Over 100 Sony Movies for Sale at GUBA.com

[TheFamilyMan]

This bickering can go on forever...a little restraint and respect for differing opinions should be considered here.

Anyways, I guess this may seem attractive to the fools who pay full prices for items on ebay that could be found cheaper elsewhere, or who drop $10 to watch a movie in their hotel/motel room. Laziness and ignorance must have been a major marketing factor here. Just my thoughts...

[bendixG15]

ROF hijacked this tread and is having a good time with you guys...

[ozymango]

It's a slow news day out there, I guess.

[MOVIEGEEK]

Hey Baldrick et al,
Can we get an Ignore feature on this website?

[lordsmurf]

OK! If you use reverse logic for all your purchases, Next gen DVDs are doomed to failure.

I can already give about 10-15 reasons why next-gen will fail, and that's using normal logic. Only in the lollipop land of MPAA and studios would it need to be reverse logic. Then again, they normally deal in the illogical, so I guess from their perspective, normal logic would be reverse logic.

a little restraint and respect for differing opinions should be considered here.

In theory, I agree. But there is a fine line between "differing opinion" and "stupidity".

[BJ_M]

i did some checking since it was mentioned ..


guba does indeed own a bunch of porn sites .... which makes it even odder that sony is so in bed with them now (no pun intended of course)

[dafoe]

This is great news and a good price too.

How do you figure?

Time is money. Movies on a network. No conversion/ripping time. Saved shelf space. No pesky discs to scratch. Nobody coming over and borrowing your movies.

Less Headaches, Less Money, Less Time, Convenient Shopping, More Shelf Space. Great News at a Good Price!

I watched the replies to ROFs original post with bemusment. I thought "Clearly these people have failed to see the dripping sarcasm." Even considering the source, there is no way this guy is serious. Looks like I was the one that was wrong.

Nobody is attacking you ROF. Not for having a different opinion anyway. People are taking issue with the fact that your stance is completely outrageous. A difference of opinion is one thing. But you have taken a position that everybody here finds outlandish.
The only people this deal works out for is Hollywood. Unfortunately for them, they can't force people to buy into it.

[ROF]

I watched the replies to ROFs original post with bemusment. I thought "Clearly these people have failed to see the dripping sarcasm." Even considering the source, there is no way this guy is serious. Looks like I was the one that was wrong.

Nobody is attacking you ROF. Not for having a different opinion anyway. People are taking issue with the fact that your stance is completely outrageous. A difference of opinion is one thing. But you have taken a position that everybody here finds outlandish.
The only people this deal works out for is Hollywood. Unfortunately for them, they can't force people to buy into it.

Outrageous? Is it outrageous for me to finally be able to purchase movies and be able to watch in a format suitable to a networked lifestyle? I watch my movies from anywhere, anytime. I travel frequently and find it convenient to not have to carry around physical media discs but instead plug in my laptop, establish a net connection, and listen to my music and watch my movies. This offering adds value to my life because I no longer need to spend time wandering around a store looking for a disc, purchasing it, taking it home, converting it to a usable format, and watching my movie the way I want to. Now I can just surf, pay, download, and watch anywhere.

As I said before, it is just my opinion. I think this a great deal and a very a good price for me.

[MOVIEGEEK]

ROF,
I respect your opinion but I disagree with it.$20US is not a good price when there's no packaging,freight or middle men costs...$10 for a downloaded movie is a good price for me.

[ROF]

umm . . Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought there were $10USD movies being sold. Do you honestly pay $20USD for a DVD? I rarely do.

What would be nice is if the rental service they speak about is for In Theater Movies.

[BJ_M]

no - they are selling them for 20$ -- -5-9$ would make better sense since you cant burn them anyway

[ROF]

I read $9.99.

[BJ_M]

New releases are priced at $19.99 and catalog titles will retail from $9.99.

"from" is a good marketing term

[ROF]

It's good enough for me and MOVIEGEEK says $10 Downloads are fair for him. That is two people in this small universe called Videohelp.

I'd say this will do alright. It's a great deal at a fair price. Who knows you may find they have a movie on sale you might buy too.

[BJ_M]

they are not selling outside the usa --

[ROF]

That will hopefully change. I look forward to more of these types of services which provide a useful product to consumers.

[jagabo]

I wouldn't pay more than $2 for a download. And even then only if it had no DRM.

[BJ_M]

that is unreasonable ...

2$ would not even cover expenses

[BJ_M]

online movie service CinemaNow announced it had raised US$ 20 million in financing, including a large amount from satellite company Echostar Communications, which operates Dish Network. Joining LionsGate and other investors with a seat on the board of directors, it's a safe bet that CinemaNow and Dish could announce some cross-licensing or cross-promotional deals in the future. Up for speculation, however, is whether this could add CinemaNow's high-definition video-on-demand for the satellite provider. Echostar has been aggresively adding HD content and channels to its lineup in recent months, and this could be another step towards defending against DirecTV and cable providers in maintaining its strong lead in the HD area.

