were just this one DVD, I'd have given up long ago. I've spent a total of about 24 waking hours trying to get it to work again. What surprised me the most was that the vstrip problem was still present when I did a system restore to a date 2 days before the problem arose. I'm just about always ripping something or another so I know it was working at that time. I hate doing system restores because I update my programs, defrag, run clean-up tools regularly and I don't like getting the dirt back, but I was willing to do it this time, but no go.

If anyone can think of a solution to why AutoGK won't work on any IFO file, I'd be willing to try it.

Denise

[HartsVideo]

Hi,

I just found the procedure that I used that I couldn't finish because the boxes shown in the instructions didn't match the box that opened for me (I mentioned this in a previous post).

http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/virtualdub_procedures.htm

I had gotten only to the second step when I had to stop. When I clicked on CTRL + o, no file opened so I couldn't proceed. I did, however, uninstall the frameserver by running PROXYOFF.REG. The second step is:

Starting the Frameserver

Then, assuming that you haven't already loaded an AVI file, load your video file (Control - o), and set Video to Full Processing Mode:

While I was just there, I ran the Benchmark tests and they both passed successfully.

So this is the procedure that caused AutoGK to stop accepting IFO files because vstrip encounters a problem. I hope this helps somebody to come up with a solution now that the exact steps taken are known.

Denise

[manono]

Hi-

So you're saying that just installing the frameserver (or partially installing it) was the source of all your problems? And uninstalling it solved them? Now that's really strange, as you just wouldn't think that would in any way affect VStrip. That's a new one on me, and as I'm a mod over there, it might indeed be useful in the future. Thank you for reporting back, and I'm glad you got your problem solved, although not nearly as glad as you must be, and I apologize for not being of more help.

[DarrellS]

Whatever you read about using VDub to resynch the audio was worthless, as AutoGK creates VBR MP3 (I'm assuming you're creating MP3 audio), and VDub doesn't support it. If it suggested decoding to WAV audio and then reencoding to CBR MP3 audio, that's completely pointless. You can also create CBR MP3 using AutoGK, but it's unnecessary and inferior.

AutoGK uses CBR MP3 by default. It only creates VBR if you change the settings and force it to.
VBR audio is not mean't to be in AVI files. That's why Virtualdub gives you the error. To state the CBR is unnecessary and inferior is total hogwash.

The problem with all the VBR AVI files that you download off the internet is that everyone thinks they know what they are doing and none of them have a clue.

Virtualdub will not create a VBR AVI because VBR is not meant to be in AVI. Almost all VBR AVI are created by a knockoff called Nandub and now that people have found that they can use whatever audio file they want in VirtualdubMod, VBR AVI is showing up from it also. We know now that AutoGK is a culprit also.

The reason that the edited AVI is screwed up is not because of anything to do with Virtualdub. You cannot edit a file that has VBR audio in it without fixing the audio first. Once you edit the file without fixing the audio first, it is ruined forever. A VBR file will play fine in most players but the second you try and alter the file in any way, it's screwed. Well to be exact, the second you put VBR audio in an AVI, it is screwed.

[drewzor]

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[HartsVideo]

Hi All,

manono, it didn't solve the problem. I posted the steps taken that made AutoGK not accept an IFO file in the hopes that someone would know the cure. Installing and uninstalling the frameserver caused the problem. I installed it and 2 minutes later I uninstalled it because I couldn't load a file using Control + o. Immediately after doing this, I decided to give up and get another version of the movie another day and I started working on a DVD. I decrypted it but AutoGK wouldn't accept the IFO file. All of this happened within a 5 minute period of time.

I know nothing about VBR and CBR files. I have no idea how any of these programs work. I know only how to use them or follow the instructions. I'll be scrapping the movie because I can't get the first 23 minutes into sync and I haven't cared about that since my first post. I used a copy of the movie to work with so the original is still intact. What I do care about is that installing and uninstalling the frameserver caused AutoGK to no longer accept an IFO file and the message that I receive is “Vstrip_ifo.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close.” Now, what in heaven's name is causing this? I now know that it has something to do with installing and uninstalling the frameserver because those were the only steps that I took before AutoGK would no longer accept an IFO file, and those steps permanently damaged something in my pc, whether or not anyone thinks they couldn't. The evidence is that AutoGK longer accepts an IFO file immediately after I did this. It does not accept an IFO file for any DVD that I decrypt, even though I've previously decrypted and converted them to .avi using AutoGK. More evidence is that I tried another System Restore last night to a point last week. AutoGK still could not accept an IFO file due to vstrip. There are no problems with the DVDs. There is only a problem with AutoGk ever since I installed and uninstalled the frameserver. What this damaged, I have no idea, and that's what I'll like to find out so that I can fix it.

manano, you were of help, and thanks.

[manono]

AutoGK uses CBR MP3 by default. It only creates VBR if you change the settings and force it to.

AutoGK uses ABR audio by default, and it's a form of VBR. Look, I saw where you were spouting this nonsense in another thread, but let it pass. Now you come here and pollute a thread I'm in with these same ignorant ravings. Yes, AVI wasn't designed to use VBR. So what? Beginning with NanDub, and later with VDubMod it became possible to mux it in. Anyone with any sense knows that VBR MP3 has better quality for the same file size, or the same quality for a smaller filesize. That battle was fought years ago. I've made probably over 2000 AVIs myself, and except for my earliest ones, all have VBR audio. All can be edited, split, joined, muxed, demuxed with no problems at all. None. If you have problems, I'd say it's user incompetence. Most of the problems come when converting to another format, say AVI2DVD, when the AVI has VBR MP3. Still no problem if you know what you're doing. You demux the audio first, and then convert it separately.

