Question on DC10 plus capture card

[Buck9419]

I found someone closing these cards out of their stock for $25.99 so I picked one up. Anyone know why I see horizontal lines in areas of motion in the captured video? These lines are in the moving object and it looks like it's using only a portion of the lines to makeup the moving object's image. I noticed it in a moving hand. I was using the included software to capture the video.



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[steve154]

Where in the hell did you find it for $29.99?

[Buck9419]

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Where in the hell did you find it for $29.99?
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Office Depot near me had them on clearance for $25.99

[bogey2000]

I have the MiroVideo DC10. Is this the same card that you are referring to? If so, I paid $340 for it in 1996.

Bogey2000

[Buck9419]

I tried using virtualdub and there wasn't any difference until I changed some settings. It seems to have improved the problem some. I noticed I don't see the problem in the video being played as I capture it in virtualdub. I did see it in the software that came with the card. Perhaps it's a software settings problem?

[bertmartin]

Buck9419
I have the DC10plus card and have not noticed the lines you mentioned. You can get the latest version (1.06) of the software at http://www.pinnaclesys.com/support/display.asp?ProductID=307&SubDocTypesID=67
This allows you to capture multiple 2G files and improves audio sync. You may be better off using Virtualdub, however. What were the setting you changed? I may try Virtualdub.
Also don't upgrade to Studio 7 software. It has lots of bugs and I couldn't get it to work on my computer. I am going back to ver 1.06

[Buck9419]

bertmartin,
I was using the 1.06 version of the software. I didn't try the older version that came with the card. I don't remember off hand what I changed in Virtualdub. I'm at work now. Just try changing a few things that sounded like they may help. I had the same thing in virtualdub but not as bad and it seemed to get alittle better after I made a few changes. Still I don't think I should be getting these lines which appear at the edges of moving objects and seem to be making up the small moving objects. I sent a help request to Pinnacle about it.

I would be interested to know what settings you use to capture your video.

I am not using my most powerful machine since it has XP on it and there aren't drivers for XP yet. I'm using a PII600 with 256 meg and a TNT2 video card. I have been wondering if it has something to do with the hardware in the machine. The DC10 doesn't seems to use alot of processing power. I think Virtualdub show's how much it was using while I captured.

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[Buck9419]

Ok, If I use VirtualDub I don't see this problem on the screen while while monitoring the capture. I do see it in the file. I also see it on the screen while monitoring the capture using the Pinnacle software. Also tried another card so it's not the card. I guessing software settings or something about the machine. Anyone know what it is and how to solve it? You see lines making up the moving part. Like the moving image didn't get all the lines trace if it was on a tv. Watched the avi file on another machine that's faster and has a better video card. On this machine I see like jagged edges on things in the video. The table edge looks like you took a saw and cut grooves in it's edge. I'm stumped.

[bertmartin]

Here are my settings:
I use best for capture (604x464), I could never get any higher setting here. I haven't used Virtualdub for capture since the built-in capture works ok for me.
Always use the StudioDC10plus M-JPEG(16) codex
Do your transistions and sound editing.
Output movie to AVI file using latest Indeo video codex.
Encode with TMPEGEnc and burn CD.
Sounds like you may have a camera problem. (dirty heads?) Are you playing the video with the same camera it was made on? Are these videos old or have they been played a lot? It may just be wear on the tapes.
Do you have high quality gold plated cables going to DC10+?
Do you get many dropped frames. I usually get a few dropped frames but not a lot. I have a PIII 500 with a dedicated hard drive (ATA-66) for capture.

Just a few thoughts.

[Buck9419]

bertmartin,

The video coming out of the camera off the tape looks fine. The video cable is gold plated. I have viewed it on the camera and TV. I have used both svhs input and composite with the same results. I am begining to wonder if it's some conflict with other hardware in the machine. My other machine has xp on it so can't try it there yet. Very strange. But I appreciate your settings information. Does answer my question as to what format to use before encoding. New at this digital/vcd stuff.

[bbb]

I think those are interlaced lines because TV sources are interlaced.

Just blur, blend deinterlace, or inverse telecine to get rid of them.

[bertmartin]

Here is a link from Pinnacle on Studio 7 but some of the settings may give you some ideas.
http://www.pinnaclesys.com/supportfiles/top_10_problems_DV7.rtf

Also, I suggest you download a program call Enditall from the PCMag site or other places. Just do a search with Google. Run this utility before starting the Studio program and it will shut down all non-essential background processses. You could play with virtual memory and hardware acceleration but try Enditall approach first.

Bert

[EricB]

These are interlace lines which you will see on any of the larger frame size captures. If you try a lower resolution, I think you will see them disappear. Also, take a captured file and send it back out to videotape, voila, no lines.

You need to de-interlace the video if your target is mpg1/VCD. If you are doing SVCD / DVD, then the source and target can be interlaced, and again you won't see the lines.

[Buck9419]

I'll check out your suggestions and see if that's it.