P4 dual core or AMD 64bit dual core for Premiere 2?

[jtoolman2000]

I am looking to but a new machine pretty soon but need to know what is more suitable for the new Adobe video apps.

I know that athalons tend to favor gaming and Intels favor video and encoding. But will I notice the diference in actual practice.

Any imput would be greatly apreciated.

[edDV]

Get the AMD FX series with SSE2 or the Intel P4/Xeon. PPro-v2 wants SSE2 per system requirements.

http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/systemreqs.html

"Intel® Pentium® 4 1.4GHz processor for DV (Pentium 4 3.4GHz processor for HDV; dual Intel Xeon™ 2.8GHz processors for HD; SSE2-enabled processor required for AMD systems)"

[jagabo]

All the dual core AMD processors support SSE2.

You probably shouldn't buy an AMD socket 939 processor now -- AMD just introduced their new socket AM2 processors.

If you're not in a hurry you should wait a few months to see how the new Intel Core 2 Duo processors will run. All indications are they will be faster than AMD's dual core processors and consume less power. Of course, they'll probably be hard to get at first too.

[jtoolman2000]

I will not be doing this till the end of the year. So by then we will see what is the better choice.

I hope Adobe doesn't decide to do yet another major update. I really should have waited and not purchased the video production suite so tham fast. I have been able to run it on my present P4 machine but it really needs more horse power in all aspects to run these progs.

Thanks

[ROF]

I will not be doing this till the end of the year. So by then we will see what is the better choice.

Good idea. If people can wait that is exactly what I am recommending to my customers. Do not buy now. It's summertime in most places. Go outside enjoy the weather and come fall when you are back indoors and start using your computer more that will be a good time to purchase. As has been said, AMD just introduced their newest socket and processors(the AM2). No doubt Intel will have to answer that calling. By the time it's purchase time(I'd wait until at least October after the kids go back to school when parts are cheaper) both these processor companies should have new offering, reduced the prices of their other lines, and they will once again be thinking about the next socket/processor to introduce into the marketplace.

Now is not a good time to build or buy a PC unless you absolutely need to.

[lordsmurf]

Now is not a good time to build or buy a PC unless you absolutely need to.

Yeah. I think end-of-year prices are often better too (not "always", but "often"). Not to mention you can pick up "old" tech cheaply after newer stuff is out. Yet another factor to consider.

[ROF]

Now is not a good time to build or buy a PC unless you absolutely need to.

Yeah. I think end-of-year prices are often better too (not "always", but "often"). Not to mention you can pick up "old" tech cheaply after newer stuff is out. Yet another factor to consider.

In my purchasing opinion there are actually two times a year when you can maximize your PC parts buying experience in america.

1) Right after the kids go back to school in late Septemeber or October

and

2) After the American Holiday season ends at the end of January or beginning of February.

As would be convenient those are also the times when you see travelling computer shows appearing. My opinion is that wholesalers have dumped their inventory on people like me and others who resell products to other customers during this time so the wholesalers can stock up on new products.

[edDV]

I will not be doing this till the end of the year. So by then we will see what is the better choice.

I hope Adobe doesn't decide to do yet another major update. I really should have waited and not purchased the video production suite so tham fast. I have been able to run it on my present P4 machine but it really needs more horse power in all aspects to run these progs.

Thanks

I looked at Premiere Pro v2 and decided my hardware isn't adequate. It can wait for my next hardware upgrade later in the year.

[lenti_75]

Now is not a good time to build or buy a PC unless you absolutely need to.

Yeah. I think end-of-year prices are often better too (not "always", but "often"). Not to mention you can pick up "old" tech cheaply after newer stuff is out. Yet another factor to consider.

personally I would get an AMD, I have Intel now and I hate it....

it's never a good time to buy....always it's something new, when the new stuff comes out, you dont't want the old one anymore...

it's just when you want to do it, waiting for prices and new technology is crap, this is an endless chase...