If Avery Lee doesn't want to support VBR MP3 with VDub, that's his perogative. Others have thought differently and made it possible in varients of his excellent app.

Edit: Had said CBR once where I had meant to say VBR.

[manono]

HartsVideo-

You're right. I didn't read closely enough, especially near the end of your earlier post.

I'll see what I can find out over at Doom9 from some of the very experienced AutoGK users. The problem, though, is that the developer, len0x, has finished his work on AutoGK, and pretty much dropped out of sight, and gone onto other things in his life. So I don't think I can get him on the case.

[DarrellS]

AutoGK uses ABR audio by default,

More stupid mentally retarded nonsense that spews from your mouth. You have no idea what you are talking about.



Almost everything that you have stated in your post is total bullcrap.
You wanna keep creating corrupted files to upload to the internet fine but don't spout your nonsense to other members so that they can do the same.

BTW, it was you that I replied to first, not drewzor.

I've made probably over 2000 AVIs myself

So you are the nandub freak that's polluting the internet with illegal copies of VBR/DivX/XviD DVDrips.

all have VBR audio. All can be edited, split, joined, muxed, demuxed with no problems at all.

Bullcrap.

I'd say it's user incompetence. Most of the problems come when converting to another format, say AVI2DVD, when the AVI has VBR MP3. Still no problem if you know what you're doing. You demux the audio first, and then convert it separately.

The user incompeitence is from users like you. If you knew anything about creating AVI in the first place then there would be no need to demux the audio and fix it. It there wasn't anything wrong with it then you wouldn't need to FIX IT.

[drewzor]

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[HartsVideo]

I just thought I'd let everyone know that my problem is resolved. On June 9th, I made a shadow copy of my C Drive and put it on one of my external hard drives. It's the first one I'd ever made so I guess I had someone whispering in my ear. A few hours ago I created a restore point (I wasn't sure if that was useless or not since I was going to be resetting my pc to June 9th) and clicked on the Back-Up. It worked. AutoGK can again use the IFO files to create .avi files again.

I still don't know what caused AutoGK to have the vsplit problem but I'll leave it to you guys to figure it out or not.

But I learned an important lesson . . . I'll be making shadow copies at least once a month from now on because there are some things that a System Restore just can't correct.

I think that there's a vocabulary problem between newbies and computer gurus. Many of us were born when Ed Sullivan had a popular tv show and we had to bring in the reception with rabbit ears and a fine tuner dial. We didn't grow up with electronics. We grew up with roller skates, jump ropes, balls, baby dolls, marbles and other toys, and we played outside with our friends. Most of you are very patient and try to understand our problems and try to teach and help us and we're all very greatful for the help and for these forums where we can post our problems with the anticipation that someone may be able to help us resolve them. I tried to take an extra step and put the audio and video of a movie in sync but it blew up in my face. Maybe next time it won't because I learned some things about how to do it and what not to do. I'm just glad that it had a happy ending.

Denise

[manono]

More stupid mentally retarded nonsense that spews from your mouth. You have no idea what you are talking about.

Nice. You posted a pic of changed settings. An honest mistake, I'm sure. When first installed, the "Auto" box is ticked for "Output audio type". For 2 CD rips, you get the original AC3. For 1 CD rips, the default is ABR MP3@128.

Step 2: By default the first Audio track is chosen, but feel free to choose another of the audio tracks. If you go for more than 1 CD encode it will be included unchanged (not converted to MP3) with the video. However, if you are doing 1CD or less encode then it will be automatically converted to ABR MP3 (which is a form of VBR MP3) at 128 kbps. Second audio track can be selected as well and it might be the Director's Commentary, or a second language. In this example I've chosen to include main audio track and a secondary track that is a Director's Commentary. This second audio track will be encoded as ABR MP3 at 128 kbps. Advanced Settings (step 4) will allow you to select audio settings manually: whether always leave audio as original AC3/DTS or always convert to MP3. Note that if you are using manual audio settings with two audio tracks then they would both have the same settings. Another thing to remember is that if you are using "target quality" mode (step 3) then by default first audio will be left as AC3/DTS.

http://www.autogk.me.uk/modules.php?name=TutorialEN

I think I'll retire from any further discussion with you. Thanks for taking HartsVideo's thread way off track and for trying to drag it down to your level. Feel free to have the last word.

[manono]

HartsVideo-

I still don't know what caused AutoGK to have the vsplit problem but I'll leave it to you guys to figure it out or not.

I'd like to understand why it happened to you. If I thought I could recreate the problem, I'd be almost tempted, just so I could try and figure it out. Anyway, did you just forget about that image file (which is what you mean by "shadow copy" I think?) you made on June 9, when you were doing the Restore thing? And only remembered about it a couple of days later? Oh well. Good going and good luck.

[HartsVideo]

No, I remembered the day before yesterday but what I found was the Emergency Utilities folder that I created. When you get older, you'll see how easily it is to forget, and all of the people I know say the same thing, and it's a pain in the a**, but there you have it.

I could have sworn that I'd made something to help me but I didn't remember it until I searched all of my drives. I have 2 internal and 7 external drives and all of them are just about full. The folder name was Backup. I searched for Back-Up.

Also, AutoGK started giving me the vstrip message again and I didn't do anything but enter files into it. The first few IFO's went right through but all of the others won't. I tried to enter the first one that I entered where I didn't get the vstrip message, but I got the vstrip message anyway.

So I guess this is one for the books.

Denise