Problem playing DL DVD's on my HD-DVD

[digitalfreaknyc]

Question:

My new Toshiba HD-DVD player has zero problems playing "normal" copies of DVD's (from other regions) burned to dual-layer.

However, when I put in one that was authored by myself on DVD-lab, it almost always (except for one disc) seems to stutter right at the beginning of both layers. It will play for a second and then stop.

Any idea what might cause this? I've tried two different types of media. I'm thinking maybe if I burned at a slower speed? Can Nero still allow you to burn at a slower speed? Or should I try to use a different program to burn? Any ideas?

I obviously got it to work with one disc that I've authored and I'm not sure why that one works fine but the others not. And again, any that are professionally authored work fine. No problems.

[Baldrick]

tried any other authoring tool?

[jman98]

It might also be important to state whether you are making +R or -R DL discs. They handle the layer break in completely different ways. My Philips DVP-642 does not like DVD -R DL discs and has had problems with every one of them. It works fine with +R DL discs. Personally, I think DVD -R DL is fairly bogus. +R DL has a much more logical way of dealing with the layer break. For all I know, it could be a DVD-Lab issue with -R DL or +R DL. I'm not a DVD-Lab user, but I have a vague memory that I might have seen a thread in another forum here about DL authoring issues with DVD-Lab. You might take a look and see if you can find anything along those lines.

[Krispy Kritter]

Nero is also known to have a DL burning issue.

[digitalfreaknyc]

I've actually used both -r and +r dl discs. it happened with both. And like i said...if i've made a copy of an "official" dvd, it's fine. But it does work fine on a couple of my own home-made authored DL discs...but no idea what/if I did anything differently with those two.

[digitalfreaknyc]

ok...realized that it has nothing to do with DVD-Lab or the discs.

It's only happening on discs I've personally authored with DVD-lab...BUT...only those discs where I've re-encoded the video with TMPGenc. I'm wondering what I could be doing wrong in the re-encoding that would make the discs react this way. Any ideas? Would GOP problems do this?

[mazinz]

what are you using to burn the disc? This can be very helpful. If you use nero it does not set a proper layer break flag and this can be causing your issue.

In my case I take my dl folder and then make an iso file in ultraiso. I MAKE SURE that it has the iso properties as udf. I then burn with the dvd decrypter. I have not had an issue yet.

Burning previous dl discs with nero caused problems like yours as well as burning the dl disc with ulead dvd workshop 2.

So far the newer sonic recordnow has been very good in burning dl disc, as it sets in a proper layer break flag. The only issue is if you want the version of the software, where you can just drop in your folders, that version coast around 70 plus. Otherwise you will have to make an iso file first and then burn with recordnow

[digitalfreaknyc]

No. it's not an issue with burning DL's in general. It's only those that I've now re-encoded with TMPGenc. I'm taking a bunch of PAL discs and making them NTSC and those are the only ones I'm having a problem with when burning to DL.
Another disc, I had made a standard definition DVD from an HD master. Again, I re-encoded through TMPGenc and still had a problem. Not sure why this is.

All the other ones that I've simply copied OR ones that use material that hasn't been re-encoded are fine.

Is it possible that I'm doing something wrong with the encoding that it would lead to something like this ONLY happening when I re-encode with TMPGenc? The file plays back fine on my PC and the DVD does as well. But for some reason, the player just doesn't like the ones that are re-encoded. There has to be a reason for it.

[digitalfreaknyc]

So...

I took the files that DVD-Lab created and used them with TMPGenc DVD author. I authored a new DVD (for kicks) with no menu.

Guess what? It works.

But the question remains: what is DVD-lab doing that it would make it impossible for it to burn properly? There has to be something screwy happening during the authoring stage.

I feel that this, perhaps, is now in the wrong forum. Any mods want to move it and possibly change the subject line?

[digitalfreaknyc]

Eeeek. I think I just found my answer.

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/archive/t188370.html

Have they seriously not fixed this yet???

I'm going to try and just encode without the 3:2 pulldown and do it later. Hopefully that will solve my problems.

[disturbed1]

Eeeek. I think I just found my answer.

https://www.videohelp.com/forum/archive/t188370.html

Have they seriously not fixed this yet???

I'm going to try and just encode without the 3:2 pulldown and do it later. Hopefully that will solve my problems.

You have an audio/video sync issue also?

What you have stated in you other posts happens from the authoring program not placing the layer break information in the correct place. If it was an issue with the mpeg file or pulldown flags itself, you would (most likely) have an issue through out the entire disc, and not at the place where the layer switch should take place. Either way, it could be an issue with the pulldow flags. You can use a couple of different tools (pulldown.exe and bbtools come to mind) to strip the pulldown flags, then use another tool to re add them. This will save you from having to re-encode.

There are two ways to handle a layer switch PTP and OTP. Not sure if DVDLab has this option, it should, try to change this.

[digitalfreaknyc]

But DVD-Lab has ZERO problems with the layer change on any of the other discs I've made. It only happens on the discs where I've had to re-encode the material on it.

There is no sync issue. It's perfect.

I'm trying it again tonight having used another program to do the pulldown. If it doesn't work tonight, I'm not using DVD-lab any more for this type of project.

[digitalfreaknyc]

Worked. Absolutely no problems. Had to use DGpulldown but the resulting file gave me no problem with my machine.

Stupid DVD-lab.