nero is dead, any alternative?

[Dv8ted2]

I really would like to use only imgburn, but its limited as it burns only images

as I stated in my first post, I want to move on, but I am worried about compatibility and reliability

I am afraid that nero and manufacturers are exchanging info in a more intense way, than other software developers can obtain info about hardware

I believe P M 1.6 should be just fine, more than enough to be able to burn a media, so its obvious we re talking about bloatware

the details are at hand, but the fact is that where a freeware small app, imgburn, worked, nero failed

I am using Sony Vaio laptop, tayo-yuden media (one of the best) and I let nero burn at the speed it decides

Doesn't the fact that others, including myself, can burn without problems using Nero imply that Nero is not at fault? It is either your setup or your discs.

[ROF]

Doesn't the fact that others, including myself, can burn without problems using Nero imply that Nero is not at fault? It is either your setup or your discs.

It can also be one of those less than legitimate copies. I had to repair a machine around christmas time that had serious issues with it's DVD burner. It turned out that the DVD burner was not at fault. Although it did default to PIO mode, the cause was the use of a less than legitimate copy of Nero the person downloaded from one of those P2P networks. This was a Nero 6.6 Ultra Edition version.

[RLT69]

as I stated in my first post, I want to move on, but I am worried about compatibility and reliability

1. Are you having problems burning Data DVDs with Nero as well? From your posts it seems the only problem you are having is burning one image file. Is it just the one image? Have you tried other images? Has this image worked with a previous version of Nero?

If Nero chokes on that specific image file than it's something with that image file.

2. What is the rated speed of the media you are using? When you burn with Imburn, what speed is the program burning at? What speed is Nero burning at? You may have a problem with Nero burning faster than the rated media can sustain. For example you have 8x media but Nero attempts to burn at 16x. Why? Because some burners can do that. Manually set the burn speed to the rated speed of the media. You may also want to try a slower setting as well.

3. FYI. Make sure you have anti-virus software turned off when burning.

4. Are doing other tasks when you are burning? What other programs are running? What are system resources like? Is your laptop plugged into an outlet or are you running on battery?

5. You might want to go into the Power Options Control Panel and change the Power Scheme to "Always On." The reason being is that the other settings throttle back the processor speed to conserve the battery. The processor should throttle up when under load but your system might not be doing that.

6. Lastly what OS are you using? XP SP2? What version of Nero? Do you have the latest updates? Nero 6 would not run under XP SP2 unless you had the latest update. With the latest update it ran fine.

You may need to break out of the mentality of one size fits all. There are going to be times when one program will fail you for one reason or another but another program will work just fine. It happens. That's why alot of use have more than one burning/encoding/ripping/authoring program. One size does not fit all.

[ecos]

first, my nero copy is legit ofcourse

as I stated in my first post, I want to move on, but I am worried about compatibility and reliability

1. Are you having problems burning Data DVDs with Nero as well? From your posts it seems the only problem you are having is burning one image file. Is it just the one image? Have you tried other images? Has this image worked with a previous version of Nero?

from my posts it seems that an example of the failure was the image that failed with nero and succeed with imgburn, I never mentioned this image was the only
yes, the failure can occur in any kind of files/images as well
no, I never tried it with previous nero version, I always use the latest

If Nero chokes on that specific image file than it's something with that image file.

how come then imgburn be able to burn it? even something like this happens, its nero's fault
anyway, as I said above it may happen with any file (eg a list of pdf files)

2. What is the rated speed of the media you are using? When you burn with Imburn, what speed is the program burning at? What speed is Nero burning at? You may have a problem with Nero burning faster than the rated media can sustain. For example you have 8x media but Nero attempts to burn at 16x. Why? Because some burners can do that. Manually set the burn speed to the rated speed of the media. You may also want to try a slower setting as well.