[jagabo]

it's never a good time to buy....always it's something new, when the new stuff comes out, you dont't want the old one anymore...

Yes, but now is an especially bad time as both AMD and Intel are introducing new sockets. If you buy a motherboard with the old socket 939 (AMD) or 775 (Intel) you won't be able to use the new/faster/lower-power processors that will be introduced over the next few years.

[EAO]

it's never a good time to buy....always it's something new, when the new stuff comes out, you dont't want the old one anymore...

Yes, but now is an especially bad time as both AMD and Intel are introducing new sockets. If you buy a motherboard with the old socket 939 (AMD) or 775 (Intel) you won't be able to use the new/faster/lower-power processors that will be introduced over the next few years.

Chances are in a couple of years there will be another new socket coming out again, so the time to buy is when you need it.

And - if you buy highend - expect whatever you buy to only be the greatest for a month or so.

That said socket 939 vs socket 940. Don't bother waiting. Difference is negligible.
The Intel Conroe... that's a different story. Much faster than the previous Intel. But I don't believe there are any real comparitive benchmarks out there yet. I'd like to see it's pricepoint and compare it to the AMD Opteron's (165 and 170).
If AMD can shrink the die of the socket 939 and 940 to 65nm then socket 939 has more future headroom to go.
And - of course - factor in if you intend to overclock.

[Sam Ontario]

I am looking to but a new machine pretty soon but need to know what is more suitable for the new Adobe video apps.

I know that athalons tend to favor gaming and Intels favor video and encoding. But will I notice the diference in actual practice.

Any imput would be greatly apreciated.

Don't jump yet. Wait a bit and get Conroe for desktop or Merom for laptop. Believe me, they are great and will beat any FX at a low price. Many testings of engineering samples of conroe show the performance is really great. See below link some indications:

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1058716

[lenti_75]

don't worry, AMD is not standing still.

I bet they already have something better....they just wait the right moment.

[edDV]

don't worry, AMD is not standing still.

I bet they already have something better....they just wait the right moment.

I hope neither is standing still. May the best geek team win.
I have $ in the bank waiting to be spent.

[CrayonEater]

The way I look at it is this: Is the extra time you're going to spend on your slower machine worth more than the money you'll save if you wait? I can tell you in energy bills alone, I'll save far more money if I buy an 805 or 820 system now rather than get a few bucks off a new system in the fall. But if you can wait then there is nothing wrong with saving a little dough down the road.

[lordsmurf]

Some good holiday sales this weekend, actually. Fry's has some stuff on.

[EAO]

don't worry, AMD is not standing still.

I bet they already have something better....they just wait the right moment.

Yes Conroe will be better than the Opteron's. It's about time Intel came out with a cpu to compete against the A64 / Opteron run. It's been over a year since AMD took over most of the processing apps. But it will not last

I went looking and saw the quad core 65nm Rev G die cpu on the AMD roadmap. I think it's out between Dec 06 and 1st quarter 07. It will rip processing speed crown out of the Conroe.

But then... I'm sure Intel will attempt to respond some time in late 2007.

So you see... it never ends. Get your new system / cpu when you find you have a need for an increase.

If I were building now I'd look at Conroe.

But by year end I would suspect the new AMD chips to be at least 20% faster than the fastest current Conroe and with much greater overclocking headroom...and probably cheaper than what the Conroe is going for now.

[ahhaa]

You might ask Adobe directly- what has their software been optimized for/developed on?
Also, there is something to be said for machines that don't make you part of the R&D department. If you've done a 4 hour stint setting something up, you don't want some unFAQ'd quirk on a just-hatched device screwing things up.

[jagabo]

I went looking and saw the quad core 65nm Rev G die cpu on the AMD roadmap. I think it's out between Dec 06 and 1st quarter 07. It will rip processing speed crown out of the Conroe.

But then... I'm sure Intel will attempt to respond some time in late 2007.

The current rumor is Intel's quad core CPUs will arrive Q1 07 too.

http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2006/03/28/intel_kentsfield_quadcore_release/