OGM to DVD Help!!!!!

[carbfrze]

OK, i'm fairly new to the whole conversion scene. I'm trying to convert some .OGM files i have over to DVD, the problem is they all have two audio streams plus Subtitles. I've figured out how to remove the subtitles with a Filter i downloaded for VirtualDubMod. I've read a bunch of the threads but just can't get things to work. Here's what happens.
1. I open the file with VirtualDubMod
2. I use the subtitle remover utility
3. I then i go in and disable the first audio stream
4. Then when i try to preview the video i get this error message: An out-of-bounds memory access (access violation) occurred in module 'VirtualDubMod'......while running thread "Dub-I/O" (thread.cpp:120). and VirtualDubMod shuts down!
Am i doing something wrong? I'm basically trying to set get everything to a point where i have English Audio (which is the secondary stream) and no Subtitles on the final video.
Please help!!!!
And any steps i need to do after this would be appreciated also...
Thanks

[redwudz]

Try doing it without previewing in VDM would be the first thing I would try. You might want to save out the audio as a WAV file also. Then save out the video in direct stream format. You can take the WAV and run it through ffmpeggui and convert it to AC3 and put it back in during authoring. The video is probably Xvid or similar.

[carbfrze]

OK, i'm no longer getting the fatal error causing VDM to shut down. But now when i try to use the Save Wav feature on the English audio channel i'm getting the following error message.

[carbfrze]

sorry i didn't complete the message above. When i click on Demux it will only let me save the file as an .OGG file.

[Baldrick]

demux to ogg and then use a ogg to wav converter like dBpowerAMP

[Cobra]

OggDropXPd is a dead easy-to-use Ogg --> WAV converter - drag and drop onto the tiny window and it does the rest. It is also freeware, and does not need to be installed (standalone application).

[carbfrze]

Hey thanks to everyone for the help. I figured out that i have BeSweetGUI and BeLight on my computer and saw that i convert from OGG to WAV using those programs. I've been using those for a while for regular conversion but i didn't realize that it supported the OGG format. Anywho, thanks to everyone for the help. And am i correct in saying that from this point i just use TMPGEnc Xpress to recombine the AVI and the WAV files and then just burn the DVD form there?
thanks again for all the help

[Cobra]

You use TMPGEnc to encode the AVI file to an MPEG file (that is your video source), using your WAV file as an audio source.

After you have done that, you'll need to "author" your DVD - you cannot burn a .MPG file directly to DVD (it's never simple, is it?) so you must convert that to the right kind of files to go on your DVD. Try TMPGEnc DVD Author - that's very user-friendly. It even has a DVD writing tool built-in. Once it has finished authoring your DVD, it will pop up a dialogue box telling you that it is done - click "Open DVD writing tool" and you'll be away!

Good luck, and if you have any more questions just post up!

Cobra

[carbfrze]

I wanted to thank everyone for their help with this. I finally got everything working and got my movie burnt to DVD. It plays good in my stand-a-lone DVD player, but there is one problem. And i have noticed this on some of the other movies that i have burnt. I notice on smooth scrolling scenes or scenes where there is alot of action it is choppy. It is not really bad but once you notice it, you notice it everytime you see a long scrolling (i.e. camera scrolls from right to left in a smooth sequence) scene. I'm pretty sure this has to do with the framerate somehow being changed during one of my conversion processes. The original AVI file has the following FPS 23.97 and the Bitrate is 1000 kb/s. If anyone has any idea of how i can remedy this that would be great.
BTW, here are the steps i used for the conversion:
1. I used Virtualdubmod to separate the video and audio streams
2. I used Oggdropxpd to change the audio from OGG to WAV
3. I used TMPGEnc Xpress to recombine the Wav and AVI files
4. I used TMPGEnc DVD Author to create the VOB files and burnt them to a DVD+R

Any help would be appreciated!!

[whitejremiah]

not sure about the scrolling problem, however, you may want to change your authoring program so you can actually use the subs and both audio tracks.....(unless this has changed since i used TDA last) i dont think it supports subs or multiple audio....a guess though about the scrolling and such, is the burning program/burning speed your using...it's best to drop the speed a little bit from the max as this can (from my experiance anyhow) cause some problems with CERTAIN dvd players....

[carbfrze]

Thanks for the reply... Any suggestion on another authoring tool? I basically need one that i can burn .OGG files with. That would get rid of the majority of the work i'm having to do. Also as far as the scrolling is, i guess a better word would be choppy. I jumps just a little bit. It's not that bad but when you first see it in the movie of course you see it all the time then. And it lasts throughout the movie....

[carbfrze]

I also checked and it is choppy in the actual file. I just wanted to make sure that it wasn't my standalone DVD player. But since it is showing up in the actual VOB file then I imagine it is something in the conversion process. I did double check the AVI that i extracted out of the OGG file via VirtualDubMod and it looks fine. No choppiness in the movie at all. So I checked the MPG file that was created in TMPGEnc Xpress and it is choppy. So something in that program must be off. I'm using TMPGEnc Xpress to recombine the AVI and the WAV files to convert it over to MPG so I can burn it. Any suggestions?

[Abond]

This probably is pulldown error in some sense. If I remember corectly TMPGEnc Xpress was not good with 23.976 fps sources.
The way to make it correctly is to encode the avi to 23.976 fps mpg and then to apply 23.976->29.97 pulldown.

[carbfrze]

Is the 23.976->29.97 pulldown an option in TMPGEnc Xpress or is there a better tool out there to get this done? And if it is an option on TXpress do you know where i do this? On the opening screen there is a MPEG Tools button below is a screenshot of that. If this is where i can convert it, which option do I chose in the menu here? This is getting very frustrating and I appreciate all the help everyone has been giving me...

[Abond]

Is the 23.976->29.97 pulldown an option in TMPGEnc Xpress or is there a better tool out there to get this done?

I don't know TMPGEnc Xpress, but TMPGEnc has it. Personally I prefer to apply pulldown with DGPulldown after encoding .

And if it is an option on TXpress do you know where i do this?

In TMPGEnc it is an encoding option - frame rate of the output. It is called "3:2 pulldown during playback"

If this is where i can convert it, which option do I chose in the menu here?

As I said, it is an encoding option, not multiplexing option. Multiplexing is just combining video and audio in a way to meet some requirements, as listed in the menu you are showing.
You can check the original (avi) and the Xpress output (mpg) for the number of frames. Load them in VDubMod and look file->file information. If the frame count is the same then pulldown was applied by Xpress (and the chopiness is due to something else). If mpg has more frames than avi then Xpress has introduced duplicates - so it is choppy at playback.