legal way to use dvd material without use of copyprotectbreaking software

[poescp]

is there a legal way to use dvd material without use of copyprotectbreaking software ie. dvddecrypter.
i have heard of software that kind of links in between the dvd material and the final output, like kind of grabs/records the dvdmaterial without breaking copyprotection.

[waheed]

What do you mean "legal way to use"

Use for what? Playback or Backup.

Sure, you can playback wihtout breaking the copy protection. But in order to backup a copy protected DVD, there is no way around it other than bypassing the protection.

Im assuming you're talking about AnyDVD. It makes the DVD appear unprotected and region free by running in the background. But even AnyDVD needs to bypass the protection. It only does so in the background, so you dont even realise the DVD is protected in the first place.

[ntscuser]

While we're on the subject can someone tell me how to make an omelette without breaking any eggs?

[gll99]

Prior to decss, programs would let a software player decrypt the DVD and then grab the decrypted streams. A number of apps used to do it this way. This is how we made vcd's svcd's etc.

[poescp]

@waheed
actually more for presentation purpose. i want to ie. show friends of mine a 2 - 3 minute clip of a dvd (adding my own made German subtitles to it), instead of having to take the whole dvd (which I own) with me.

using dgindex, would that be legal? opening a .vob file and then demuxing to .m2v?

[guns1inger]

If it is a commercial, CSS protected DVD then you will have to crack the protection before DGIndex can read the VOBs. You will have to either rip the disc to your HDD, or use something like AnyDVD to crack it on the fly.

[adam]

By your listed location I am assuming you are in Austria, so I'm sorry to say that there is no way to do what you want to do legally.

In Austria's Copyright law, the section on "Technological protection measures" makes it a violation to circumvent such things as CSS. It does not make one bit of difference whether you use a decryptor tool or play the DVD in some way and simply record the decoded output. Either way you are still circumventing it. The sole purpose of the encyrption is to prevent unauthorized copying, and that is exactly what you are doing regardless of how you do it.

Now in most countries you are allowed to bypass encryption if you have a lawful right to make the copy. You have a somewhat weak argument that what you are doing is legal under Fair Use. But Austria's law is very explicit and very strict on this point. It makes absolutely no exception. Even if you have a lawful right to make the copy you cannot bypass any form of protection measure, in any manner, without authorization from the copyright holder. The law even gives an example of a distributor who licenses the right to distribute a movie. Even they would be prohibited from bypasing encryption to make the copies that they licensed the rights to sell.

To legally do what you are asking you need to at least find a DVD with no encryption. The most practical thing to do is to use old public domain footage or shoot something yourself.