I always leave the speed intact, both in nero and imgburn, in most cases its 8x afair
why should nero attempt to burn at 16x an 8x media anyway ? nero shouldnt exceed speed limit without me wanting to (afaic nero doesnt do it)
moreover, burning an 8x media at 4x is a failure indeed

3. FYI. Make sure you have anti-virus software turned off when burning.
it is

4. Are doing other tasks when you are burning? What other programs are running? What are system resources like? Is your laptop plugged into an outlet or are you running on battery?

ofcourse I do other tasks! I dont consider burning a dvd such a sys resource hog! I mainly run my download manager and internet browser
system resources are about >30%, but system responsiveness is extremely low
my laptop runs plugged

5. You might want to go into the Power Options Control Panel and change the Power Scheme to "Always On." The reason being is that the other settings throttle back the processor speed to conserve the battery. The processor should throttle up when under load but your system might not be doing that.

it is always on, when plugged

6. Lastly what OS are you using? XP SP2? What version of Nero? Do you have the latest updates? Nero 6 would not run under XP SP2 unless you had the latest update. With the latest update it ran fine.

my OS is XP Pro SP2, nero is the latest version, 7.07 afair

You may need to break out of the mentality of one size fits all. There are going to be times when one program will fail you for one reason or another but another program will work just fine. It happens. That's why alot of use have more than one burning/encoding/ripping/authoring program. One size does not fit all.

ok, I agree in most of the cases, but backing up data is too crucial to allow mistakes, moreover if these mistakes are relatively not very rare and the user is not notified of them
dvd decrypter surprisingly never gave me bad results

[smearbrick1]

Just because Nero 7 is the latest, does not mean it's going to be all fluffy kittens and happy puppies. Most of the time, the newest edition is not better than the previous edition after it has all of it's update patches applied. Case and point: Nero 5.5 was a much more stable piece of software after it's final updates than Nero 6 was when it was first released. I waited several months before upgrading to Nero 6.

[ROF]

Nero 7 also had issues post release. How long did it take before the first patch was released? I know it wasn't long afterwards.

[Morse2]

Bad joke alert:

"Nero is dead, any alternatives?" Well you could try Galba 1.0 but to avoid going through mandatory upgrades in the same year to Otho 1.0 and Vitellius 1.0, I'd future proof with Vespasian so you didn't have to keep upgrading so often.

Sorry for the history nerd humor there - joke mode = "off".

Seriously, have you looked at other issues in your system? I've often gotten disgusted with Nero and discovered that it's either a bug in that particular release or a conflict with other software (disk imaging your OS is a godsend there - you can use your old image to "wayback" the OS to a point prior to the new software installation/Windows patch/whatever that's messing things up).

I usually use CCleaner and EasyCleaner (both freeware registry cleaners) pretty heavily to clean up the bad registry entries left by older programs that have since been uninstalled. When you installed your current copy of Nero, did you do a general "tidy up" of the system first (including deleting any old Nero folders left lying about)?

I've found that Nero 6.6.0.13 is about the last 'stable' release on my AMD64 systems - later than that and weird 'issues' start to crop up (note that these are all fully licensed copies that each has it's own serial # bought from either a legit retailer or Ahead Software....). NVE is similar, with 3.1.0.7 being my preferred version - older = better IME, with new releases adding nifty bells and whistles at the expense of functionality and bugginess.

ROF could have a point though - I have read rumours (for whatever they're worth) that Ahead Software has been known to "cripple" serial numbers that are being abused online in more recent "updates", so if you're unlucky enough to have a serial number that was coincidentally hit by a keygen program then posted on a warez site, you might just need to go back to your original install CD's version (which will certainly allow you to use the serial number that came with it!). Just a theory there, though.

Good luck on it!
Morse

[Dv8ted2]

Just because Nero 7 is the latest, does not mean it's going to be all fluffy kittens and happy puppies.

Noone said it would be, but Ahead cannot possibly test their software on every computer configuration. With that being said, the fact that many, including myself use the software without any problems means that the software itself is not the problem.

[Supreme2k]

What I did was invest in a hard drive and usb/firewire case for data backups.

For disc related, I iso the data then use imgburn.

Music CDs? I rip only. Too many digital music players floating around this house.