[ROF]

I wouldn't pay more than $2 for a download. And even then only if it had no DRM.

You are joking? You do realize most hardcopy media is DRMed. And like BJ_M says $2USD will not even cover expenses.

[jimmalenko]

Interesting concept ...

It doesn't affect me (yet) since I am outside the US, but all the same I have a few thoughts on the matter. It's hard to be subjective without lacing opinion into it, but I'll do my best

The point raised about extra features is a good one; one would presume that these will be movie-only downloads. Personally I don't care for extras, but for those that do, pressed DVD wins out as a better option.

The point raised about backup / power failure / hard drive dying etc etc is trivial, since you could simply copy the file to a backup hard drive or burn as data to a CD or DVD, just as you can with a pressed DVD. Once downloaded (or store-purchased), it's then the responsibility of the owner (you) to do something about a backup strategy. If you don't, then you can only blame yourself. If there's no backup strategy available, or those available are not feasible, then it's relevant.

The point raised about no conversion or ripping time is kinda moot since there will still be a downloading time. An 8Mbit connection will DL a 700MB file in around 12 minutes by my calculations, provided of course that the server is capable of maintaining that upload speed to multiple clients and the clients get the full allotment from their ISPs and are not DL-ing anything else. In reality, I'd like to think I could back up a DVD in a comparable time.

The point raised about an ignore feature is a fantastic idea
One I've asked about a few times before, mind you

Is it outrageous for me to finally be able to purchase movies and be able to watch in a format suitable to a networked lifestyle? I watch my movies from anywhere, anytime. I travel frequently and find it convenient to not have to carry around physical media discs but instead plug in my laptop, establish a net connection, and listen to my music and watch my movies. This offering adds value to my life because I no longer need to spend time wandering around a store looking for a disc, purchasing it, taking it home, converting it to a usable format, and watching my movie the way I want to. Now I can just surf, pay, download, and watch anywhere.

What happens when your laptop's hard drive dies ? Out come the physical media discs containing your backed-up movies so you can copy them onto your new hard drive, right ?

Of course then you're limited in the number of movies your hard drive can store physically, just as you're limited by how many DVDs your lounge-room can store physically.

It's really just a sign of the times - almost anything these days is available for those with enough money, without leaving the comfort of their own home. It's like people who happily paid $$$ for DVDXCopy, when you could accomplish the same thing using freeware tools like VOBlanker, DVDShrink and PGCEdit.

And the old adage rings true - vote with your feet and your wallet. Those who think it's acceptable can continue to pay, and get what they paid for. Others may think that's a lazy or unworkable solution, and can continue to purchase pressed DVDs. It's a choice thing.

[Supreme2k]

I wouldn't pay more than $2, and even then, it would have to be out of BJ_M's pocket.




And BJ_M, one sales word for you:

VOLUME!


@jim, et al.,

The ignore feature has one very annoying weakness:

Blah, blah, blah, 1984, blah

[BJ_M]

as volume goes up to a point - so do expenses --

more staff, more bandwidth , larger infrastructure - requiring larger staff and so forth ...


there is a break even point

[BJ_M]

one song is a buck or so for ipod..

one whole movie at double that is nutz

[jagabo]

one song is a buck or so for ipod..

one whole movie at double that is nutz

No, a buck for a song is nuts.

[Supreme2k]

No, a buck for a song is nuts.

BOOYA!

[ROF]

one song is a buck or so for ipod..

one whole movie at double that is nutz

No, a buck for a song is nuts.

Right.

{- Sarcasm On -}
Music should only cost pennies or be free. Nobody should get paid and artists or the representatives should just pay for the infrastructure and human salaries that make downloading possible.

{- Sarcasm Off -}

[Rich86]

It is just an opinion. Get over it. It's not your opinion obviously.

This is a great idea at a good price value.

Now that ROF has weighed in favoring this product launch in spite of the completely mindless pricing and value proposition offered to customers by GUBA - you know this product will fail miserably.

OK! If you use reverse logic for all your purchases, Next gen DVDs are doomed to failure.

Subliminal: Buy 5 next gen DVD devices this year.

This isn't a next gen product. It's just a completely one-sided value proposition designed to minimize value to the paying customer and maximize profit and recurring income to the product provider . . aka a "rip-off".

Subliminal: Take all comments by ROF with a large grain of salt because it is almost impossible to determine if ROF is really this foolish - or just likes yanking people's chains . . .