[SatStorm]

I use mostly nero 5.5 for my burns. Some times, I might use nero 6.0

ImgBurn is a great alternative

[MOVIEGEEK]

Bad joke alert:

"Nero is dead, any alternatives?" Well you could try Galba 1.0 but to avoid going through mandatory upgrades in the same year to Otho 1.0 and Vitellius 1.0, I'd future proof with Vespasian so you didn't have to keep upgrading so often.

Sorry for the history nerd humor there - joke mode = "off".

Caligula 1.0 was bad until the update.

[ecos]

For disc related, I iso the data then use imgburn.

is there any fst and accurate way to automate iso creation and then feed it to imgburn ?

[VegasBud]

is there any fast and accurate way to automate iso creation and then feed it to imgburn?

For data: Folder2Iso
For dvd-video: ImgTool Classic (make sure it's the "Classic")
For dvd-video dl: PgcEdit

All three create an iso and then open ImgBurn to do the actual burn. I've also used all three for quite some time, with no problems at all.

[ecos]

damn

unfortunatelly folder2iso isnt reliable at all imo

[VegasBud]

Out of curiousity, what problem(s) have you had with Folder2Iso? I haven't had a single problem in more than a year (many, many data disks), and the only problems I've heard of come when people mistakenly try to use it to make a dvd-video disk, or in the use of really long filenames.

[laspis59]

damn

unfortunatelly folder2iso isnt reliable at all imo

VegasBud is right,Folder2Iso is a great tool for this.I haven't had any problems with it at all.

You need IMGTool Classic for DVD-Video as to create the UDF 1.02 in the image.

[lordsmurf]

One workaround I've used is Nero 5.5 as an image recorder, then use the freeware NRG2ISO, and then burn that ISO with your favorite freeware ISO software.

Not really had too many issues with that, for data. Doesn't want to work for DVD-Video though, not the few times I tried. May have been user error, not really sure.

[VegasBud]

Correction:
When Folder2Iso is done creating the iso, it doesn't automatically open ImgBurn and proceed with the burning. I know this because I just got done sitting at the computer looking at the "OK - Done" messagebox Folder2Iso put up. I had to open Imgburn manually. ImgTool Classic and PgcEdit do open ImgBurn automatically, just not Folder2Iso.

Also, when I was at the ImgBurn forum, I read that LighningUK! is currently working on upgrading ImgBurn so it will accept data files, or dvd-video structures directly, without using some other application to generate an iso first. There wasn't any timeline on when it might be available, but that's some of the best news I've heard in a long time.

[fritzi93]

Bad joke alert:

"Nero is dead, any alternatives?" Well you could try Galba 1.0 but to avoid going through mandatory upgrades in the same year to Otho 1.0 and Vitellius 1.0, I'd future proof with Vespasian so you didn't have to keep upgrading so often.

Sorry for the history nerd humor there - joke mode = "off".

Caligula 1.0 was bad until the update.

Heh, you mean uninstall. :P Unfortunately, it had corrupted some system files.
There was a serious uninstall issue with Nero 1.0, it seems the third-party Praetorian Install/Uninstall program could not locate the Nero uninstall files, as Nero 1.0 unexpectedly (manually) uninstalled itself. Of course, Galba, Otho and Vitellius could not coexist without causing severe system instability.

Installation of the Flavian series required a thorough registry clean. Vespasian 1.0 was soon followed by the Titus 1.0 upgrade, then Domitian 1.0. Most people thought the latter upgrade was NOT worthwhile. :P

[smearbrick1]

Just because Nero 7 is the latest, does not mean it's going to be all fluffy kittens and happy puppies.

Noone said it would be, but Ahead cannot possibly test their software on every computer configuration. With that being said, the fact that many, including myself use the software without any problems means that the software itself is not the problem.

I know this is 3 days late, but in my message I wasn't putting down the functionality of Nero. I was trying to debunk the myth that the original poster seems to be buying into that states just because a total revision of a piece of software has been released, it must be better than the previous revision. Now, the OP may not have stated this clearly, but this is what I read in.

If you notice, in my previous posts, I indicate that I am a huge Nero fan, and I never stated that I expected Ahead to test their software on every computer configuration.

I tested software, I know what goes into it. I have sympathy for those folks.

Next time, don't quote me out of context.